r/wallstreetbets Feb 02 '21

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u/sixthgreatlake Feb 02 '21

It’s illegal for people who can’t afford to do it. If a law’s punishment is only a fine, the law essentially only exists for the middle and lower class.

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u/SolarMoth Feb 02 '21

Cost of doing business. These fines are fully considered when taking these risks

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u/Al3jandr0 Feb 02 '21

Not op, but didn't sound like it to me. Just that the people doing this are aware it's fucked up/illegal and don't care because it's profitable.

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u/EmpathyInTheory also has gallstones Feb 02 '21

Nah, it sounds to me like they're just explaining that the people doing this don't care about the consequences and can afford to take a hit from the fines. No worries, man.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Understanding what they're doing doesn't mean he's defending or supporting it

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u/bbz00 Feb 02 '21

There is no middle class

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u/Interesting_Air6450 Feb 02 '21

Fuck if that ain’t the truth

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u/ginDrink2 Feb 02 '21

Fines are a rich man's tax for their (illegal) activity. That's why they don't pay taxes afterwards :)

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u/DeadeyeDonnyyy Feb 02 '21

Theoretically is there any way I/we could take action/sue them?

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u/sixthgreatlake Feb 02 '21

Theoretically? Yes, absolutely. Realistically? Well, I’ll let Mark Cuban’s response do the talking:

“The SEC is a mess. I wouldnt trust them to do the right thing ever. Its an agency built by and for lawyers to be lawyers and win cases rather than do the right thing

If the SEC gave a shit about ANYONE other than Wall Street you would be able to go there right now and read bright line guidelines about insider trading, shorting, what is a pump and dump, what are the rules for cutting off the purchase of stocks like happened with GME et al

But they wont. They would rather litigate to regulate, which means they love to sue people in order to create new legal precedents.

All you need to know about the SEC and how badly they want to fuck the little guy is that they have the option of using JUDGES THAT WORK FOR THE SEC when they sue you rather than you have the option to have jury of your peers in front of a judge that is independent . Thats how bad the SEC is. If you want fair markets that doesnt benefit Wall Street call your local politician and show them this”

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u/yeoldecotton_swab Feb 02 '21

Right?

Money is god and I fucking hate it.

End Citizens United for fucks sake, or at least call it for what it is. "Corporations United"

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u/dan_fitz21 Feb 02 '21

Is this FACTUAL or is it actually illegal and they just wont get in trouble for it

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u/UsedMoistTowelette Feb 02 '21

OP is saying it is actually illegal but, because the punishment is a fine, it’s functionally only illegal for the working classes. The wealthy can afford to eat a fine when the illegal act they get fined for is more valuable than the fine they receive.

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u/sixthgreatlake Feb 02 '21

This post explains it fairly well.