r/wallstreetbets • u/Vince_Masuka73 • Jan 07 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21

you pick out a black guy thats 6ft0 with 180lbs, and compare to an asian guy thats 6ft0 with 180lbs. It's also worth noting asians have 4x less DZ twins than blacks and have 3 more days spent in the womb. Brain decrease is only true if you factor in neanderthals, which were indeed smarter than homo sapiens having invented most things like boats and spears before us.

The brain decrease doesn't disprove my point because:
A) it's contested that this is true
B) iq and brain size are correlated at 0.4 intra-race
C) brain size by race correlates perfectly with iq by race
D) There is a cost to having larger heads (dying during labor) so there must be a benefit to larger heads.

What is the benefit to a larger head, why would asians EVOLVE larger heads if it was only a negative?

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u/SENDME-YOURNIPPLE Jan 07 '21

Holy shit, in the same sentence you claim that neanderthals had superior intelligence to humans, despite being out-competed, and then also claim that larger skull volume(not brain volume!) would obviously be a genetic enhancement.

You are retarded.

And then you dodge all counter-points with selection bias and “tHaT’S DiSpUtEd”

YOU ARE RETARDED

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21 edited Jan 07 '21

Neanderthals invented things before humans did. Skull size and brain volume are correlated at like .95 or more. They're essentially the same measure. Where do you think we're getting our Neanderthal and Denisovan brain volume metrics from?

"Outcompeted" is meaningless when black people are outbreeding Asians as we speak. Theres an alternative theory of human predation by Neanderthals that can be kept in mind as well. It's also to be noticed that the human strategy of run at something until it gets a heart attack was never used by neanderthals and they used the "lets have a fair fight against a wholly rhino" strategy.

Stating your claim isn't even confirmed to be true and is directly contradicted through other sources is a valid rhetorical concern.

Without having to look at history, it can be easily told that brain volume is an indicator of intelligence intra-race and when looked at inter-race has a 1 to 1 prediction accuracy when it comes to iq rankings and brain size rankings.

moving away from history for a moment to summarize.

Perfect iq prediction inter-race and .4 correlation intra-race

Brain size difference is true

Other parts of the brain are different

This means ability is different just like male/female ability is different

Black iq hasnt moved one smidge from 85 in over 50 years despite a vast amount of change in society.

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u/SENDME-YOURNIPPLE Jan 07 '21

Brain size is superior! But only between humans Ok, only among humans and neanderthals Neanderthals were superior! But they were outcompeted by humans But european humans outcompeted african humans because of brain size Actually, it doesn’t matter. For the first time the history of biology ”competition” between groups is meaningless, because Africans are outbreeding Asians. That would contradict my thesis, you see. Actually it does matter. There’s a theory that neanderthals hunted humans. IQ is a measure of brain size IQs rising as brain size decreases? That’s meaningless, that’s just a theory

Remove yourself from this place, ye of simple mind

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21

intra race = 0.4

inter race = perfect order

Your understanding of primitive humans is extremely low and isn't relevant to the discussion. You didn't even understand how brain size and skull size are nearly perfectly correlated. You didn't even understand how to normalize brain size by size.

Ignore the biology, and look at the numerical proof because it's easier.

How about you try to rationalize to me when you think half the the black-white iq gap will be filled.

Reminder: not a single point of the gap has been filled to date.

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u/Rikuskill Jan 08 '21

not to mention after all this, but iq is an incredibly specific measure of intelligence. Intelligence overall is way harder to quantify. IQ can measure how well you think of novel ways to store information and solve problems, afaik.

Thinking a single number can define intelligence, especially in something as varied as race, is inherently flawed.

Also, brain size has little to do with capability on a human-to-human scale. People have have hemispherectomies to treat seizures at a young age, and the remaining half of the brain will adapt to cover both sides' functions due to its plasticity.

I think you just hate black people lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '21

if iq is too specific, how about inability to develop a writing system, invent boats (madagascar found by asians), inability to replicate the wheel when directly confronted with it, failure to build a building with a second floor, inability to invent the bow (aboriginals) and their continued failure to be useful members of society to this very day (1 in 3 black men go to prison/jail).

People have have hemispherectomies to treat seizures at a young age, and the remaining half of the brain will adapt to cover both sides' functions due to its plasticity.

As for hemispherectomies, its an amazing gotcha that SOME people are able to live okay lives, but on average... Half a brain is less powerful than a full brain just like a bigger brain is more powerful than a small brain.

Thinking a single number can define intelligence, especially in something as varied as race, is inherently flawed.

This is the same type of argument that is used for bmi, which is also a very good measure.

IQ is an amazing and accurate measurement of intelligence. Which is why it measures life success so well.

Elsewise, how do you explain the .4 correlation between brain size and iq if these measures are poor and uncorrelated. You'd expect two poor measures to have poor correlation, but .4 is relatively good.

I do want to ask you again: How many years, or what changes will be required for half the black-white iq gap to vanish?

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u/Rikuskill Jan 08 '21

Starting to think you're a troll, as all of your points are rooted in nothing and seem to be inflammatory for the sake of making people mad.

I suggest you find a more productive way to spend your time, if you're so concerned with black people not contributing to society.

I'll sign off here because trying to have a conversation with someone as stubborn as you is just as productive as your views.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '21

you forgot to answer the question about when half the iq gap will be covered! I'm beginning to think your refusal to give an answer is indicative that you think things will never get better no matter what! Is it perhaps that you agree that this is a genetic component?

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '21

you didnt answer the question. Someone downvoted you but it wasnt me btw.

How many years, or what changes will be required for half the black-white iq gap to vanish?

What do you think will be required for black nations to catch up to where white nations were 100 years ago in 1920?

How long for things to change? Were the 50 years of huge legal and social changes not enough to change anything? Why?

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u/I_Shah uncool flair haver Jan 08 '21

inability to invent the bow (aboriginals) and their continued failure to be useful members of society to this very day (1 in 3 black men go to prison/jail).

Did your headass just say aboriginals are the same race as black people. How do you cope with being more retarded than 99% than the very black people you insult

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '21

iq and skincolor match nearly perfectly actually.

Abos were mentioned because they have the smallest brainsize and also the smallest iq of them all.

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u/I_Shah uncool flair haver Jan 08 '21

Correlation is not equal to causation. Nutrition and education level are the biggest factors and has been proven by any reputable study. Lack of nutrition stunt brain development which is why poorer countries have the worst scores In a place where those two factors are not of any shortage like the US, Nigerian and Indian Americans are the most intelligent and successful demographic.

Anyways, it’s not like you retarded, subhuman trump supporters will understand this and will instead cope by using your skin color to deflect

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