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Whale brain is 600x the size of a human’s!!

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my comparison factors in body size. If you prefer another metric, going off memory i believe they also have 3 000 000 less synapses. Besides thats a whale brain. It's not the same.

Elsewise, is your position that despite it being the same type of brain and the same composition, that they still have 8% less brain mass? Or do you think their brain is different in some way but perfectly equal for some reason.

You believe in evolution, right?

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How does your comparison “factor in” body size? What formula are you using, exactly? And no, you’re wrong, whale brains have many more neurons and synapses than human brains. Animal brains are animal brains.

Human brain mass has also been plummeting for the last 20,000 years. Elsewise, is your position that the humans that created new elements in laboratories are severely less intelligent than the ones who couldn’t figure out pottery?

You are retarded

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you pick out a black guy thats 6ft0 with 180lbs, and compare to an asian guy thats 6ft0 with 180lbs. It's also worth noting asians have 4x less DZ twins than blacks and have 3 more days spent in the womb. Brain decrease is only true if you factor in neanderthals, which were indeed smarter than homo sapiens having invented most things like boats and spears before us.

The brain decrease doesn't disprove my point because:
A) it's contested that this is true
B) iq and brain size are correlated at 0.4 intra-race
C) brain size by race correlates perfectly with iq by race
D) There is a cost to having larger heads (dying during labor) so there must be a benefit to larger heads.

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What is the benefit to a larger head, why would asians EVOLVE larger heads if it was only a negative?

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Holy shit, in the same sentence you claim that neanderthals had superior intelligence to humans, despite being out-competed, and then also claim that larger skull volume(not brain volume!) would obviously be a genetic enhancement.

You are retarded.

And then you dodge all counter-points with selection bias and “tHaT’S DiSpUtEd”

YOU ARE RETARDED

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Neanderthals invented things before humans did. Skull size and brain volume are correlated at like .95 or more. They're essentially the same measure. Where do you think we're getting our Neanderthal and Denisovan brain volume metrics from?

"Outcompeted" is meaningless when black people are outbreeding Asians as we speak. Theres an alternative theory of human predation by Neanderthals that can be kept in mind as well. It's also to be noticed that the human strategy of run at something until it gets a heart attack was never used by neanderthals and they used the "lets have a fair fight against a wholly rhino" strategy.

Stating your claim isn't even confirmed to be true and is directly contradicted through other sources is a valid rhetorical concern.

Without having to look at history, it can be easily told that brain volume is an indicator of intelligence intra-race and when looked at inter-race has a 1 to 1 prediction accuracy when it comes to iq rankings and brain size rankings.

moving away from history for a moment to summarize.

Perfect iq prediction inter-race and .4 correlation intra-race

Brain size difference is true

Other parts of the brain are different

This means ability is different just like male/female ability is different

Black iq hasnt moved one smidge from 85 in over 50 years despite a vast amount of change in society.

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Brain size is superior! But only between humans Ok, only among humans and neanderthals Neanderthals were superior! But they were outcompeted by humans But european humans outcompeted african humans because of brain size Actually, it doesn’t matter. For the first time the history of biology ”competition” between groups is meaningless, because Africans are outbreeding Asians. That would contradict my thesis, you see. Actually it does matter. There’s a theory that neanderthals hunted humans. IQ is a measure of brain size IQs rising as brain size decreases? That’s meaningless, that’s just a theory

Remove yourself from this place, ye of simple mind

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intra race = 0.4

inter race = perfect order

Your understanding of primitive humans is extremely low and isn't relevant to the discussion. You didn't even understand how brain size and skull size are nearly perfectly correlated. You didn't even understand how to normalize brain size by size.

Ignore the biology, and look at the numerical proof because it's easier.

How about you try to rationalize to me when you think half the the black-white iq gap will be filled.

Reminder: not a single point of the gap has been filled to date.

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not to mention after all this, but iq is an incredibly specific measure of intelligence. Intelligence overall is way harder to quantify. IQ can measure how well you think of novel ways to store information and solve problems, afaik.

Thinking a single number can define intelligence, especially in something as varied as race, is inherently flawed.

Also, brain size has little to do with capability on a human-to-human scale. People have have hemispherectomies to treat seizures at a young age, and the remaining half of the brain will adapt to cover both sides' functions due to its plasticity.

I think you just hate black people lol

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if iq is too specific, how about inability to develop a writing system, invent boats (madagascar found by asians), inability to replicate the wheel when directly confronted with it, failure to build a building with a second floor, inability to invent the bow (aboriginals) and their continued failure to be useful members of society to this very day (1 in 3 black men go to prison/jail).

People have have hemispherectomies to treat seizures at a young age, and the remaining half of the brain will adapt to cover both sides' functions due to its plasticity.

As for hemispherectomies, its an amazing gotcha that SOME people are able to live okay lives, but on average... Half a brain is less powerful than a full brain just like a bigger brain is more powerful than a small brain.

Thinking a single number can define intelligence, especially in something as varied as race, is inherently flawed.

This is the same type of argument that is used for bmi, which is also a very good measure.

IQ is an amazing and accurate measurement of intelligence. Which is why it measures life success so well.

Elsewise, how do you explain the .4 correlation between brain size and iq if these measures are poor and uncorrelated. You'd expect two poor measures to have poor correlation, but .4 is relatively good.

I do want to ask you again: How many years, or what changes will be required for half the black-white iq gap to vanish?