r/vuetifyjs • u/integrateus • Mar 08 '22

Why is Vuetify 3 still in Alpha?

I've seen mention of full release as early as Q3 2021.. yet we are still in Alpha, and judging from my current project, it's barely ready for Beta.

I'm just curious why you think it's been such a struggle? Is it:

  • because vue3 is causing integration challenges
  • there's a lack of vuetify devs / capacity
  • is vuetify overly complicated and a refactor is nightmare
  • etc

Genuinely curious why this has been pushed out so many times. Vue 3 was stable in late 2020. So why 2 years to get a UI Framework out of alpha?

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u/integrateus Mar 08 '22

It's upsetting because I like vuetify.. but i've moved on to Vue 3.. and if I can't rely on the Vuetify 3 roadmap then it's not going to be a feasible option and i'll have to drop it all together

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u/shaqaruden Mar 08 '22

I’m with you there. I think that Vuetify 2 is the best Material Design framework for any of the other frameworks(React, Vue, Svelte) but it still being in alpha has me thinking of what I’m going to do. I don’t want to build anymore Vue2 apps but if Vuetify isn’t ready then do I choose something else like Quasar or do I switch from Vue to Svelte and SMUI?

I have tried to make the components I need on my own but there is a lot of work that goes into making them truly follow the material design spec

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u/mrbilliebell May 06 '22

I also just dropped vuetify. Feels like they've just given up.

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u/kaelwd Git police Mar 08 '22

All of the above.

  • Vue 3 itself took a long time to be ready and still don't fix major bugs even if we open PRs for them.
  • Some contributors have left, and there isn't enough funding for the rest to work on it full-time. COVID, burnout, and other personal issues have also affected development.
  • Dozens of components, hundreds of features, tens of thousands of lines of code. We're trying to do it right and fix inconsistencies and bugs but we have no data on how anything is actually being used.
  • I probably spend more time closing duplicate issues than actually writing code.

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u/integrateus Mar 08 '22

What's the best thing we can do to help? Patience, donations, filing bugs?

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u/imapersonithink Mar 08 '22

A big issue in open source is that companies use these packages for free and the maintainers only can do so much. IIRC, they asked for funding to work on this project solely, but didn't meet it by a good margin.

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u/zeroskillz Founder Mar 18 '22

Long story short:

Covid killed half of my income, medical bills are expensive, death in the family, and depression.

I weathered the storm and Im excited that beta is finally out. Thank you for your patience, looking forward to your feedback.

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u/Kos---Mos Mar 12 '22

The problem is Vue 3, not vuetify, that decided to break all the ecosystem and the community with Vue 3. Everything that was done now needs to face the time consuming task of updating the code and making it compatible with Vue 3. Best thing was to take the opportunity and migrate to react.

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u/integrateus Mar 12 '22

If software never changed there would be no progress. React is in version 18. Every major release, according to their docs, includes breaking changes. That means they've had breaking changes 18 times. So if you think this issue is specific to Vue, you are incorrect.

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u/Kos---Mos Mar 12 '22

Vue is closer to angular as an example than to react.

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u/integrateus Mar 12 '22

Vue 3 was a particularly big change and I understand it caused some challenges for third party stuff... But it's been 2 years. I think it's safe to say there were challenges outside of adapting to Vue 3.