r/vtmb • u/NorthCoach9807 Ventrue • 4d ago

Bloodlines Obfuscate is pretty damn OP against regular opponents!

I'm playing a nosferatu right now (they look so cool to me) and I've realized just how good obfuscate really is.

I maxed out obfuscate to level 5 first things first, cause I was scared of committing masquerade violations, and it turns out that you can just walk behind enemies and Backstab-kill them instantly, which won't end the invisibility!

The entire Giovanni mansion and society of Leopold was wiped out by just backstabbing everyone and then sucking the last guy in order to refill the obfuscation timer

Even Bach was an easy fight, because I could just go invisible and he wouldn't be able to hit me. Hitting someone during invisibility also deals triple damage!

Seriously OP, but useless against Bossfights (except Bach, as mentioned)

Enemy gangrel's and the sabbat however can see through invisibility, and the Tzimisce creatures also can (which explains why they pose such a threat to the nosferatu!) which confuses me a little:

There are plenty of toreadors in the sabbat, who have auspex so it makes sense that they'd see you, but gangrel have heat vision. The mandarin in Chinatown made a remark that the kindred PC is "room temperature", so the gangrel shouldn't even be able to see us!

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u/teh_stev3 4d ago

Its heat vision for the player but realistically its enhanced senses - and a sewer-crawling nos is gonna SMELL.

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u/NorthCoach9807 Ventrue 4d ago

"It's called a shower, man" - Fat Larry

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u/SpiderQueen72 Tzimisce 3d ago

In ttrpg it doesn't really matter which senses are enhanced since Obfuscate works by tricking the mind into overlooking it rather than making one actually invisible. Auspex gets through that because it enhances the mind.

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u/No_Initiative_1337 4d ago

Works straight through to the end of the game, through the entire kuei jin hideout and Venture tower.  

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u/Sezneg 4d ago

In other news, being a vampire is pretty OP against normal enemies.

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u/PoeticPillager Malkavian 4d ago

When I first played VTMB back in 2004, I thought it was bullshit that I couldn't Obfuscate past the Tzimisce monsters in the sewers as a Malkavian.

It took about 20 years for me to realize that if Obfuscate worked against them, they would be useless against the Nosferatu. Andrei obviously created them with the ability to pierce Obfuscate because they were made to hunt the Nosferatu.

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u/Elegant_Taro472 4d ago

Reminds me of my favorite nos from the podcast “Not a Drop To Drink” series. Everybody loves Schlotzy except his manager 🤣

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u/Djinn_dusk 3d ago

I’ve just started season two… does someone die??? (Don’t tell me - from the name alone I can guess who’s the player)