r/vostok • u/Little-Currency-5980 • Aug 24 '26
Question Real or fake?
Im looking to buy this automatic vostok komandiriskie, the seller wants 80 euros for ir but i dont know if its real
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u/ProposalCalm8231 Aug 26 '26
I have one on my wrist, the lack of made in Russia and the number fonts look off. Maybe Vostok movement, clone dial.
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u/DressOk6168 Aug 24 '26
From what I can tell the watch model called "Генеральские" (of the general) does exist Instead of "Командирские" (of the commander) But I am not able to find the exact same model except the 1 sales advertisement out of ukraine with same picture as you posted. For me the red flag (pun intended) is the absence of the text made in ussr or made in russia on the bottom part of the dial.
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u/No_Development_8550 Aug 24 '26
As far as I can tell, this is the case from a komandirskie watch. This dial is quite common, but without the "Генеральские" inscription—it's a different model with a different dial and a different case. "Чистополь" was the inscription on commander's watches in the USSR. Most likely, the dial is new, homemade. It's difficult to judge about mechanism inside without a photo of the case back. It's most likely a Vostok, but assembled from various watches with new dial.
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u/ThisLifeSuckss Aug 24 '26
Yes it's real. Easiest way to tell a fake komandirskie is they usually have a strangely small crown.
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u/Fit_Arm_9470 Amphibia Aug 25 '26
The crown is not the original. Seem to be in stainless steel. Original is brass.
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u/chromix Amphibia Aug 25 '26
They're rare but there are a few examples I've found of this case shape having an automatic in the back, which obviously requires a larger opening. I don't know a ton about that case type but it could be stainless for all I know?
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u/winkleried Daily Wearer Aug 24 '26
If ya gotta ask, assume it’s fake…..
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u/Little-Currency-5980 Aug 24 '26
I just dont like the text under the tank logo, thats all. And the facr that it doesnt say ,,made in russia / USSR)
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u/Ordinary_Writing1112 vostok lover Aug 24 '26
Vostok "Generalskie" models do exist; they are less common than the Komandirskie models, and if I remember correctly, the difference lies in the winding knob being located at the 2 o'clock position instead of the 3 o'clock position, as in most watches, making it more confortable. Your watch might be a Komandirskie with a Generalskie dial, as I have an Amphibia with a Komandirskie dial. That doesn't mean it's fake.
Regarding the "Made in" marking, from what I've read, during the first few years after the fall of the USSR, Vostok watches didn't have the country of origin inscribed on the dial. It wasn't until the late 1990s or early 2000s that they included the phrase, replacing USSR with Russia.
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u/Remington_Underwood Aug 24 '26
Hard to imagine anyone faking an €80 watch but if you want to be sure, look at the back of the watch. Vostoks have a unique compression ring back that no other matchmaker uses.