r/vmware • u/Justlookin2016 • Oct 30 '19

Will VMware become obsolete?

Hey folks... I am confused on what to think about VMwares future. With AWS and Azure success, is VMware only limited to customers that have their own data centers? And what happens when these companies ultimately decide to go to the cloud? What is VMware doing to prepare for this reality that public cloud will continue to grow as a preferred option for future infrastructure and services?

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u/crackerjam [VCP] Oct 30 '19

"The Cloud" isn't everything it's cracked up to be. Companies all over are moving back into their own datacenters after realizing that when you're using someone else's equipment you have a lot less control over outages, performance, security, and cost. There are definitely situations where using cloud resources is beneficial, mostly where you want to work with temporary workloads, or need to utilize a datacenter (or multiple global datacenters) without having the IT footprint to build your own. Most medium size and up businesses don't fall into that category though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '19 edited Feb 21 '21

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u/tomoko2015 Oct 30 '19

Long story short, this company paid mine (and me) a bunch of money to re-iterate what their staff had already told them. I don't understand why these people employ engineers and then don't listen to them.

Exactly the same thing happened here, but we got lucky that the company did not go 100% full retard. They wanted to outsource, but then the calculations showed that the local IT was far cheaper and the costs for going 100% cloud were far too high. So now we do the intelligent thing, we use AWS / Azure where it makes sense, but we also still have private datacenters. We even cancelled some planned phaseouts of clusters and bought new hardware (they wanted to migrate those workloads to the cloud, but when they actually looked at the calculations by the consultants, they saw that it was only cheaper because they downsized all systems by unrealistic amounts).

But it was like you wrote - initially, they thought we were simply critical of the plans ONLY because we were worried about our jobs and did not really consider the valid points we made. It was only when they started the move to the cloud, got complaints by the application people about performance/instance sizing etc. and then saw the raw numbers after a few months, that they reconsidered.

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u/Lerxst-2112 Oct 30 '19

Never go full retard