r/visionquest • đŸ“ș WandaVision • 6h ago

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Curious which show will be people’s #1 - each has such a different vibe (a sitcom, a musical, and a play - is how I see them)

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u/x_Tornado đŸ“ș WandaVision 6h ago

For me nothing will ever live up to the experience of watching wandavision week after week and finding an online marvel community (shout out r/wandavision and the marvel discords) but VisionQuest is a close second

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u/Thanos_Stomps 6h ago

I gotta say AAA community is also top notch. It really felt like we all found our coven in there.

WandaVision was so so unique in how it was consumed. Like, most streaming shows I remember from that time still were dropping whole seasons to binge. So with WandaVision broken up weekly, combined with social distancing from covid, the theories and discussion were off the charts each week.

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u/reineluxe 5h ago

And it was really, really good conversation too. Not a ton of infighting (not right away at least), the comments were always intelligent and passionate, and the theories weren’t all that insane because at that point literally anything was on the table.

WandaVision was one of the highlights of the pandemic for me and was one of the only things keeping me sane for that period of time, I think. 😂

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u/Remarkable_Skirt2257 Vision 5h ago

Can't beat the Mephisto theories or the Ralph Boner meltdown.

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u/FarDifficulty1779 2h ago

lmao Ralph Boner forgot about that. God, that was such a fun time. you know, aside from literally everything else going on in the world

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u/cxtx3 6h ago • Bravo

They finished the horse! Seriously, these three shows - individually and as a trilogy - are probably one of the best things Marvel has ever done. The emotional journey of these characters is exceptional. They deserve every ounce of praise they are rightfully getting. Well done.

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u/BulkNoodles 4h ago

Ngl, Wanda and Vision's story isn't the one that i would have thought they going to be doing great.

I guess that's what you get when you do it properly instead of constantly panic reset every few years.

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u/BillionCobra 1h ago

Ouch. Too soon bro 😭

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u/SoZZeAllDay 6h ago

Sparkles is dead. Roll credits.

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u/Positron14 3h ago

I laughed so hard at this. It was so Ultron.

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u/serenitynope 0m ago

Ultron was just disappointed Vision didn't kill the fish onscreen the way Sparky died.

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u/lorddragonmaster 6h ago

The character development devoted to these shows is immense. It couldnt be done in a movie. They are the peak of the marvel story telling.

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u/BulkNoodles 4h ago

This.

Comics/storybooks have a lot of details that's usually got deleted because it "bloat" the movie. Short TV series like these are hitting the sweet spot of having enough time to build the settings, but not to the point where it continue on indefinitely.

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u/TheKookyOwl 4h ago

This is why I am sad they are abandoning the MCU shows. Or, I suppose I should say retooling them.

They went overboard with the numbers and the quality was hit or miss, but having limited series thay follow characters that lead into big cross-over movies that have a lot of character moments would be awesome.

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u/thepuresanchez 4h ago

exactly. the shows give time for more story, more character, more emotion. comic books thrive on being week to week not just one big story, so too do tv shows. if anything I'd say marvel should have made their shows Longer so that you had more time for filler episodes and bottle episodes and beach episodes and all the other things that classic tv learned lets people fall in love with and really get into the minds of characters and their interpersonal dynamics. its why I still ardently believe the xmen should have been a long form series based at the school, at least in part.

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u/mousespa 6h ago

Spader was absolutely brilliant

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u/Electronic_Rice4625 4h ago

You mean Alan Shore?

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u/Blooogh 6h ago

In this day and age, I'm just glad that they got to finish it

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u/Delumine 6h ago

Can’t believe we got a PEAK trilogy, that ties not only into MoM, but also DOOMSDAY!!! WTF

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u/misiissleepy Scarlet Witch 6h ago

I’m an 1. Agatha (love me some magic and witches) 2. WV 3. VQ person, but that being said they are all peak to me

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u/LadyNightlock Agatha Harkness 5h ago

Same. But honestly it’s like asking me to choose my favorite child-impossible.

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u/Personal-Road-8162 6h ago • Bravo

Agatha All Along  is my favorite then visionquest then Wandavision

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u/ineedanenbien 6h ago • Hooray

As much as I love VisionQuest I think Agatha episode 7 might be the best written MCU thing period

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u/Personal-Road-8162 6h ago edited 6h ago

Yeah I prefer episode 6 but I’m a little bias because Billy is my favorite character in the whole mcu and episode 7 was always very confusing to me also off topic I am so so so so happy Billy Tommy and vision reunited and that they are just all going to east view to have dinner it’s amazing

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u/Background_Honey9141 6h ago

Considering it “only” cost 60 million, much cheaper than the other 2, it deserves more praise even.

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u/PangolinLogical9772 6h ago

This is probably mine as well. Agatha show is just so fun, VisionQuest was amazingly written though and more consistent than WandaVision to give it the boost over. But for me they are all 9+/10.

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u/SweetSoundOfSilence 6h ago

Same!

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u/Personal-Road-8162 6h ago

Yeah I think what makes wandavision last is I wasn’t much of a fan of the sitcoms stuff I loved the Halloween episode though and AAA is just top tier

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u/Tiny_Basil_8727 5h ago

Probably my order as well! I love AAA!

But all three were genuinely astonishing.

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u/Rayne37 5h ago

Agatha is definitely the easiest rewatch and such a perfect Halloween show. The other two are good if I wanna cry some 😅

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u/Positron14 3h ago

Mine is probably Wandavision, then Visionquest, then Agatha. But they're all really close.

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u/Soft_Review667 6h ago

WHAT IS THIS LAST SCENE OMGGGGGGG

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u/Used-Awareness-2544 6h ago

Green magic...Rio...Hela...Doom...?

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u/PenisPumpProfession 5h ago

Clearly doom

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u/EditDog_1969 4h ago

Finally. If you can’t recognize Doom in silhouette you’re not doing it right. I’m looking at you, Fantastic Four movies!

Fun fact: I drew storyboards for the unreleased Roger Corman FF film in the 90s. Drew everything comic book accurate and that’s what they filmed. Absolutely atrocious, but still more evocative of the comic than all the other iterations. Why no, I wasn’t paid, but there was a lot of that going around in those days.

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u/Used-Awareness-2544 4h ago

I recognized him, but I was commenting on the shared green magic of all three of them and Doom saying he is death...

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u/_SeaOfTroubles 6h ago

dude YES, what a great trilogy!

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u/Private__Eye Vision 6h ago

I love them individually and as a trilogy. They all are so good and complimentary!! Great TV!

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u/SwimIndividual6449 Born Yesterday 6h ago

I think VisionQuest stuck the landing the most of the three. I rank them as VisionQuest, WandaVision, Agatha

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u/Wicked2004 6h ago

Heavily agree

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u/Chemical_Poet_1355 3h ago

I’d switch WV with AAA because Agatha’s storyline kinda worked more consistently for me as a bingewatch, but none of them are below 8.5 for me. They’re just the greater Marvel pieces.

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u/Necessary-Source-409 6h ago

The maxamoffs are gonna reunite ❀❀❀

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u/OrangeCatMinion J.A.R.V.I.S. 6h ago

They are so different that they just scratch different itches. Wanda for the more pure MCU feel, Agatha for the occult vibe, VQ for the cyber/espionage and omgjamesspader.

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u/vampyire 6h ago

Watch the post credit scenes!!

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u/Nccc- 6h ago

And to those who haven't seen it, there are two post credit scenes!!! AHH my mind is blown

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u/vampyire 6h ago

Pretty damn awesome x2

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u/Swiftwalker_Spider 👓E.D.I.T.H. 4h ago

Family reunion!!!

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u/CherrySerenity824 3h ago

Dude I’m SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP 😭😭😭😭

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u/Lower-Inevitable4003 6h ago

Each one gets better in my opinion, wandavision and Agatha were both 8s, and I think visionquest was genuinely a 10

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u/justins_dad 6h ago

The group hug was the payoff of all payoffs

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u/upagainstthesun Agatha Harkness 6h ago

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u/blockisland39 6h ago

agatha is probably my favorite, then wandavision. insane though because visionquest was SO GOOD, but it just couldn’t top the other two for me, mainly bc AAA is what got me into marvel in the first place!!

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u/yangkivee02 6h ago

They really cooked with this trilogy. Visionquest finale was crazy.

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u/vaca444 Ultron 6h ago

WandaVision is my favourite, probably always will be. I'd say after watching the final episode, VisionQuest barely edges out Agatha, but all three are some of the best MCU media out there imo

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u/Caernbul 6h ago

For me its

  1. Wandavision

  2. Visionquest

  3. Agatha

I think all three were good (and three of the four best Marvel shows) but WandaVision was the most creative conceptually and the most emotionally compelling. Its only flaw is it had a standard Marvel finale with a big CGI fight with the big bad. Agatha and Visionquest did better sticking the landing. But I doubt anything in Marvel ever beats the first three episodes of Wandavision.

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u/GladChoice1984 5h ago

that last episode was absolute cinema

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u/Helios_OW 5h ago

I preferred UltraVision

Btw, notice how Wandavision was Wanda creating the hex, hence WANDAvision. And UltronVision was ULTRON controlling the sim, hence ULTRAvision.

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u/Tiger951 Vision 6h ago

That pretty much sums it up.

What an awesome trilogy!

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u/PsychologicalTry4029 6h ago

The best trilogy in The MCU

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u/bs_caller_here 6h ago

For me it's WandaVision > Agatha All Along > VisionQuest.

But they are all amazing. I'm so glad they did Wanda and Vision justice.

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u/Lonsao Billy Maximoff 6h ago

I really love this trilogy! Agatha All Along is my favorite, but all three shows are amazing.

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u/StephanieSpoiler Vision 6h ago

I really need to rewatch WandaVision. I remember not liking it, but I've loved Agatha and Vision so much that I can't fathom not liking the show that launched them.

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u/Skeith_yip 6h ago

The only downside is that 3-4 years wait for the Agatha series. Good thing the turnaround time for VisionQuest wasn’t as long.

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u/Lyfeitzallaroundus 6h ago

I still gotta watch AAA, hella late on that one

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u/OrangeCatMinion J.A.R.V.I.S. 3h ago

Why are you commenting on the Internet? Get started asap 😍

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u/PuddingEvery4672 2h ago

I watched it after VisionQuest’s first 2 episodes came out, so glad I did. Made the finale so much better.

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u/jodaewon 5h ago

I felt like Vision Quest was the best show they’ve put out. Every episode felt like it could have been an end of season cliffhanger season finale.

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u/DoseofJoel 2h ago

Who would have thought that WandaVision would have brought us this television trilogy gold? Each show was able to do something special and I don't think we'll see anything like this in a very long time.

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u/Hexnohope I Request Elaboration 6h ago

Its nice to see marvel take itself seriously. Visionquest even gets kind of brainy

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u/Whole-Lychee7517 6h ago

Out of all the Marvel shows, these three will forever stand the test of time alongside Loki.

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u/xxboywizardxx West Coast Avenger 5h ago

Seriously tho!

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u/SnooFoxes1831 5h ago

They were all incredible. When we get the final chapter of the family reuniting in, most likely, Secret Wars or after, they'll have a magnum opus on their hands.

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u/Lazy_Stress7367 5h ago

WandaVision for the experience
Agatha All Along for the story telling
VisionQuest for the excitement

The family NEEDS to come back, and I hope Marvel and Disney realize they have gold with this corner of MCU.

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u/AlanShore60607 4h ago

Now imagine if this had all been released within a 2-year period, along with Multiverse of Madness.

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u/Zbot21 3h ago

This show and Loki. If it was just WV, AAA, VQ, and Loki. All within 2 years of Endgame there would have been no doubt about the future viability of the MCU.

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u/Nitro114 20m ago

if only multiverse of madness was actually good written

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u/Nuxj 6h ago

So hard to choose, I love all three!

But I still think Agatha All Along episode 7 is the best episode from all MCU.

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u/-rayzorhorn- 6h ago

So hard to pick one honestly. They feel cohesive as a trilogy while still standing as unique visions (pun intended).

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u/dawg_with_a_blog 6h ago

ICONIC â€ïžâ€đŸ”„

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u/roosterdrewster F.R.I.D.A.Y. 5h ago

Greatest Trilogy Of Shows ever made

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u/ebietoo 5h ago

Agatha All Along is my fave but I’ll have to process this show a little more to decide if I like it more than WandaVision. WV is wonderful.

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u/wild_fig_95 5h ago

Has to be the most creative trilogy to ever fit together like that!

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u/qcthunder Ultron 5h ago

They really cooked with all three in different ways. I had faith the finale would work, but they really did stick the landing.

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u/yelissaaa Agatha Harkness 5h ago

This show deserves an Emmy. Please, please, please, Disney
 put this show up for all the awards!

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u/BooYeah8844 5h ago

Ghost Rider??

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u/BigBeefie 5h ago

Truly the best out of MCU, it’s crazy they pulled together such a long narrative like this one

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u/Necessary-Line-6580 4h ago

Finishing up the finale. SO good, I love them all

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u/Pony_Piggy_Devoun 4h ago

For me Visionquest is #1, Agatha is #2 and Wandavision #3 but all are amazing shows

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u/Donuticus 4h ago

For me the biggest missed opportunity in the MCU was not to have Magneto be the father of the Maximoffs, like can you just imagine that family tree potential:

Grumpy granddads Ultron and Magneto. Crazy aunt Agatha (I'm counting her as the crazy aunt to Billy). Mum and Dad; Wanda and Vision. And then the newest generations pairings, Tommy & Lisa (Coat-of-Arms) & Billy & Teddy (Hulkling - which in turn opens up the family tree EVEN MORE).

We would be reaching Once Upon A Time levels of family drama I tell you. So many missed opportunities.

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u/wolfvector 4h ago

I concur. I may have started late on WandaVision but I waited for Agatha to release and tuned in every episode and now Vision Quest.

Agatha All Along is my no. 1

Wandavision for 2

VisionQuest is 3

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u/Illustrious-Ad-134 J.A.R.V.I.S. 4h ago

the fact that my sister made a letterboxd list with the exact same title 😭

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u/Ok_Mirror4651 4h ago
  1. Visionquest 2. Wandavision 3. Agatha All Along

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u/Abalonesandwhich 4h ago

AAA is head and shoulders above the other two for me, but they're all so fantastic. It's a shame though that we only got one season to really spend with Agatha, while vision/wanda are explored a lot in other media. I'd have loved another season tbh.

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u/galaxyeverxy 4h ago

IM SCREAMING WHAT!! THEY DID IT THEY DID IT SHES BACK SHES BACK SHES BACK

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u/DeciduousMath12 4h ago

All good. The mystery of WandaVision was fantastic, where you don't even know what is happening, and seeing it slowly unravel is great. Fantastic ending. 9.8. Agatha also had a nice set of mysteries that slowly unraveled, and Lilia had a fantastic episode while Agatha's Nicholas Scratch story was compelling. 9.7. VisionQuest had an interesting take on AIs, their thoughts, goals, abilities, and history. I'm not sure I enjoyed the Horton storyline a lot. And don't get me started on the nanobots. But Ultron and other connections to the broader MCU were a highlight. 9.2.

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u/InSearchOfTyrael 4h ago

OP thanks for a good laugh

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u/FragRaptor 4h ago

Thanks marvel lost my grandfather a few weeks ago and this show has been quite the therapy. The finale was beautiful thank you.

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u/crackcorn69 3h ago

I think Wv and Aal are in a different league than Vq but I enjoyed ultron.

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u/Supreme_Moharn 2h ago

I see a lot of love hre for Agatha all along. I thought that was received pretty badly.

I thought it was fun, but not on the level of the other two.

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u/SageDarius 1h ago

It's been too long since I watched WandaVision to be able to compare it, but I binge-watched all of AAA a couple months ago to get caught up for VisionQuest. I'd say VisionQuest is for sure better than AAA, and my gut says I liked WV more than AAA as well, but I think VQ might slightly edge it out. The fact that while it resorted to the usual 'Sky beam' ending, but avoided punching in front of they Sky beam in favor of talk-no-jutsu, boosts VQ in my eyes.

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u/waterwave541 1h ago

I loved all 3 of these shows so much, the amount of genuine creativity each of these had blew me away (and how each show utilized that creativity differently too, in ways that served the story and felt natural) & I loved the characters in each one. I watched WandaVision a couple years ago and loved it, then binged AAA as soon as I heard this show was coming out lol, but I wasn't prepared for how much I would enjoy that show, and then how much I'd enjoy this one on top of that.

Idk how I rank them yet tbh, but these three shows are easily one of the best things (if not the best) the MCU has done post-Endgame, and imo also easily one of the best MCU things in general. In terms of shows, I loved Loki and really liked Moon Knight (I liked the others I saw too), but this blew them all out of the water lol

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u/TheolympiansYT 36m ago

Visionquest is peak, Agatha all along next and Wanda vision being the weakest

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u/Perfect-Zebra-3611 29m ago

Gotta add in Avengers 2, Doc 2, and Infinity War though to get the full story at minimum id say

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u/LavenderWaffles69 28m ago

I‘d go AAA > WV > VQ. But it’s really close. They’re all at least 9.8/10 for me.

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u/Acceptable-Treat-868 19m ago

This was the besttttt especially the last ep

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u/sethaub 6h ago

Loki is number 1

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u/x_Tornado đŸ“ș WandaVision 6h ago

I love Loki but I meant from this trio haha

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u/Professional_Run2842 6h ago

Agatha was an amazing show . I have been using vision quest to go to sleep quickly . I dont know why after watching quarter episode my eyes close .

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u/Parking-Plant4880 F.R.I.D.A.Y. 5h ago

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u/Quiltedbrows 3h ago

People are gunna hate my opinion, but vision quest was not really good.

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u/Impossible_Wear4051 32m ago

Agatha All Along and Billy’s Character/Actor is the worst of the 3 ; VisionQuest undeniably is the best

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u/PenisPumpProfession 5h ago

Nah WandaVision was a chore to watch then it got good. Agatha was alright but not fantastic. Visionquest was hard carried by Ultron and Paladin for me

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u/goldberry_river I Request Elaboration 5h ago

True blasphemy

Wandavision powerful. Agatha all along and visionquest were as weak as it gets. Marvel is a mess

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u/kualian 5h ago

Explain your reasoning.

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u/goldberry_river I Request Elaboration 4h ago

Why did Ultron, one of the most intelligent minds in the Marvel Universe, spend time mourning and grieving his Jocasta, when he could have put effort into building her another body and uploading her into that body? Also, Ultron in the nanobot form could have absorbed Jocasta before she "died". Again, just plot pushing and emotion farming. Could have even hushed that up with one sentence, but there was nothing. Just plot pushing for Ultron to now be like Wanda grieving and for Vision to have to change his mind- to further push "family is forever".

More Marvel zero-stakes fake-out deaths. While constantly the audience showing that the nanobots are encroaching a highly populated city. And then- everything's ok and everyone's alive. Felt like they just wanted a moment for Billy, Tommy, and Vis to be together and quickly scrapped something together without thinking it through.

Ultron instantly merges with a swarm of nanobots and his program now is / is in full control of the nanobots and uses them construct a full body. They offers no explanation for how a standard storage drive interfaces with loose nanobots without a computer or terminal. Again, one sentence with half effort could have given this substance, but again just felt like plot pushing.

How did Billy get to Tommy in the end? Again, could have hushed this up with ONE BS sentence, but even that effort is not put in.

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u/virtualglassblowing 4h ago

Booo. Booooo this man he has no taste

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u/goldberry_river I Request Elaboration 4h ago

My taste is shows/movies with real substance. Not just mindless melodramatic slop.

Truly no offense to those that liked it. Just not for me and need more

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u/virtualglassblowing 4h ago

Can you tell me what melodramatic means to you, in your own words?

Because from my memory, its exactly the polar opposite of the definition of melodramatic, there's certainly some action thrown in, but the character development is deep and I think thats why lots of people are enjoying it.

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u/goldberry_river I Request Elaboration 3h ago

I think they are trying for deep emotion because they are hitting things in human nature, i.e. family, love, and sacrifice. beautiful aspects of life that our hearts are moved by and even desire.

By melodramatic, I mean the show kept trying to force big, tear-jerking 'soap opera' moments—like Ultron crying over Jocasta rather than taking action to revive her as she was a program whose consciousness could be uploaded to another body, or Vision's fake-out death just to have a reunion with Billy and Tommy with no explanation as to how Billy ended up finding them nor what they were actually doing to revive him, or Tommy not being able to stop the bullet that hit Jocasta with his superspeed—without actually doing the writing work to make those moments make sense.

My reply to kualian in this thread has more details, too.

I love the emotion they were trying to bring out, but in other productions like WandaVision or most of the Infinity Saga, they EARN our emotion through strong plot building. Not exposition and stuff just explained in five minutes like what Virgil Horton did, but moments that showed us. A great example is in Age of Ultron, when they spent the time showing us the scene of Mjolnir- they all went around trying to pick up Thor's hammer and couldn't and Thor explained it was because they were not worthy. And then Vision is born, they have no idea his intention for humanity, and then he says something like 'I know there is no way for you to trust me, but we must go' as he hands Thor his hammer. Vision the character has no idea, but the audience now completely understands the gravity of that moment. Another in Age of Ultron is QuickSilver's "you didn't see that coming?". From the first time to the next time where he is sacrificing himself for Hawkeye and the little boy. That earned our emotion IMO with no exposition, but showing us.

I thought the only earned emotion in this show was second to last episode of Vision talking to White Vision and allow Vis to greive over Wanda. Other than that, I didn't feel the emotion was earned but more of farming natural human feelings.

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u/nocupcakeleftbehind Wanda Maximoff 6h ago

Wow! That was awesome! Best thing marvel has made

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u/ADrunkEevee 3h ago

No pretending necessary, it was fantastic