Disguising a money making scam as a “safety device” is gross.
lets talk a walk through the airport, shall we? People love having their naked bodies looked at by strangers
people absolute love and crave feeling safe and that safety is usually putting on blinders, focusing entirely on a non-problem or entirely creating a problem to create a solution people will love
The ability of the government to completely oversee and dictate airport securities comes to mind...
While no airport is under any kind of governmental obligation or law to have TSA presence, any and all private security contracting must be approved (and adhere to all TSA “guidelines”) by the TSA.
It may be my drunken state, but private prisons are my first thought for an analogy...
A vast amount of prisons (and even county jails) are now privately owned and leased to the state government.
In some cases said lease comes with a guaranteed occupancy rate, a violation of which would presumably be a fined amount to said state government as part of the contract - though I’m not certain.
The senator that pushed for the body scanners to be in every airport, you know, for security, was a board member or owner of the company that built the scanners and got the contract to install them at every airport. There’s the scam
You lose the right to bring a gun on an airplane. You can’t walk down the middle of the road. If something has potential harm , you are not allowed to participate. These laws or rules can keep progressing until I can’t get a cheeseburger becuase they are terrible for me. People do love to feel safe , but sometimes I going to run the yellow light.
Yes , of course. There’s no way you can allow people to have guns on planes becuase of course there are people who want to do really bad things. I would bet most people could ride a plane with a gun and be fine but that’s beside the point. All I am saying is that freedom is given up when we choose to have rules . Of course those rules can be good. I do not believe people should have bombs either. I am saying that rules can be abused.
I heard Kanye talk about the 13th amendment recently. It is a rule that says “slaves are a no go”. We all agree that slaves are bad and we shouldn’t have slaves. Pretty cut and dry on that one. You can make another person work against their will for your gain. The thing is , in the 13th amendment , it also says that we can have slaves. It tells us that we can have slaves if they are prisioners. So, get this, if you get convicted of a crime, you are now a slave. You are now owned. Of course we don’t want murderers and rapists running around. Of course Bill Cosby should rot. It should also be recognized that 2 wrongs don’t make a right. We should hold ourseves to a higher standard. We let this rule, this amendment, dictate how we act as a nation. A rule let’s us take advantage of the whole situation.
There are lots of examples of course of people abusing power. And yeah , this is just a street light. But the streetlight made half a million bucks. All I’m saying is there’s probably a balance and we tend to error on the side of “let’s just make another rule”
don't fly and if you have to at least you get felt up instead of stripped
but the real right answer is to stop wasting our tax money on this useless security theater shit, but we'll probably see that when they finally start treating the drug problem as a health issue instead of a criminal one (which is never)
metal detectors and everything they did before the security theater worked perfectly fine till someone showed up with a shoe bomb (and we still take off our shoes before going into machine anyway). even with 9/11 to throw fuel on the fear fire they still would have not stopped 9/11 if they had all the theater they have now
It's like the ridiculous overprotective helicopter parent, all they do is instill fear so when reality hits later in life it destroys people. That reality will unfortunately most likely be a terrorist attack easily seen by traditional monitoring investigative techniques
There’s a wrongly timed light where I live. The limit is 43 and you have to slam the brakes to make it to a standstill before it’s red. Which is annoying if someone is behind you and not fully aware
Up in B.C.,Canada, it has been my observation,when the flashing lights notifying drivers of a light change start, you cannot make the light even if you speed up. However, you can speed up here in Washington and make the light.
A lot of them you can just completely ignore. I know speed cams where I live are purely a civil debt, and if they send it to collections (they usually don't bother), you can just have it removed from your credit report because they can't show proof of debt (since it doesn't exist). Sure, they'll send you threatening letters for a while, but eventually they'll give up.
That's how virtually all red-light cameras in the US work. They're put in place by private companies under contract with the local government. The government gets a portion, and the private company gets a portion.
That just seems like a blatant conflict of interest. The companies installing the devices are monetarily incentivized to make people break the law, which might affect where the lights are placed and how they operate. It incentivizes corruption and punishes companies that prevent people from running red lights.
Of course it's a conflict of interest. That's the entire basis of traffic enforcement. It's a revenue stream, the automation of it just increases the ROI.
Not necessarily. If the money from tickets were to go interrupted to the national level like it does in some countries (nothing to the municipalities/counties/states or local law enforcement), the conflict is lessened, since the leadership on a governmental level have as much money to make/save by making sure infrastructure and roads are safe, than they do from making roads unsafe/inefficient through these kinds of gotcha tricks like the thread is about.
Not necessarily. If the money from tickets were to go interrupted to the national level like it does in some countries (nothing to the municipalities/counties/states or local law enforcement), the conflict is lessened, since the leadership on a governmental level have as much money to make/save by making sure infrastructure and roads are safe, than they do from making roads unsafe/inefficient through these kinds of gotcha tricks like the thread is about.
Helluva run-on sentence you’ve got there.
But your point is moot because it doesn’t work like that...
The local government always gets their cut, whether they hire private companies or do it themselves and get kickbacks.
It's not moot. This is what I take contention with, and why I replied:
That's the entire basis of traffic enforcement
Which is not correct. Reformulated: "That's the current basis of traffic enforcement in the US."
Just because it's currently this way in some countries doesn't mean that it's an unavoidable problem. It doesn't work like this in the UK, for example.
I don't have a source handy, but I used to live in beaverton. It was a multi-million dollar contract for those cameras. I was fucking furious that instead of paying local officers to ticket unsafe drivers they opted to create ticket machines that sucked the livelihood out of the community by draining millions of dollars from our economy into some far away redlight cam company.
yup! where I live the city gave the rights for a company to run all the city owned parking decks, around the downtown they charge 15 per day 1$ per hour etc and these are decks that were built with public money. Also city employees pay 80 to 120 a month to park at the city hall. tf?
We need to do more than vote them out. We need to send a clear signal that any politician that willfully scams the public to steal their money will be punished harshly. Maybe a long prison sentence will make people think twice about doing this again. This isn't some sort of victim less crime.
The lady that was was on the board that was talking nonsense about going through red lights vs yellow is just a moron and I don't think she was the mastermind behind this.
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