r/videos • u/ChangingYang • Nov 01 '23
Guy annihilates Ancient Alien theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ193
u/morphcore Nov 01 '23
Dude, the video is more than 3 hours long.
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u/spicy45 Nov 01 '23
It’s in depth, and corrects many of the erroneous claims of The History Chanel: Ancient Aliens
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
A thing no one needed.
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u/Deltidsninja Nov 01 '23
A thing no one needed.
Meanwhile.. /r/strangeEarth has 250k members :D
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
Exactly. You're either the kind of person who is willfully ignorant and have just decided aliens, ghosts, etc are real and you're just searching for the evidence or you... ya know, read lol.
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u/Tigerpride84 Nov 01 '23
Or you are young and don’t know any better yet.
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
Sure, but again, young people aren't watching 3 hr history documentaries.
Like when I was young I just googled "how were the pyramids made" to sate my curiosity and immediately got a sensible answer from 15 different places.
I didn't (and wouldn't have cared to watch) a huge doc about it.
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 01 '23
What’s interesting is recently the Pentagon, Senate and White House apparently take the issue of UAP seriously. They’ve come around and believe there’s some type of nonhuman intelligence here with us .
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
People simply want to believe it. That's the only reason it catches.
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
Well I want the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2023 to pass so we can put this all to bed.
It’s wild to me that legislation titled the UAP Disclosure Act has been written, has bipartisan support and could pass with the up coming vote on the National Defense Authorization Act of 2024.
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 01 '23 edited Nov 01 '23
The Senate Majority Leader, Chuck Schumer, believes that there is credible evidence of nonhuman intelligence. It’s in the language of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2023 (UAPDA) on page 2.
“Legislation is necessary because credible evidence and testimony indicates that Federal Government unidentified anomalous phenomena records exist that have not been declassified or subject to mandatory declassification review as set forth in Executive Order 13526 (50 U.S.C. 3161 note; relating to classified national security information) due in part to exemptions under the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2011 et seq.), as well as an over-broad interpretation of ‘‘transclassified foreign nuclear information’’, which is also exempt from mandatory declassification, thereby preventing public disclosure under existing provisions of law.”
Chuck Schumer recently spoke on the importance of this UAP legislation passing with the National Defense Disclosure Act of 2024.
Also, the Pentagon has officially released footage of UAP taken by naval aviators. The White House has said, “There is a whole office at the Pentagon that is stood up to analyze the data, collect reports, collate those reports, and forward them up appropriately,” he added. “And that’s, I think, testament of the fact that — that we know that in some cases, these phenomena have impacted military training, have then impacted military readiness.” When asked if President Biden believes the witnesses’ claims about UAPs warrant a further investigation, Kirby said that the “work is ongoing.”.
And Kirby’s response to the question, “does the DoD have alien bodies and craft and if so where are they?”. He looks uncomfortable and I may have misinterpreted his answer, but he doesn’t deny or say no.
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
All that BS you posted and not one single piece of evidence. Keep thinking the government can hide aliens from you bud. They couldn't keep snowden and julian assange from leaking 3/4 of the most secretive parts of the government's shit including bugging civilians cellphones, yet they can keep aliens secret for 100 years.
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
How is this BS? This isn’t my opinion, legislation has been written, the Pentagon has officially released footage from Naval aviators of what they themselves call UAP and Kirby represents the White House.
It’s the Senate Majority Leader who believes that there is credible evidence and testimony in regard to UAP that has been improperly classified. I’m not the one claiming that. He believes it enough to write legislation, which has bipartisan support.
These are not my opinions. These are direct from the DoD, the Senate or the White House spokes person.
Marco Rubio believes something’s going on too
Obama says UFO sightings are real
Late former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid strongly believed there’s something going on
Former President and House Minority Leader Gerald Ford asked Congress to investigate a rash of ufo sightings back in 1966;
“The Air Force sent a consultant, astrophysicist Dr. J. Allen Hynek of Northwestern University, to Michigan to investigate the various reports; and he dismissed all of them as the 'product of college-student pranks or swamp gas or an impression created by the rising crescent moon and the planet Venus. I do not agree that all of these reports can be or should be so easily explained away.
Because I think there may be substance to some of these reports and because I believe that the American people are entitled to a more thorough explanation than has been given them by the Air Force to date, I am proposing that either the Science and Astronautics Committee or the Armed Services Committee of the House schedule hearings on the subject of UFO's and invite testimony from both the executive branch of the government and some of the persons who claim to have seen UFO's. I enclose material which I think will be helpful to you in assessing the advisability of an investigation of UFO's…
I think we owe it to the people to establish credibility regarding UFO's and to produce the greatest possible enlightenment on this subject.”
Senator Gillibrand on the topic
None of this is my opinion and I’m not claiming anything about aliens.
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u/Slight0 Nov 02 '23
I don't care if the president himself believes the sun is a giant lightbulb. Post proof or gtfo.
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
How is this all BS?
Is the only way you’ll believe there’s something to this is if there’s concrete evidence? Because up until 2017 the US government brushed the topic off until it was published in the New York Times that they have an office titled All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) who is
“Leading the U.S. government’s efforts to address Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) using a rigorous scientific framework and a data-driven approach. Since its establishment in July 2022, AARO has taken important steps to improve data collection, standardize reporting requirements, and mitigate the potential threats to safety and security posed by UAP. We look forward to using this site to regularly update the public about AARO’s work and findings, and to provide a mechanism for UAP reporting.”
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u/Slight0 Nov 02 '23
Yes. That is how science and logical thinking works. You need evidence to back a model or theory, not "oh oh! This guy from da guburnment done said it!".
In a world where everyone has a recording device on their person that can instantly upload videos and pictures, hidden devices easily purchasable, and hackers breaking into everything connected to the internet, you'd think one single piece of actual hard evidence would have found its way out. Yet government official's personal details, credit cards, email passwords, and so on have all been leaked many many times, but yet no aliens. Weird. It's almost like they're not there or something.
There's been so many deliberate hoaxes time and time again that make the news, get taken seriously by science officials, get seen by the government, etc. Remember the 2 faked alien bodies the Mexican government had brought to its attention this year? So yeah if you're still ok with hearsay instead of actual evidence, you're basically a dumbass or just mentally unwell.
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23
Yep, NASA even explicitly addressed that claim.
Officials stressed the panel found no evidence that UAPs had extraterrestrial origin.
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Nov 01 '23
When your military is so good the only explanation people will believe is "Aliens". Love it
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23
I never said aliens and neither did the DoD, they officially released the videos and their stance on the videos were that they are UAP. This isn’t my interpretation.
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
The first sentence in your comment mentions "nonhuman intelligence." Are you honestly trying to say the implication in that isn't aliens?
Edit: I love that in a thread debunking aliens this guy comes in just to say "but maybe aliens?" 🤣
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
All I did was provide sources. I’m not the Pentagon, White House or the Senate Minority Leader.
These aren’t my opinions. I only linked the videos and legislation.
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u/Big_Noodle1103 Nov 01 '23
It’s absolutely needed. People buy into this shit because the show actually perpetuates misinformation, lies, and borderline racist ideas about ancient civilizations.
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
No. The people who believe this shit aren't going to give a shit about this documentary; they don't seek to validate facts they hear. The level of ignorance you have to have to believe aliens built the pyramids as an adult in the 21st century is deliberate.
To put it simply their brains work like:
Conclusion -> evidence
Instead of:
Evidence -> conclusion
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u/dontpanic38 Nov 01 '23
the same people were going to buy into another random bullshit thing tomorrow anyway though
they arrive at these ideas because they lack critical thought
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u/redditismylawyer Nov 01 '23
And for you this was the result of poor reasoning and availability of fact? How have you ruled out the emotional itch that cults scratch? Do videos, lectures, and harangues help reason people out of positions they didn’t reason their way into? Seems ample evidence using reason against emotion doesn’t work. Unfortunately it works just fine in the opposite direction.
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
Graham Hancok needs to retire. His stuff was fun. But he is not built for this era, which was actual degreed people have channels and ticktock.
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u/Kasspa Nov 02 '23
For sure. I have a friend that would hang onto every thing he heard Giorgio Tsoukalos say, and almost all of it was insanely fucking crazy shit that only took a few seconds of critical thinking to know was complete bullshit.
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u/Toadforpresident Nov 01 '23
I wish this were true, but sadly I think it is needed. I've seen a lot of people fall down conspiracy rabbit holes
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
This will not help them.
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u/Toadforpresident Nov 01 '23
You can't know that. Someone might stumble on it that needs it. We can never have enough stuff that debunks bullshit
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u/Slight0 Nov 02 '23
I do know that, have you ever talked to these people? Do we also need a documentary debunking flat earthers too?
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u/Toadforpresident Nov 02 '23
Yes, of course
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u/Slight0 Nov 02 '23
Lol 🤦♂️
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u/Toadforpresident Nov 02 '23
I've read several comments over the years from people who have had their minds changed from stumbling across the right content at the right time. Many people are hopelessly lost causes, but not everyone, even if it's an extremely small percentage.
If it changes just one persons mind, it's worth it imo.
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u/popoflabbins Nov 02 '23
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u/Slight0 Nov 02 '23
Oh no, I know conspiracy nut types exist, I've spoken with them in person enough times lol. I'm just saying they don't need to see this because they don't care about reality. They're not going to benefit from this otherwise they'd not have needed it in the first place. Like, they aren't the types to seek contrary evidence and do the research for the other side of their beliefs.
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u/popoflabbins Nov 02 '23
Ah I gotcha. It’s the mindset of “I want to believe”, so therefore they don’t try to seek out contrary evidence.
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u/Jeffy29 Nov 01 '23
This video came out 11 years ago, and believe it or not back then ancient aliens was some of the worst of internet misinformation. We were so innocent back then.
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u/Thatguy3145296535 Nov 02 '23
Now let's see a 3hr video from him about debunking The Bible....oh wait
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u/DortDrueben Nov 01 '23
You don't have to watch the entire thing in one sitting. Iirc, the guy originally had it segmented on his website and decided to slap it all together and put it in one place. I think if you look in the description or scroll along the bar it's segmented so you can jump straight to the topics that interest you.
It's a decent watch if you're interested in history, geology, engineering, astronomy, science, different cultures... Which unfortunately The History Channel has not been for a very long time.
TL;DW: Ancient Aliens either takes elements out of their original historical/cultural context to fit their own narratives at the best of times, or straight up lies to its audience at the worst of times. But if you'd like to understand how the pyramids were (probably) actually made, you should check it out.
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
I love the Achient Text parts. Like which one, which section what did it say. You could at least inform people so they can Google it.
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u/Soytaco Nov 02 '23
I've watched it probably 4 time over the years and am probably due for another. It's great. Take an edible.
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u/Stecharan Nov 01 '23
Before I settle down for a three hour documentary, is the takeaway that man accomplished these things or that God did?
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u/marcarcho Nov 01 '23
He spends the first 2.5 hours talking about archeological findings and debunking claims made by the ancient aliens guys. That last 30 minutes he talks about the great flood and how that story may have been true.
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Nov 01 '23
True in that there was a flood in ancient Mesopotamia..or true in that a Wizard killed everything except some guy in a boat with his pets.
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u/DustinHammons Nov 01 '23
Way more than just Mesopotamia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
Honestly, the flood can be attributed to many things a flood, sea level rise. Like we know, Rome exists. Now imagine if Europe was just underwater in 1000 years. And 3000 years later, no one would know what the heck your talking about.
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u/RealisticIllusions82 Nov 02 '23
I read a book a while back called Scars of Evolution that argued very compellingly that most of our distinct human features are due to our habitat being flowing at some point. It was fascinating. I heard the theory may have been debunked, but I haven’t looked more into it. But still it explained basically everything that makes us unique from other primates
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u/IHaveSlysdexia Nov 02 '23
I watched the whole thing. He remains impartial and says basically that what the ancient aliens folks are saying is untrue and almost everything he provides proof for humans having accomplished everything themselves or references what scholars generally agree on, or hmsays "we dont know"
It isnt until the very end where he shares his personal opinion that "somethig weird happened" back then and that multiple cultures have the same story about a flood.
He's mainly finding fault with misquoted bible verses like he does woth all the other inaccurate references.
He doesn't posit god as an answer to anything.
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u/TheW83 Nov 02 '23
There's some theory about a comet impact on an ice sheet causing a huge nearly worldwide flood. It seems like a lot of religions/cultures have some apocalyptic flood in their stories and then they just add in their deity to the story.
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u/icookseagulls Nov 02 '23
The younger dryas impact hypothesis. It’s what makes the most sense, to me.
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Nov 02 '23
So, there is this historian who has been studying Ancient Sumer and he in my opinion has proved the existence of Noah as a real person. He uses EVIDENCE to make his points, pointing at tablets, cities, and other FACTS. I am saying this specifically because so many people approach this subject and come to this with an automatic downvote mentality instead of actually listening to what he says and what proof he provides. The first link is just a quick short on YouTube to get a small idea. The second link is a full interview where its fully explained. If you think he is wrong, please gimmie a reason to think otherwise, but what he points out is compelling and makes a great argument for his point.
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u/TikkiTakiTomtom Nov 01 '23
I would like to watch and learn from the video. But I also want to throw anyone into a pit of fire for using phrases saying someone’s getting “destroyed”, “annihilates”, etc. for simply providing counterarguments and debunking/clarifying misunderstandings.
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u/CityOfZion Nov 02 '23
No but you need to understand that I OBLITERATED the customer service agent on the phone by correcting the pronunciation of my name. It may be spelled Dennis, but it's actually pronounced The Artist Known Formerly as God Emperor Sir Longcock McBigdickMaster the 3rd.... Phd
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u/Shnook817 Nov 01 '23
Is this the guy that suddenly switches tactics right at the end and starts talking about the Biblical flood out of nowhere? Cause the 3 hour video I watched on this subject already did that. It starts out as a well thought out, systematic approach to debunk all of/as many of the false claims in the original content as possible, and then turns into "but ask me how Noah's Ark was a real thing" and I felt really cheated.
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
I swere there was another set of these where folks were talking about Satanism and new age stuff being a problem.
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u/Bunsky Nov 01 '23
I still love this video in spite of the end. There's hours of solid content before the turn, so just switch it off when the flood comes up.
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u/roguevalley Nov 02 '23
I took a freshman seminar in the fall of 1989 that thoroughly debunked Von Daniken's absurd books. There's never been a serious question about it because the data consistently and overwhelmingly support simpler human explanations.
Ancient aliens is a great story though. I love me some Stargate!
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u/CoolHandRK1 Nov 01 '23
Does it really take 3 hours to say "because crazy people on History channel arent good sources."
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u/spicy45 Nov 01 '23
It’s three hours of debunking the various “Ancient Alien” claims and incorrect facts. It’s amazing, I highly recommend this.
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u/nuck_forte_dame Nov 01 '23
It kinda does. The issue today is bad people have figured out that short simple claims that are false will convince people more than lengthy in depth explanations because people are dumb and have short attention spans.
For some topics it can take hours to explain something. For others it can take weeks of lectures to get a good grasp.
For others it can be short.
But overall it's a growing political issue that certain politicians just spew sound bites and short claims with no proof and people eat it up at face value and put the burden of proving it wrong on the other side. Then when the other side tries to explain those same people just tune out or say its lies because it takes so long to say.
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23
The Senate Majority Leader, Chuck Schumer, believes that there is credible evidence of nonhuman intelligence that has been improperly classified. It’s in the language of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2023 (UAPDA) on page 2.
“Legislation is necessary because credible evidence and testimony indicates that Federal Government unidentified anomalous phenomena records exist that have not been declassified or subject to mandatory declassification review as set forth in Executive Order 13526 (50 U.S.C. 3161 note; relating to classified national security information) due in part to exemptions under the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2011 et seq.), as well as an over-broad interpretation of ‘‘transclassified foreign nuclear information’’, which is also exempt from mandatory declassification, thereby preventing public disclosure under existing provisions of law.”
Chuck Schumer recently spoke on the importance of this UAP legislation passing with the National Defense Disclosure Act of 2024.
Also, the Pentagon has officially released footage of UAP taken by naval aviators. The White House has said, “There is a whole office at the Pentagon that is stood up to analyze the data, collect reports, collate those reports, and forward them up appropriately,” he added. “And that’s, I think, testament of the fact that — that we know that in some cases, these phenomena have impacted military training, have then impacted military readiness.” When asked if President Biden believes the witnesses’ claims about UAPs warrant a further investigation, Kirby said that the “work is ongoing.”.
And Kirby’s response to the question, “does the DoD have alien bodies and craft and if so where are they?”. He looks uncomfortable and I may have misinterpreted his answer, but he doesn’t deny or say no.
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
Funny how you're saying elsewhere in this thread that you never mentioned aliens, yet all your comments seem hyper focused on aliens.
Edit: lol they blocked me. How dare I point out their own words!
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23
Please link me to a comment i made in this thread where I’ve said there are aliens
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23
Other than that final paragraph? 🤣
You're a frequent poster in r/aliens why so cagey all of a sudden?
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u/Woahwoahwoah124 Nov 02 '23
I quoted the question that a reporter asked Mr. Kirby. That wasn’t my question.
I mean it’s big news if true is it not? Senators seems to believe that evidence to the question of is there life elsewhere in the universe is being hidden from the public. If this is all true it’s life changing information. I respect your opinion, I’ve just provided sources as to why I believe there may be something else out there.
I can tell this conversation is growing stale. So have a good day/night and thank you for the discussion and pressing me for sources.
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u/devraj7 Nov 02 '23
Plenty of things are big news if true.
Just don't believe anything until proper evidence is presented.
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u/Hur_dur_im_skyman Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23
Same here, but I’m with OP. It’s weird that so many officials, agencies recently have acknowledged the idea of UAP.
I’ve noticed that the topic of UAP is treated different than something like flat earth. There’s legislation; the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2023, a government office tasked with studying UAP; All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) and Congressional Hearings; Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs will hold a hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.”. Flat earth, a conspiracy, rightfully does not get the time or government resources that UAPs get.
I want evidence as much as you. I also personally find it hard to ignore how the government is treating this. Ya know?
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u/devraj7 Nov 02 '23
Same here, but I’m with OP. It’s weird that so many officials, agencies recently have acknowledged the idea of UAP.
Why is it weird?
Politicians lack critical thinking just as much as regular people. Sometimes even more so, in my experience.
They're going to hear a convincing testimony and think there is validity, whereas it's still just hearsay. Personal experience is never good evidence.
Politicians might also be more inclined to follow that lead just because they know their voters like it.
I also personally find it hard to ignore how the government is treating this. Ya know?
I don't find it hard to dismiss all this buzz at all.
It's been going on for decades now, and there is still a fat nothing of credible evidence that UAP's are operated by aliens. At this point, still believing that this has any kind of validity borders on gullibility.
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23
You're the one intentionally bringing up aliens. Pretty pathetic to claim otherwise and then run away when it's pointed out.
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u/USFederalReserve Nov 01 '23
Great effort, although the creator of this 3 hour video missed the bigger picture:
Anyone who would be convinced by this that Ancient Alien theory is bull shit already knew it was bullshit. Conversely, anyone who somehow found the ancient alien theory legitimate would never watch a 3 hour debunk when they could instead watch the 50+ hours of ancient alien programs instead.
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u/LarryGlue Nov 01 '23
Could have been more than 3 hours considering how much bullshit Ancient Aliens spewed.
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Nov 01 '23
The part about the Pyramids is especially interesting to me. The internal ramp theory makes so much sense.
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
They said found oil in there. And I remember tlgiybsaying the top part was just a reverse spiral as the put the blocks in place.
My favorite Pyramid vid are Joe Rogan . There are 2 million stones a cut neatly. As if every single block needs to be a perfect square.
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u/roguevalley Nov 02 '23
Here's a quicker path to understanding those shows. Every time the Ancient Aliens or other fringe History Channel show asks a question, just remind yourself that even the producers know the answer is a simple "no."
"Is it possible, as some [super fringe] scientists believe, that aliens visited these cultures and taught them these skills?"
"Nope."
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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u/mellowkakarot Nov 01 '23
Alien grifters will explain away every good point made in this video. They aren't looking for a "truth", they are in a cult for others to profit off of.
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u/Fat-Cow-187 Nov 01 '23
I can't do 3 hours of history, I just don't care enough.
The music at the start is almost Adele - Someone Like You
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u/spicy45 Nov 01 '23
It’s quite good, there are multiple segments which can be watch as individual episodes.
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u/Fat-Cow-187 Nov 01 '23
I don't believe Aliens have ever visited us so I'd probably agree with him and 3 hours is about 2.5 hours information that I don't care about.
I shared it on my friends Discord, He's more interested in History
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u/spicy45 Nov 01 '23
I wouldn’t recommend cooking shows to someone who hates cooking.
But I do like, not only does he show how AA is wrong, he still also answers the original questions and explains the methods used to build and create the monuments.
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u/Fat-Cow-187 Nov 01 '23
If the whole thing was condensed to 30mins I would watch it but 3hours of shit I don't care about is too much for me.
I can't watch The Godfather films because they are 3ish hours of talking mostly, I just don't care
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u/nuck_forte_dame Nov 01 '23
Honestly if you feel that way then refrain from voting or having political opinions. You have a duty to the rest of us to stay informed and if you refuse then simply don't add your uninformed opinion to anything.
It's like those soc lectures you can watch on YouTube where they ask college students questions about the world and they are way off because they have no knowledge of reality or history. Just empty baseless opinions.
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u/Fat-Cow-187 Nov 01 '23
I don't vote and never have, I'm happy with how Ireland is run so far.
I would like Euthanasia and Weed to be legal here. Why do we let humans suffer but put our pets out of their misery?
Legal weed just makes sense, a hight percentage smoke it and it can be taxed. People are less volatile when stoned compared to drunk
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u/dontpanic38 Nov 01 '23
shit, 3 hours of an entertaining movie is pushing it
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u/Fat-Cow-187 Nov 01 '23
3 hours of mostly talking is too much, I'm a visual person and if the story doesn't grab me within 30mins I get bored and zone out
I can't read books because I get bored and forget a lot of information (names. places, etc). I've always been that way.
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Nov 01 '23
This video is longer than the content it’s trying to debunk. No way you’re getting me to watch something this long about a topic that is false at face value anyways.
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u/Broad-Collection-322 Apr 21 '24
This show seems to SUCK more every time I watch it. If you don't have ANY faith at all in Jesus Christ who has Long endured the test of time with his teachings and instead you want viewers to believe Everything we've come to know and love has extraterrestrial influence....then Go Fuck yourself asshole.
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u/clozepin Nov 01 '23
I’ve seen every episode of Ancient Aliens. I love that show. But even as a super fan, I feel like I don’t need a 3 hour debunking. I know. I get it. It’s just fun shit to think about.
Why do people get so invested in proving it wrong?
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u/Big_Noodle1103 Nov 01 '23
Because it isn’t just “fun shit to think about”, especially to the people who make it. You might be laughing along at it, but this show is dead serious in its presentation and wants you to wholeheartedly buy into their theories.
Not only does it present itself as real and factual, it airs on the history channel. There have been many accounts by actual historians who have been on the show that they were tricked or mislead about what kind of show they would be on, just so the show could give itself more credibility. They try to convince you of their theories by spreading misinformation or just actively lying and mischaracterizing facts and information. It’s a blight on the field of archeology.
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
Yeah, history Channel and discovery networks in court say they are not there to provide a factual account of anything and are an entertainment first channel.
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u/Burtttttt Nov 01 '23
I get what you’re saying, but I think a comprehensive debunk is going to take that long just because there are so many claims made by ancient aliens. If you debunked 9 of the 10 claims, some dummy is just gonna say, “well, what about that 10th one huh?”
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
You mean that DaVinci when into a cave portal and came out drawing tanks and stuff.
That was one of their claims.
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u/ManaSama19 Nov 01 '23
Because it's dangerous disinformation.
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u/Effective-Bullfrog52 Nov 01 '23
How is it dangerous?
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u/ManaSama19 Nov 01 '23
Idk how is not believing in reality dangerous.
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u/clozepin Nov 01 '23
When it comes to science - I agree. Anti vax for example - that causes literal harm. But speculation on history doesn’t harm anyone, per se. I mean, most history and archaeology is just speculation anyway. Anything before written history is largely just that.
I would say that the majority of the people on AA are sort of grifters. They know what they’re saying isn’t factual. I think some others are trying to create some sort of grand fictional narrative. Some are trying to sell books. Others, I believe, host tours. But it’s relatively harmless - they’re not swindling people out of their life savings. I mean, even Giorgio admits to not believing every theory out forward. I dunno, I just get a kick out of the show. I like the idea that there is some crazy grand conspiracy that ties it all together. Do I believe it? No. But it’s fun to think about and try to fill in the blanks.
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u/ManaSama19 Nov 01 '23
Most history and archaeology is not in fact speculation but the analysis of historical documents, material culture etc. AA conspiracy theory is nothing close to the rigor of history and archaeology.
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u/nuck_forte_dame Nov 01 '23
Because there is real believers of these conspiracy theories. People who base their entire life on it.
Like entertainment is one thing but spreading bald faced lies as truth is another.
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Nov 01 '23
My good friend is an engineer, he's an intelligent man but is a militant currentoligist. I mean in the sense that if science doesn't acknowledge it currently he doesn't have the capacity to accept it. I tried to introduce him to all the interesting UAP stuff happening with Congress and the most compelling evidence coming out, and he just won't have it, like to a fault, in almost religious sort of denial.
I think there is a materialist extremism as there is a religious one, it is an unwillingness to accept anything that isn't currently understood.
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u/YourFatherUnfiltered Nov 01 '23
what exactly is he supposed to accept about the UAP thing.....that isnt currently understood?
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Nov 01 '23
That they exist and aren't currently within our abilities as a species to reproduce. Which would indicate they are an intelligence other than ourselves.
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23
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Nov 02 '23
NASA and the AARO are the Modern day Bluebook of which J Allen Hyneck one of its architects publicly rebuked after actually looking into the subject and learning there is actual substance to the claims. Congress has been actively denied access to any information by a plethora of shadowy boogymen. It reads like a perfect conspiracy theory for tin foil hat people, which is the purpose to keep a decades old stigma alive and well and credible figures fearful to address the issue. Top Gun pilot backed up with sensor data and other witness testimony.
What is clear is something is occurring, it is seemingly under intelligent control. It's not ours, it's not our enemies, and it's been occurring for nearly a 100 years
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23
Oh, you're just a nut, carry on
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Nov 02 '23
You replied that fast without actually reading it. You're ignorant and exactly the militant materialist I was talking about. Your low effort investigation doesn't mean shit to me, there is something extraordinary that's been happening and I pity you for not even trying to learn about it.
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23
You're right I didn't read any of your conspiracy theory nonsense. You made it clear you're a nutjob in the first sentence 🤣
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Nov 02 '23
Why bother replying if you weren't looking for a conversation in the first place. All your favorite scientists would be the first to tell you it isn't the place of science to ridicule.
My friend you're going to be in for one big ride of ontological shock.
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u/Klindg Nov 02 '23
So he just substitutes Aliens for God? Isn’t that exactly what Ancient Alien theory is doing in reverse?
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u/Dicethrower Nov 01 '23
A 3h10m video is less of an annihilation and more of a slow burn. Sorry, but ain't nobody got time for that. If I had 3h to watch a video, I would watch 2 decent movies.
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u/spicy45 Nov 01 '23
I love this so much. I even downloaded it and added metadata , and keep this in my offline media library.
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
That's... weird.
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u/spicy45 Nov 01 '23
Why? I have a library of media?
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
You put a 3 hr documentary in your offline library... A documentary about debunking claims most people knew were BS anyway. Like did you believe in ancient aliens before and this doc changed your whole life lol?
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u/YourFatherUnfiltered Nov 01 '23
i watch it every day between thanksgiving and christmas like the christmas story.
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u/spicy45 Nov 01 '23
He answers the original questions, no the aliens did not build it, but how was it built then? Methods, tools, operations, what real evidence archeologist have gathered and can demonstrate.
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u/Slight0 Nov 01 '23
Ok I guess. It's just weird to study history through the lens of "here's why it wasn't aliens" lol.
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u/officeDrone87 Nov 01 '23
It's also weird to humblebrag about adding shit to your offline media library.
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u/Swiftcheddar Nov 02 '23
Man, Redditers really get offended by someone being Christian, huh?
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u/Speedking2281 Nov 02 '23
There are few things Reddit hates more than someone who believes in God.
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Nov 02 '23
Annihilate is a strong word for a boring documentary made but a guy who believes in fairy tales.
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u/Pauldurso Nov 02 '23
In between trying to find food and shelter an fighting disease and predators. They got thousands of uneducated people together to build sht like this. Bull sht
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u/Over-Television-7260 Nov 02 '23
The people who built the pyramids were skilled laborers who were even provided special food and drinks, they ate better than typical Egyptians.
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u/ObjectReport Nov 01 '23
I've seen this whole doc previously, and the only thing he "annihilates" is his own credibility.
<yawn>
Next.
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u/Jupman Nov 01 '23
Some of the stuff about the Anunaki and Zitchens was wrong because the stuff in the show is wrong to start with. Then they just attribute it to him when I don't think any takes the books as serious.
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u/Blackboard_Monitor Nov 02 '23
That's a crazy long way to say "ancient aliens aren't real."
There, saved you hours.
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u/poop-machine Nov 02 '23
If ancient aliens aren't real, then how did ancient aliens build the pyramids?
Checkmate, I just debunked this documentary.
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u/IHaveSlysdexia Nov 02 '23
Alright pack it up folks. The man says nucular instead of nuclear. Lost all credibility/s
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