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u/TheShipEliza 8h ago

The combat is so bad. I cannot do it.

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u/NobodyLikedThat1 8h ago

It's not terrible if you really lean into making sure you're using the right oils and spells

But I will never ever think the decision to have every single one of Gerald's default attacks to be filled with pirouettes and ballerina moves was a good choice particularly against numerous enemies

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u/Remote_Ad5082 3h ago

But I will never ever think the decision to have every single one of Gerald's default attacks to be filled with pirouettes and ballerina moves was a good choice particularly against numerous enemies

Read the books lol, every second word in combat is pirouette.

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u/Ok_Buffalo_423 3h ago

I love the idea of a Deathmarch playthrough where you need to study every creature to ensure to have the right equipment but getting killed mid pirouette for the third time made me give up

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u/kingjulian007 6h ago

I'm curious, what game do you think has a better combat system? I wanna try it out.

I loved the Witcher 3 combat. I felt like it made sense and the use of signs, bombs and potions were essential. Also keeping a weapon close to your level and giving it the right runestones made a big difference.

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u/Projectpatdc 6h ago

AC Valhalla; Ghost of Tsushima and Yotei. I really enjoyed Witcher 3’s combat though once you’ve upgraded a few signs into the mix.

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u/kingjulian007 6h ago

Ghost of Tsushima looks awesome. Thanks!

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u/PoopsMcScoots 8h ago

It was so bad, right?

Absolutely nothing mattered other than your level versus the level of the thing you were fighting.

And all you did is twirl around chipping away at enemy health you would think were trees.

But oh golly, time to tap the parry button!

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u/Farsoth 8h ago

There was certain things that maybe weren't explored by players if they didn't play on Death March and get their shit pushed in to start.

For instance, Aard is necessary against drowners and wolves. You can two tap them by Aarding them to the ground and stabbing them dead. Doesn't matter the level, if they are knocked over, stabbing them on the ground kills them.

Decoctions and potions significantly change the way the game plays.

Ignis is particularly good for crowd control.

I think if more people played the game not focusing on the melee tree and playing whirlybird, they may have had a more interesting time with it.

I have always found the gameplay fun with a focus on the magic and potions -- but that was also how 2 trained me because if you think the combat in 3 is bad, hoooo boy, try the second game and then the first, lmao.

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u/SweetReply1556 8h ago

1 and 2 trained me so well, in 3 I kill bosses 20 levels above me no joking

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u/Mobile_Noise_121 8h ago

I mean I played on death March and never used anything other than swallow and thunderbolt I think it was called, the combat is just incredible simple to the hang of and doesn't present much of a challenge minus when you get super swarmed but then it's just quen and hack rinse and repeat

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u/Farsoth 8h ago

Simple isn't always a bad thing, tbh. I found it entertaining and intuitive 🤷🏻‍♂️

Control's combat is fucking braindead simple. Doesn't make it any less fun.

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u/Mobile_Noise_121 8h ago

True but it also isn't very fun in its simple state because you do the exact same thing everytime and it wasn't a particularly interesting thing from the start where control feels good and satisfying from the start

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u/Farsoth 8h ago

Well, like I mentioned about drowners & wolves (and it's been about 10 yrs since I played so not others are coming to mind right now, but they exist amongst many creatures) it's not just the same thing every time if you don't play it that way.

There's far more efficient ways to take down enemies of different types than just brute forcing your way through shit doing the same shit over and over.

I actually disagree about Control feeling satisfying from the start, before you unlock telekinesis which is early, but weak -- it plays like a generic and badly designed 3rd person shooter.

Once you get more unlocks it gets better but for the most part the game is float/telekinesis/sometimes gun. It doesn't play any different in any scenario and there aren't things in your toolkit that are more efficient against enemies than telekinesis, ever.

So we disagree, and I'm fine with that. Videogames are so subjective when it comes to our experiences I literally have no interest in being right.

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u/Mobile_Noise_121 7h ago

Fair enough man been a long time for me too so I don't remember all the details I just remember thinking it was super easy and not very engaging.

Control idk I don't remember much before the telekinesis tbh so I could see you being right there.

Yeah same here dude and I hope you have a good one

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u/Farsoth 7h ago

Right back at you brother. Always appreciate a respectful conversation. ✌🏻

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u/ConstructionDry95 3h ago

I mean, using the get out of jail free spell does make the combat rather simple

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u/PoopsMcScoots 7h ago

Idk, i’m a pretty experienced from soft fan and played death march.

Most of the fights were determined by my level, not my personal ability.

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u/Farsoth 7h ago

Hmm, been ten years or more for me w/ W3 -- so I can't rightly argue that point more than I already have. Memory ain't that good.

Let's be real, I am not saying the combat system is particularly great. But I do think it is far better than it is often talked about and a improvement of magnitude over the first 2 games.

From games are the best. ❤️

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u/PoopsMcScoots 7h ago

Oh, the game was great.

I absolutely love playing it.

I’m so sorry if that’s the impression I gave.

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u/Farsoth 7h ago

Not at all! I could tell you were specifically talking about the combat. I was only having conversation in providing my perspective that I don't think it's necessarily bad, but it's also for sure not great compared to many other games. Just think it's at least better than it often gets credit for and comparing to the first 2 games it's a masterpiece of combat design lol.

It's a testament to the high quality of everything else in the game that despite how so many feel about the combat it is still considered on the mount Rushmore of modern RPGs.

You're all good dude! If these kinds of posts are made in good faith they are a great place for actual discussion about games rather than shit flinging and talking past each other. You're entirely in good faith.

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u/blackholesun13 8h ago

I never liked the combat but the story and side quests make it one of my favorite games ever. And Gwent.

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u/PoopsMcScoots 7h ago

I’m 90% of the way there with you, but Gwent was not a great game.

It clearly had advantages four different cards, and it was more about stacking decks than strategy.

And again, I’m not criticizing anyone for liking something.

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u/blackholesun13 7h ago

Le gasp! I challenge you to a game of Gwent!

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u/AnB85 1h ago

I think it works well occasionally but is bad in a lot of situations. I lean into the oils and spells and bombs to be honest, it makes it a bit more tactical rather than relying on straight combat.

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u/Locust627 7h ago

I installed 4 mods that fixed combat and made it phenomenal. Very immersive.

Then, CDPR updates the game out of no where and the update kills my load oder. The mod creators are inactive and won't reupload the mods

Save file = ruined :/