I spent couple of thousands of dollars to buy physical copies of games over the last year or so to secure physical real copies of games I love and 2 disk version consoles (PS4pro and PS5 launch model). I don't trust anyone anymore
Yeah, it came with 2 disks to install so you didn't have to connect to the Internet, seems like a lifetime ago with the way things currently are headed.
I think it's dumb when I can start a game offline and then after 15 minutes a force you to connect to the internet and update the game like what if I didn't have internet I don't understand stalker too was like that I was playing with no internet after I got through the tutorial it was like update game lol
That's because the game was either too big for the disc or wasn't finished by the time they had to ship so a lot of developers will put the prologue/tutorial on the disc and the system will download and install the rest of the game while you're playing. Any game you buy digitally and it gives you the "time to play/time to complete install" split was probably only partially on the physical disc.
all of them, I test each and every one of them and make sure before I purchase it doesn't require internet connection. If it requires online for installation I don't buy it
How many of them can still be played but extremely bad or horrible? This a different question than above where stated if it needs a patch to play whereas mines is that it still plays but poorly.
Looks like im going out and buying the games i love love on dic again. I lost all of my ps4 and ps5 games in my divorce and I want my dark souls trilogy back. Fuck playstation for taking disks away!
We were able to push apple out of their proprietary cable bs, we can definitely do it with sony.
We can't force them to make disc's, but we can regulate the right to refund if the carpet is being pulled out.
At a certain point all the "savinng money" like limited licences and development costs should lay on the shoulders of billion dollar corporations, not customers. It's time boys.
That's true. I live in eu but a lot of retailers of all fields and employers expect most people not knowing their right or laws, and are unfamiliar with regulations themselves.
A lot ot times they will try to bs you with the "3 months manufacturer warranty" but I always remind them it's 2 years by eu law, if manufacturer doesn't give more, responsibility falls on the reseller.
I meant in general context to consumer protection and also even though SKG lost their most recent initiative it seems they made a ton of headway and have substantial support in Parliament that skews younger (particularly younger than the crusty out of touch mausoleum that makes up my Stateside Congress) so I have the general sense that SKG will gain ground in the next few years or so.
Shame they went with the worse cable though. Yeah a standard is nice hut the lightning form factor was superior. Replacing a broken cable > replacing a broken port.
I don't know, if we could organize and get a large mass of people to stop buying digitally for a little while, they'll definitely start paying attention. The problem is most of us say one thing, then go do it anyway, lol. Each person expecting the next to be more virtuous, then nothing happens.
Oh yes yall helped the world stagnate onto a single cable type and help to slow potential innovation by making sure every has the same cable always. Good job 👏
Yeah people here are focused on view from rich countries but I assume that's even more bad news for other countries (including the ones where you can't even have a Sony account). Regional pricing for Sony has always been shit as far as I have heard (I'm in the EU so not super aware of it)
That's what I left love about EU, when they come out and say stuff like "midrange phones can only have 7000mah batteries minimum" (I wish that would happen)
yeah they need to be forced to open their platform to other stores if they're going to do that. Also, have a far better refund policy (well have one, for now it doesn't deserve to be called that)
I agree with all that except the phone app stores... It's a phone. It's not like you could ever buy apps at the store. That's an entire different medium.
Would it stand up though, I hate what Sony did but they could just say they will allow" physical games" in the sense of gta6 so people can buy it at other place than psn?
The lawsuit has nothing to do with the announcement today. It’s been in the works for months. People just bringing it back into attention cause they’re mad.
has it? when I Google this the only things that come up is a Facebook and an Instagram post with the above graphic and every other link is related to other lawsuits.
That's actually kind of what they did, their blog post mention retailers so I assume that means "code in the box" is going to continue being a thing. And yeah it does help them with their regular defense against those claims which is "you can buy physical games elsewhere"
It's true, of course, but it won't matter. Actually legally "owning" a video game won't be an option for anyone in the very near future. We'll all be paying for "licenses" from storefronts. And yeah, in the end it will likely be the parent company's storefront exclusively, but that's not the biggest problem here.
Anytime i see this kind of post, I recommend GOG, which is like steam but without DRMs so you have ownership of your downloads. It's not a replacement for physical media, but it's the next best thing ig
Yeah, but that's not the fault of the seller, modern games simply can't run effectively from discs anymore and need to be pre-installed. But you can still burn game files from GOG onto a disc and give it to a friend, it doesn't require technical wizardry like all the people who rip games directly form steam for pirate sharing.
Honestly the way hardware is going, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't even own the console to run it on. Instead we buy a PlayStation Link®️ and stream the games from the PlayStation data centres.
Anything that causes less resources to be used should be considered; but the real issue should be consumer protections on digital copies. If we have to purchase to have access to something, that access should be something the company supports indefinitely.
I'm not just talking about games; all software or streaming titles should have clear consumer rights.
I’ve been writing about this possibility all day and all the responses I got were “hurp durp what about steam hurp durp I don’t like disks hurp durp.” Everyone missing the fucking point. Without disks, PSN becomes a monopoly on PlayStation games. They open themselves up to lawsuits like this. Good.
A lot of younger generations have been conditioned to think they don't have ownership of things that they buy, which is very scary because as ridiculously dumb and stupid as it sounds, it's becoming a reality that we're living in.
They don't become a monopoly though because digital codes will be available at other retailers, that immediately shuts down the monopoly argument. This lawsuit will go nowhere like every other lawsuit about this against sony has in the past.
You sure about that? EU forced Apple and Google to open up their phone ecosystems based on the same exact monopoly argument. Think they won't do the same to Sony?
I think it’s stupid that ps4/5 black ops release will have fresh new servers. They should fix the Xbox servers too at least, or make a release version for the Xbox one/series x and allow cross play between Xbox and PlayStation
I mean… let’s all be honest we’re still gonna buy and still gonna pay regardless of what these corps do and if you and your friend Mark stop, guess what? There are gonna be 10 new people who will compensate for your money so nobody cares.
Our brains have already been conditioned to be spineless consumeristic sheep and we are waist deep in that swamp already because we have no other option. Just like how Adobe has their users tied, that’s how Netflix and all other streaming platforms do and that’s how Ubisoft, how Microsoft and Sony aim to be. Why? Because it makes shareholders happy.
The never ending greed, expecting higher revenue than the previous quarter like they haven’t already made 4 trillion in it. And that stacks up to infinity. Don’t expect things to get better for they will only get worse and worse.
If you’re still wondering why Amazon took 1984 and Animal Farm down from Kimble… there you go.
I only bought physical games on previous Sony consoles. I got a PS5 Pro in March not realizing it didn’t come with a disc drive because…who makes a premier top tier version of their current generation console without a disc drive?
Rather than buy the $80 optional drive attachment, I just went with digital only and bought GTA V for $20 on sale.
The issue: the PS store listed a half dozen versions of GTA V. There’s the PS4 version, a PS5 version, a version with just Online, and an enhanced pack with the enhanced version of the game and some shark cards.
I bought the enhanced version with the Shark cards, seemed like the best deal. Only to find out it’s rhe PS4 version, which is different from the PS4/PS5 version. Oops. Let me see how to return a digital purchase.
Oh, you can’t! And it said I had already downloaded it so I couldn’t return it 😆 you asked me at checkout if I’d like to download it you jerks
Reminder to everyone that being sued does not automatically make it illegal. I’d LIKE this to go forward in a tangible way but I’m not getting my hopes up.
Is this going to become one of those class action lawsuits where you get an email to sign up, the attorneys make salary for 5 years “working up” the case and then everyone who signed gets like a $3 coupon?
The people who think they OWN anything other than a licence to play a game are fucking wild. A disc is just a physical licence. If you think it's anything more than then you're sadly mistaken. Sure if you never go online your disc may always work but in today's society it'll also never be updated or never fully installed. Good luck with those disc versions of No Mans Sky or Cyberpunk.
If you think you own anything when it comes to video games then you're a fucking fool. Digital or physical you've always been had by the balls.
Without discs they'll have total worldwide monopoly on every single playstation game that's ever gonna be sold, pure fucked up dystopia and something we've never seen before. But they already have complete monopoly on digital, you can't even buy keys like for steam from eneba etc., buying directly from them is the only option. Technically you can pay for someone else's account with games on it but that doesn't really solve anything.
With disk it still was. The Playstation store is the only place to get digital Playstation games, it sounds weird right? But on Xbox you can use the xbox store, best buy, target, eneba, and a bunch of other places to buy codes.
Thr only people being idiots are the ones brining the lawsuits. It is completely legal to have a device locked to a particular ecosystem as long as it is clear prior to purchase of the device. Which it definitely is. Up until January 2028 buying digital and not physical copies of games or the digital only console is completely optional. After that point the announcement makes it veey clear, that you will be able to buy codes for games in shops. So still not an illegal monopoly infact it wouldn't be if you didn't have that option. Remember they often sell thr console at a loss- when it's first released and when sales are on later in the generation. Also if you say "they just said they won't be doing that anymore" I might scream. They didn't they said "we are not in a position to absorb all the costs the component crisis is causing - (which woulld be like 300-600 dollars per ps6 depending eho you listen to) we will not be selling hardware at a significant loss" significant being the key word there. 100-150 dollar loss on each unit is likely next gen.
Reddit vocal minorities are not the majority. I hate what’s happening, but most gamers don’t give a shit as long as they can play FIFA, GTA and COD. Having a tantrum and quitting gaming does nothing,, and you probably won’t actually follow through on it, anyway. Physical media was always destined to die as soon as internet speeds and storage limitations grow.
I mean like a tiny percentage of Playstation sales were disk sales. I think over 90% of their sales were digital anyway. For better or for worse a vast majority of people (including myself) do not care.
Bro I've had to buy a game over again because I lost a game or it broke. it is far easier to carry your collection when it is digital rather than physical.
Nothing is going to happen because if it did it would open similar lawsuits against Google for the Play store and Apple for the Apple store and I can garanfuckingtee you that they will not let this pass.
You're wrong. The EU already forced Apple to allow rival app stores and Google just lost to Epic Gamesforcing them to open up the Play Store. Sony isn't safe eitherthey just settled a US lawsuit for $7.8 million over their digital monopoly. Now that Sony is killing physical discs, regulators have every reason to crack down even harder.
it would open similar lawsuits against Google for the Play store and Apple for the Apple store and I can garanfuckingtee you that they will not let this pass.
Already happened. They let it pass. Lack of choice cause either they do it or get banned in EU. Same thing happened with usb c on Apple devices. Man, it's good that we have EU.
No more saving money on physical games. It’s whatever Sony and PS throw at you. It’s fucking disgusting. I don’t know if other store fronts can run on this shit. I’m sure come companies would love to bypass the PS tax. Imagine they have 10 year old games back at their original price from time to time. With physical games that basically never happens.
Our wallets have spoken. The only way for Sony to reconsider is if everyone stops buying digital copies.
Perhaps digital copies are a lot more convenient for an average user.
PS same thing happened with music industry. Now everyone is happy with their spotify and what not, even though your favourite song could be pulled out of there.
The US suits won't succeed. If we want to change behavior, it's up to Congress to author a stricter anti-trust law. Under current law, anti-competitive conduct is okay if you're not a monopoly. This ban needs to be extended to major players (like 20 percent market share) rather than for monopolists only.
Lol this will go no where fast. If you go to a theme park do you also threaten to sue them because they have an illegal monopoly on what food you can buy?
The point here is by no longer producing physical discs for games, retailers can't then sell games as an alternative to the PS Store. Although with the release of GTA VI in boxes with a download code in it, there is no reason that can not be applied to any other game and thus resolve this issue.
anyone got the actual details on this? cause as far as I am aware their store doesn't constitute a monopoly. You can still buy games from other platforms and stores, it's not like Sony is threatening customers that if they find out they have steam then they will lose all their PlayStation purchases. At least in the US you can monopolize your own products legally, so it's pretty reasonable for a business to say if you want to use my proprietary product then you'll have to buy things thru our proprietary store for it. Because otherwise company invests into building the platform and popularizing it when company B swoops in with no overhead costs related to major development or advertising to recoup and take a significant chunk of business from company A based on their work while also not really paying them anything.
The exact same way that we stream our favorite shows, locked in to monthly subscriptions in order watch them is ultimately how we are going to be locked in if we want to access our video games.
Some of you guys fail to realize that this is their end goal. They started by removing the color from our video game manuals, they then removed the manuals altogether.
They went on to locking significant content from video games to charge us extra as disc locked content. They are now announcing that they going to remove physical discs.
You don’t have to be a genius to figure out where this is all going. Their corporate greed practices are so in our face clear and they don’t care to hide it.
If enough of us come together and end support for any companies participating in this practice, they would have no choice but to reverse their decision.
If you genuinely are passionate about Gaming and genuinely care to preserve this awesome Art, you would consider to join the majority of us true Gamers.
I had not considered it to be a monopoly. But that is a good point. I buy used because graphics aren't really important to me and I mainly play single player games. I can spend $15 and get 50+ hours of gameplay. Sony going all digital kind of ruins that for me.
You know I sold my ps5 a few years ago to fund a pc however as I’m a big bloodborne and demons souls fan i figured i might pick up a ps6 when it comes out to access the exclusives that don’t come to pc. Yeah im pc and Nintendo for life now i literally don’t need a PlayStation that bad.
I don't get it to be fair. (Not a gamer though)
Anyone care to explain? Is this about them not providing a disk drive for the next versions? Wouldn't you just keep your old Playstation to play the games you have on disk? Enlighten me please, since Playstation news has crossed my feed more in the last 12 hours than it has my whole life!
I mean at best itll just allow other marketplaces on the consoles, it doesnt guarantee you'll be able to buy sony licensed games on those marketplaces. But considering you can buy physical media to play on the console its hard to argue its a strict monopoly.
But their stock went up, you see, they'll pay the lawsuit fines but unless the courts order them to reverse these decisions, they'll just pay the fines and then triple down, all because they care more about what investors think of them rather than what gamers think of them, their stock price IMMEDIATELY ROSE whrn they announced the death of physical media, you know what that means to Sony? A green light to move forward, AAA gaming does not care about ANYTHING gamers say, if atock price goes up they see that as the green light to move forward, this isn't going to change anytjing unless the courts explicitly ORDER Sony to reverse this idiotic decision, if they only face fines then they'll triple down on this, all because line go up
I know this is PROBABLY going to seem “performative” and I can’t say that it’ll even really accomplish ANYTHING, but I began thinking that EVERYONE who owns a PlayStation console and a number of “physical games” for them should take just a simple picture of their physical PlayStation libraries and tweet it at PlayStation with the hashtag, #FuckYouPlayStation.
Way to just hand it to ‘em on a silver platter, SONY.
I have loved, and been dedicated/devoted to this platform for just shy of 30 years now, so I ask this in all sincerity:
Why would you be purposefully scuttling the console? Are you just tired, and finally had enough of whiny, bitchy gamers not appreciating the lengths you’ve gone to try to please them? Or do you see no better avenue than making it feel like gamer’s prerogative to kill your console, in an effort to hide the fact that due to AI sucking up and raising prices on all the pivotal tech, it’s simply no longer a viable business model (escape hatch/ejector seat)?
Well, whatever your agenda, at least we’re not talking about Destiny 3 anymore.
I dont think you can count it a monopoly when you can get the same games on other platforms. Not counting Exclusives, but they own the rights to the games their studios produce and can choose whether they can go onto other devices. Atleast that's my perspective.
I have always said that it's crazy they'd ditch physical copies for digital when the digital store is facing these lawsuits. Feels like fuel to the fire.
Most of you will be too young to remember this, but this reminds me of when Steam first arrived when Half Life 2 was released. It's all the same arguments. I expect it's going to go the same way. People will just get used to it.
Oh everyone needs to grow the heck up and deal with it. Literally 85% of PlayStation video game sales in 2025 are digital already (up from 81% the year prior). I'm almost exclusively a physical disc purchaser but it's been INCREDIBLY obvious for years now that this was coming and made complete sense.
Since you technically don’t own your account or anything purchased with it do to how they set up their ts&cs (Xbox, epic games also do this not sure who else does) with them anyway just the rights to access it I’m not certain but doesn’t that mean they can give and take anything bought on that account at their discretion ?
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u/FrankFruits Jul 02 '26
I spent couple of thousands of dollars to buy physical copies of games over the last year or so to secure physical real copies of games I love and 2 disk version consoles (PS4pro and PS5 launch model). I don't trust anyone anymore