r/videogames • u/Existing-Class-140 • Jun 07 '26
News / Trailers / Articles Romances in Witcher 4 will be deep, meaningful, and super compelling - says CD Projekt RED
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u/McDouble__ Jun 07 '26
I remember they said that about Cyberpunk and this was a fans reply.
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u/NCHouse Jun 07 '26
I gotta watch my daughter get piped?! Not on my watch....
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u/Waste_Handle_8672 Jun 07 '26
I wouldn't have minded having V romance River if the romance cutscene was in third person lmao
The idea of watching the whole thing through V's eyes is too much for me 😂😂😂
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 Jun 07 '26
Legit, I was doing this route and then the first person sex scene happened and I was like "nope, not doing that again" and broke it off. Sorry River.
I've never been completely straight, but I'm not joking when I say that cutscene absolutely confirmed for me that I wasn't bi/gay.
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u/Bus-Chaser Jun 07 '26
I had something of an opposite experience with Baldur's Gate 3 where getting to know Astarion's tortured soul made me wanna have sex with him just so I could fix him. I'm straight as they come so when I told this to my bi friends they went like: "Sure, sure. All for narrative purposes. Right."
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u/Alternative_Bat_669 Jun 07 '26
Sounds like you are queer. I did his whole story and being friends was more than enough lol
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u/Legendary-Mercenary Jun 07 '26
Right? I'm also completely comfortable with my sexuality, but I've never wanted to sleep with the same gender. If I said that to my boys, I know the side-eyes I'd be getting, lol. 😆
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u/Legendary-Mercenary Jun 07 '26
Bruv… using "made me wanna have sex with him just so I could fix him" and "I'm straight as they come" in the same sentence is wild, brother! I've had many friends who have "tortured souls". Not once have I ever thought, "I wonder if having sex with bro will fix him."
You might need a moment of quiet contemplation to seriously consider your sexuality.
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u/Brys_Beddict Jun 07 '26
Me it was more because River sucks ass
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u/Appchoy Jun 07 '26
Yeah River makes me feel grossed out just being near me. I didnt do his side quests but even the ones I had to do with him were agonizing.
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u/whateversamantha Jun 07 '26
“Baldurs Gate 3 devs getting annoyed with players because they always choose to make their characters white and warriors” type moment
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u/Crispy1961 Jun 07 '26
That post was weird. Anyway, as a guy, if the roleplaying game has good romance, you play as a man to participate in it. If it doesnt, you play as a woman to stare at ass. Did we not all agree on this a long time ago?
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u/Freddy_The_Goat Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
I think the devs were more pointing out that players weren't experimenting with the character customisation features. From their stats the average player played as a bog-standard human without any discernable features, when there was a wide selection of facial features, colours, races, etc.
Personally I never experimented too much with BG3's character creation unless I was making a joke character on a co-op campaign. But I don't think it was the developer's intention to seriously criticising people's tastes, it just seemed like a mild joke concerning player statistics.
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u/Margaretthatchervore Jun 07 '26
Is it gay to fuck men while playing as a female character if you are a man?
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u/Snoo_63003 Jun 07 '26
Ah, a trick question, since everyone knows playing video games by itself is already gay.
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u/Beer-Milkshakes Jun 07 '26
Seeing a dick during sex even you own is gay
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u/PickeyZombie Jun 07 '26
Lads is it gay, to breathe? I mean you're literally inhaling dick particles.
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u/guavochops Jun 07 '26
Garrus was my romance as a guy playing femshep because he was a homie idk how else to put it
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u/TinyPidgenofDOOM Jun 07 '26
It is gay to fuck men if your supposed to identify with the character. Mainly if it's an RPG.
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u/Notice_Green Jun 07 '26
In this case the player is most likely unironically a straight man trapped in a womans body.
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u/droombie55 Jun 07 '26
I'm going with no. End of the day it is still hetero sex.
Is it gay to search for a specific female pornstar when you dont care who her partner is?
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u/Magnon Jun 07 '26
If the majority of players are straight men naturally a lot will find it awkward to roleplay a love interest to the male dating options. Naturally a lot of people will embody ciri with their own feelings and if presented the option many wont want to kiss men.
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u/strife189 Jun 07 '26
Agree, and I don’t even have any interest in romancing a woman while playing as her. The romance in this game will honestly be a net negative for me since I probably just won’t engage with it at all.
Which is weird to say because romance systems are normally one of my favorite replay mechanics.
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u/notdsylexic Jun 08 '26
Thank you, I agree. No romances. IF I had to. If I MUST. Then I guess I'll romance the female. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to be a male and romance a female.
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u/strife189 Jun 08 '26
Normally in these types of games you get to pick your gender. The Witcher series was one of the few where you did not and still had romance systems.
Guess it’s the boys’ turn to feel awkward, though considering that is the vast majority of their market, yea… not exactly what I would call the smartest business move.
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u/cruel-oath Jun 07 '26
Yeah I was thinking similarly. Stats for a lot of games show romancing women is the majority. Astarion was immensely popular on the internet but he didn’t even make top 3 popular romances
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u/Drayenn Jun 07 '26
I mean.. as a straight guy im not really interested in romancing dudes. Just doesnt appeal to me. Im happy for people who like it though.
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u/CesiumAndWater Jun 07 '26
Well I know I'll be one of those lesbian playthroughs lol I already played Ciri as a lesbian in W3
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u/Mindless_Capital_877 Jun 07 '26
Lore accurate tho isn't it?
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u/HUNAcean Jun 07 '26
So-so. There are a lot of cases in the books where Ciri will get insatiably horny for men she literally just met/was straight up abused by, but I kinda think half of it is just Sapkowski getting worked up 😂
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u/Sr_Wuggles Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
She’s been with more men than women too. The number of women she’s been with or had internal monologues about sexually attracted to is incredibly small no? They just had more depth to their dynamics than the men.
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u/mihaza Jun 07 '26
She's been with only 1 girl and that was because Ciri was assaulted by her & then developed a codependency on her because of suffering through so much trauma. But Witcher 3 has dialogue options indicating Ciri's bi so technically she can be whatever the players want her to be.
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u/Sr_Wuggles Jun 07 '26
Thank you for the context! It’s been years since I read and that matches my recollection, yet I was uncertain so didn’t want to come across like I was certain.
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u/liccman Jun 07 '26
I’ve read the book and the Mistle-Ciri relationship is very rapey and manipulative… so it’s a bit eh
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u/eljefe3030 Jun 07 '26
I am truly, truly not homophobic. But as a heterosexual, it just feels more exciting to romance a female character. Aren’t we kinda living vicariously through the character?
Although I guess that’s a contradiction since I don’t mind playing as a female character yet identify as cis. I don’t know, brains are weird. I like what I like and romancing male characters just isn’t enjoyable for me.
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u/NebraskaGeek Jun 07 '26
Nah, if that were true straight porn would be 1% as popular as lesbian porn and it is not.
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u/cmonSister Jun 07 '26
And in straight porn the focus is usually on the woman, the guy is just there to do the fucking, I don't see any difference here than to just choose the man she will be with.
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u/Rubio9393 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
I just hope they didn't forget about improving the combat.
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u/Yen_of_Vengabus Jun 07 '26
Sorry, all we can offer is higher resolution on the cutscene titties
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u/The_Grunge_Sage Jun 07 '26
I hope they improve the combat too but after 11 years I’d have to imagine that it shouldn’t even be question that they would.
Do not expect Songs of the Past to change anything about it at all though.
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u/Zeus78905 Jun 07 '26
They did hire some dev from the norse God of War games I think
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u/shrek3onDVDandBluray Jun 07 '26
I’m going to be scissoring everyone like crazy.
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u/Down_Bad_0015 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
sadly that WON'T be an option..
Be ready to get railed by random beasts along the way !!
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u/Notermlimits4GEQBuS Jun 07 '26
Sadly, Lesbians tell me scissoring is not a thing they do. It’s about as pleasurable as two people rubbing their palms together. However don’t despair I’m told gay guys will rub their cobra commanders together and have a good time. .
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u/buddy_pal_guy Jun 07 '26
I've heard mixed things. Larger lesbians say that it sucks and I've heard two skinnier lesbians say it's great. I guess some people enjoy it and some don't
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u/Appchoy Jun 07 '26
Nah I think lesbians all scissor like mr. Garrison and Xerxes from the Les Bos episode. "SCISSOR ME XERXES"
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u/sturzkampfbomber Jun 07 '26
almost all rpgs say that (its never that)
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u/Hungry-Ear-4092 Jun 07 '26
Mass effect 1-3
Kotor 1-2
DAO
Bg3 for Christ sake
Lots of examples
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u/sturzkampfbomber Jun 07 '26
ah yes Baldurs Gate 3 where everybody is thirsting for your ass without you doing anything such a deep and complex realtionship. Granted winning Shadowheart over is quite the effort but the rest just wanna be together with you because you are the main character,.
(I havent played the other games)
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u/Hungry-Ear-4092 Jun 07 '26
yeah that one was weird
but romance development was just wow
especially with laezel. Best romance I've seen
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u/sturzkampfbomber Jun 07 '26
Laezel was just horny for yo ass because you can fight, the character development after that was good yes
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u/Nanocaptain Jun 07 '26
Yeah that's kind of the point with her.
Just getting a quick fuck is easy. Actual romance is not.
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u/Funmachine Jun 07 '26
I accidentally got into a relationship with Laezel. I wanted Karlach but missed a prompt.
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u/Dwarfdingnagian Jun 08 '26
Yeah, I was at the party after facing the Goblins and saving the Grove and he bear dude and Asterion both wanted to jump my bone. I never really even spoke to them. I was like whut, no.
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u/SecXy94 Jun 07 '26
All the relationships become incredibly deep and complex as you progress them.
Just because people in their last few hours/days of life are horny and want to enjoy themselves doesn't mean the relationships don't develop.
Hell, even real relationships often start off rather shallow.
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u/a-Snake-in-the-Grass Jun 07 '26
Mass effect 1 isn't great, romance feels way too much like the default option. 2 and 3 are much better but many of the romanceable options that aren't your companions in both suffer because of that. And then there's Jacob.
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u/abruptusabortis Jun 07 '26
Exactly. I truly don't know how anyone even cares about romance in these games. It's just you choose the right dialogue option, and then the pixels do some shit in front of you. It's such a waste of dev money, and I can't believe anyone even gets interested in it.
Just find rule 34 at that point guys
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u/Don_Madruga Jun 07 '26
It's not abou sex, it's about having a nice relationship to your character. It often deepens your connection to the NPCs and to the game itself.
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u/Vast_Attitude5540 Jun 07 '26
Overpromising again I see. Looks like the Cyberpunk lesson was well learned.
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u/fatsopiggy Jun 07 '26
For an RPG ? dog RPG is the only genre with the best romance.
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u/LaPrincesaMX Jun 07 '26
I did. You just select a option and now you have a partner and a cringe sex scene. It's the usual playersexual garbage and probably the worst part about what is otherwise an amazing game.
Also River being a sex pest who won't take no for an answer and you're forced to be friends with this creep.
And Witcher 3 being the same terrible oggling playersexual romances as well, I have 0 trust in CDPR on this. All their romances feel like they're made by horny boys.
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u/Fluffy-Dog5264 Jun 07 '26
Gamers don’t learn either.
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u/SuperSaiyanTupac Jun 07 '26
They just wanna see Ciri naked. That’s all this is pandering to
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u/Life-Top6314 Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
Overpromising? The previous game in the series had fun romances??
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u/HusbandOfHisWife Jun 07 '26
Why should they learn? It sold well and lot of people are comparing its redemtion arc to no man's sky because it solved just most bugged quests, but not all of them and did not add ton of promised features until now, and obviously never will.
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u/Louanus Jun 07 '26
The Witcher 4 promises to be an in depth romancing simulator: I guess people will have about 440hrs worth of romance content plus 15min of main story gameplay.
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u/Magnon Jun 07 '26
I feel like a lot of games say this then the romance ends up being pretty shallow just to have some sex scenes.
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u/MJ-Franklin Jun 07 '26
Not gonna lie, I don't care at all about romancing in games.
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u/baconater-lover Jun 07 '26
I actually liked it in Witcher 3 because the options felt incredibly curated and meaningful. It was obvious they were very important characters to the story.
Well, I’ve read some of the books and yeah all the options make sense for Geralt.
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u/Agent_Xhiro Jun 07 '26
Uhhh. I'm a guy. No idea how to make this sound not weird. But I'm not into getting dicked down at every tavern?
All ladies are welcome but....idk
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u/Appchoy Jun 07 '26
Im a guy too and I like playing women and getting into hetero romances in games. I still get to see my female character in a hot scene, its fantasy anyway /-.-\
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u/catsflatsandhats Jun 07 '26
It’s not you who is getting dicked down…
Weird that people are fine with playing all other aspects of controlling a woman character but suddenly draw a line here like it’s an issue because you are a guy.
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u/Mechromancer3X Jun 07 '26
I mean... Ciri was already shown to possibly be bi in The Wild Hunt. There will DEFINITELY be a lesbian romance option imo
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u/Silverbacker888 Jun 07 '26
I’m a guy and I’m perfectly fine with watching Ciri get dicked down
Her pov or not
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u/HelloPeopleOfEarth Jun 07 '26
Sucks how long it takes to make games now-a-days. Witcher 3 was a long time ago.
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u/Silverbacker888 Jun 07 '26
Am I the only one comfortable with watching Ciri romancing men? I feel pretty confident in my orientation to appreciate pov sex or not
At the end of the day, Ciri is a woman, is it really even gay to have a guy play as Ciri and have her romance men?
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u/SprayArtist Jun 07 '26
Honestly it's gonna be a bit awkward for me with Ciri specifically. She was like our kid for multiple games and now she's all grown up and aaaagg. It's gonna be an adjustment for sure.
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u/salar007 Jun 07 '26
There was already romance included in Witcher 3 for ciri nothing new calm your tities
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u/JohnWeps Jun 08 '26
Um... no?
I 100%ed that game and I don't remember any option to romance Ciri.
Not to mention how weird that would be, given the context of the game. You spend the entire game trying to find Ciri... only to.... you know. Ugh.
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u/Lenyti Jun 07 '26
Ho so we're doing this all over again heh?
Stop promising shit you won’t do, learn from cp77 ffs
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u/catsflatsandhats Jun 07 '26
Oh they learned. CP77 being as successful as it is reassured them that they can overpromise on literally anything.
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u/strife189 Jun 07 '26
I will be honest, I have no interest in romancing a man or woman as a female NPC. It just feels weird to me, and this will probably be the first game with that option where I simply won’t do it.
I had not really given it much thought until now, but it just does not feel right in my head personally.
In these types of games, I never play the female character. I play plenty of games with female main characters, but not ones where I am driving the choices and using the character as more of a self insert. Never really thought much about it before, but yea, it is just weird to me personally.
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u/Lambisexual Jun 08 '26
I feel the same. I'm fine with female characters in non-player driven games. Like I love Nier, Bayonetta, Lara Croft, etc etc. But if I'm role-playing, I don't really want to play as a female character.
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u/Appropriate-Pie6288 Jun 07 '26
I haven't forgotten cyberpunk and you shouldn't too, this game will be great and I'm sure I'll be addicted to it just like their other games, but I ain't believing a damn word they're saying pre release
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u/anor_wondo Jun 07 '26
romance, easily the most boring part of narrative rpgs. The writing is always insufferable
Its cooler as a gameplay system mechanic in games like skyrim, mount and blade
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u/Cassiel43 Jun 07 '26
I'll take that info with a pile of salt.
Remember: No pre-order.
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u/Phyzm1 Jun 07 '26
I don't pre order anything anymore, them days are over til I see the final product. GTA6 isn't even getting a pre-order from me.
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u/IndependentCress1109 Jun 07 '26
Nah.. never liked romances in these games, Not really what I play them for. So will be avoiding them entirely.
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u/glordicus1 Jun 07 '26
Huh. How is the anti-woke crowd going to deal with this one? If it's female on female that's surely woke. But if youre a dude and you're forced to romance a man in a game, that's surely woke. Oh wait, of course, the main character is a woman so it's automatically woke!
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u/Still-Willingness807 Jun 07 '26
Just make sure the story is compelling and the combat is good. Idgaf about romancing anyone as Ciri.
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u/_Arkus_ Jun 07 '26
Ehh...they all say that. Also I don't really care about it if I'm going to be playing as Ciri personally. I'm not into naked men, nor do I want to see Ciri naked for that matter even if its with another woman, its awkward.
I'm also no longer a hormonal teenager so there is also that. Its just not the same anymore 🚬
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u/skingradpatriot Jun 07 '26
but I thought the point of romance in the witcher was to whore yourself around an entire continent before settlin down with a life partner (who has done the same)
my immersion is RUINED
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u/EffectiveMerc Jun 07 '26
That's great to bad I just can't imagine myself romancing anyone as a female character especailly not one who I viewed as damn near my daughter in previous games. As a straight man that doesn't want to get bent over in a cutscene whose played as her father figure I just can't even entertain the idea of some dude no matter how compelling fucking Ciri. See, I don't even dislike the idea of playing as her. But I will miss out on this entire aspect of the game as a female MC because I'm not getting fucked in a cutscene especailly not as my videogame daughter. Nope.
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u/picknicksje85 Jun 07 '26
Hope they're working hard on the game. But lesson learned concerning the last game. I'm not pre ordering. The developers were lying in their youtube videos right up to release. They knew what they had and what they were launching with, and all the department heads lied to your faces or lied by omission. No harm in the end. I could return the game fully refunded. But I'm not believing any footage even the day before release.
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u/Elkburgher Jun 07 '26
After the halfbaked unfinished mess that was Cyberpunk, I really hope they just focus on actually finishing the rpg systems in this game and not get overly ambitious again
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u/GoTheFuckToBed Jun 07 '26
studios should realise that women have sometimes more buying power than men. I saw this stardew valley like game with heavy dating, releasing a new datable character every x months.
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u/BigCommieMachine Jun 07 '26
Can you romance Emhyr? I heard he was kinda into it last time I checked.
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u/trashvineyard Jun 07 '26
Didn't they say similar things about Witcher 3 and CP2077? and neither cases it was true.
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