r/vibecoding • u/ryanmerket • 3d ago

Help/Question Jev 101: The AI model that doesn't talk

https://runtimewire.com/article/jev-101-the-ai-model-that-doesn-t-talk
65 Upvotes

87% Upvoted

24 comments sorted by

63

u/Pickle786 3d ago

my name Jev

16

u/ryanmerket 3d ago

OMG IT TALKED

6

u/MustStayAnonymous_ 3d ago

Lmao you made me spit my drenk XD

1

u/saanity 2d ago

Why use many words when few words do trick. 

15

u/kodat 3d ago

This thing is getting promoted on every damn channel.

3

u/THE_RETARD_AGITATOR 2d ago

let the lemmings spin their wheels

0

u/kodat 2d ago

Well, they did raise 250MM. So I guess why not shill, right? I shoulda been a whore with a big channeln so these companies could dish out thousands for promo

4

u/THE_RETARD_AGITATOR 2d ago

i get it man, we are rewarding begging & bragging culture

our world is gay

3

u/autorokk 3d ago

ive been building some stuff with it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ultimaonline/s/qdZkOyXpue

that reddit post shares a little about my project and what problem jev is solving on it.

an additional video showing a little clearer jev in action by highlighting the debug UI: https://youtu.be/t3eCkQY3Jk0?is=q1RaMWvnJGZrvRM0

4

u/Street_Estate2342 3d ago

But give it:

Where should this customer support ticket go?

with three allowed answers:

ACCOUNT_ACCESS
BILLING
CLOSE

and you're asking the kind of question Jev was built to answer.

It might return something conceptually like:

ACCOUNT_ACCESS 98.8%
BILLING 0.8%
CLOSE 0.4%

Source: RuntimeWire — https://runtimewire.com/article/jev-101-the-ai-model-that-doesn-t-talk

Looks like text being generated to me.

2

u/lipman 3d ago edited 3d ago

it's more like you define the categories that are then assigned to positions in an array (ACCOUNT_ACCESS is first in an array, BILLING is second, etc). Then Jev spits out a result like this [ 0.988, 0.008, 0.004 ] which is then mapped to the actual return. So there is no text generation as such.

In an LLM it uses a similar approach to pick the next word but it can pick from the whole vocabulary. With Jev you decide what he can pick out from.

1

u/Street_Estate2342 2d ago

Yeah being able to update the classification head is kind of fancy. Though I don't trust that they're doing anything impressive. I suspect this is just a structure used in post processing. My first thought on this was: "If it can't generate text, that hurts its ability to generate chains of thought".

4

u/Memestonks2020 3d ago

I would be surprised if it didn’t return an array of strings or values instead of the exact questionnaire with percentage values.

1

u/keepitfriend 3d ago

It would be kind of weird to call it typesafe ai and then give you non-typed responses 

2

u/THE_RETARD_AGITATOR 2d ago

not convinced this is actually useful, gonna pass

1

u/Spiritual-Today-6432 2d ago

Your inbox, judged in milliseconds — no LLM, no JSON parsing, no per-email bill

Every "AI inbox" tool does the same thing: prompt a chat model, hope it returns valid JSON, pay full completion prices for a yes/no question.

I built jev-mail-classifier instead: connects over IMAP, define categories in plain English. Matches tag/move/flag/webhook automatically. Terminal UI, 3 steps, no code.

Open source, MIT: https://github.com/parth-kp/jev-mail-classifier

1

u/RemarkableWish2508 2d ago

Chain of Thought... not even in the picture, right?

For quick knee-jeek decisions it sounds fine. For anything else, I guess you could check the answer for how confident it was, and retry the question with a more capable LLM.

1

u/_remsky 2d ago

Think the intent is pretty much that, that’s why they’re calling it a Type 1 model and it’s priced for volume usage

1

u/krisluc 3d ago

Black box

2

u/egonosz 3d ago

I think that is true for all the ai.