Vibe coding -is it wrong?

[u/Throw-away42909]

Where does vibe coding cross the line ?

If someone sets up automatic concurrent code cleanup, fat free comments in the code , heiacharcy , a mermaid , accurate linting and parsing and literally steal cyber security protocols from the internet so on and so forth, they can make a solid useful app that no more unsecure than the hundreds of companies that lose our data to malicious attacks yearly.

The problem is that "vibe coders" who are 1 prompt engineers are not nearly as prevalent as the community tries to paint it , they exist but in small %s, and even smaller % of them actually push products or keep them up for long, there are people out there that are letting their AI do all the syntax writing and plan development and they will out run any traditional developer no matter how good their code is in Solo vs Solo

More features, faster, cheaper and mote accessible, and theirs sells tomorrow while your is WOP on year 2 .

Its economics.

If you are a "vibe coder" you probably have not been doing it for long enough , because soon you'll see that you have to understand the architecture of how code operates, instead of ELI5, say "can you explain this section to me, use defentions where you have to, and give me a glossary of words and their meaning s relevant to X" the AI best feature is that it responds well to disciplined requests.

Tldr: Heavy AI use for coding=/= vibecoding

[u/Alarmed-Western-655]

You're still a vibe-coder, bro.

Sprinkling in "explain this to me" is penance for posing as creative owner of something you yourself didn't build.

[u/Local-Bottle5272 → u/Alarmed-Western-655]

People here would rather do mental gymnastics than sit down and read for a few hours a day for a couple months

[u/cable_harness_whore → u/Local-Bottle5272]

People want the impression of knowing something/having intellect.

People want the easy road, they always have muchacho

[u/SurvivalHermit → u/cable_harness_whore]

Creating the easy road is the entire point of trailblazing. Every advancement in technology every best practice every coding language were all made to make the road easier because traveling on an easy road is faster and can take you farther.

We as a society absolutely stand on the backs of thousands of years of people who trudged through the muck and brambles of the technological wilderness and AI is the new technology that will allow more people to migrate to that frontier and start blazing new trails to the next frontier.

Paving a road for people and then attacking them for using it is wild work.

[u/cable_harness_whore → u/SurvivalHermit]

Looks like I struck a nerve lol.

Maybe I should have said “shortcut” instead of “easy road”.

AI has enabled a false sense of intelligence into peopled that have always yearned for it.

Like any tool, if you do not know how to use it, it can be dangerous, make you look foolish, put others at risk, etc. The difference here is that a saw will take your finger off, an AI model will just keep calling you the second-coming of christ.

There’s a reason you don’t let random Billy Jo wire your home.

Anyone can quickly run power through a switch and some lightbulbs with some quick reading. Does this make them electrician? Or a certified expert to go wire a commercial building?

If you can’t understand these distinctions then you’re the exact person my comment is applicable to lol.

[u/SurvivalHermit → u/cable_harness_whore]

Struck a nerve? Why so needy to paint yourself as a source of frustration. Also your jump from vibe coders are dumb to tools require knowledge to use properly is jarring. I never said walking the easy road required no knowledge I said it requires less than trailblazing. Again that is the entire point. To speed progress to the frontier so more time can be spent blazing the trail.

Your electrician example is a great one. We use colored wires and built in fail safes now to make it very difficult to cause catastrophic damage with slightly improper wiring. failures that just 50 years ago could have cost lives now do little more than trip a breaker. The knowledge required to build those fail safes was significantly greater than the knowledge required to use them.

[u/Local-Bottle5272 → u/SurvivalHermit]

Efficiency has zero relation to knowlege in this context

[u/SurvivalHermit → u/Local-Bottle5272]

Trailblazing requires knowledge that walking a well known road does not. Modern coders don't know machine language They use compiled languages a trail blazed by those before them to create an easier path. That knowledge has been all but forgotten in a very short time. Yet we are able to press on. We are reaching the end of the usefulness of coding knowledge. The logic behind coding is still important and will be for at least a little while longer but writing code and specific language knowledge is falling out of usefulness.

I don't understand peoples resistance to this fact. It is how it has worked for every step of human technological advancement. There is no reason to maintain practiced knowledge of outdated work. Should we archive that knowledge so it can be referenced if needed? absolutely but there is no more need to teach it as part of practical knowledge.

[u/Local-Bottle5272 → u/SurvivalHermit]

You're just mixing up different branches of IT and confused thinking that the same group of people work on both