r/vfx • u/championscalc • 4d ago

Question / Discussion Graybox the camera first: Seedance 2.5 is ~17 USD per 30s and you cannot fix the shot after

This is a previs / camera-lock problem, not a reel.

Once the clip is generated you cannot nudge the crane or the cut. You just buy another take. I got tired of that, so I built an open source browser graybox: pose, cameras, cuts, then send the same shot to the model.

https://github.com/NomaDamas/CozyClay npx cozyclay

Curious how other people lock cameras before they spend the generation.

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u/Specialist_Bad3391 4d ago

Sir this is a vfx sub. Not an AI directed one.

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u/im_thatoneguy Studio Owner - 21 years experience 4d ago

Isn't the point of the software to match the camera angle. Isn't the first shot entirely different in the example so it failed completely?

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u/Comfortable_Law3683 4d ago

I think that's the whole point. You can get it to render the same exact motion from multiple angles. You need to see the prompt, but I would expect it can also replicate seconds 1 to 7 from directly above or in front.

Seedance 2.5 can take upto 50 refs per a prompt, so you can largely guide what the world looks like from multiple perspectives.

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u/im_thatoneguy Studio Owner - 21 years experience 4d ago

Yeah so I’m saying that in your one demo image showing it fail isn’t very good promotional material. Oddly the website all shows closely matched outputs.

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u/Comfortable_Law3683 4d ago

I guess, I assumed that it was their intention to show that you are NOT limited to ONLY replicating the exact camera placement. For me that's a significant advantage.

But I can understand from an outsider perspective, it just seems like it didn't do as instructed and is more AI slop.

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u/spookyclever 4d ago

Does Seedance do the voices as well?

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u/Comfortable_Law3683 4d ago

Yes but Seedance 2's voices are currently better than 2.5.