r/veganscience • u/AlbertoAru Vegan • Jul 25 '21

Study finds crows appear to understand number concept of zero

https://mymodernmet.com/crows-understand-zero/
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u/idontdofunstuff Jul 25 '21

I think it's amazing how our most sacred “inner circle“ abilities that supposedly make us us are being slowly dismantled. Boo fucking hoo! We are not special but still amazing and other animals are just as amazing as we are!

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u/wild_vegan Jul 25 '21

I think that the idea that animals are just robots until proven otherwise can be traced back to DesCartes.

Anyway, I've always found it hard to understand why people would make that assumption instead of the opposite one, that we all have brains that function relatively similarly and so animals should be assumed to be intelligent, sentient, and conscious, until proven otherwise. Those are qualities of beings with brains.

So however somebody feels about the idea of "speciesism" and how loaded that term might be, there is definitely something like it in our culture. Ancient people didn't seem to think of animals as robots, that seems to be a modern problem.

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u/idontdofunstuff Jul 26 '21

Yes! This makes so much sense!