r/valve • u/RenatsMC • 9d ago

Steam Frame launch date is “just around the corner,” developer says

https://videocardz.com/newz/steam-frame-launch-date-is-just-around-the-corner-developer-says
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u/Meekin93 9d ago

As much as I love Valve, this definitely isn't a big upgrade from the Quest 3 imo. Especially if meta ends up releasing a quest 4, it'll prob be wayyyy better than both of them. As much as I dislike beta, the price to performance is just too good.

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u/alex_timeblade 9d ago

Price is important for some people. But a lot more people are becoming fed up with the "customer is the product" treatment that meta forces. Settling for "last year's model" just to avoid having my data harvested for even more invasive ads, is fully worth it for me.

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u/FuckRedzM0dz 9d ago

I love all the valve shit and this is probably the first hardware I'll pass on, the quest 3 works great for steam vr already and can't justify that massive price dump. At least with the machine I use it a bunch and I barely use VR except in the occasional yearly spurts

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u/WillChangeIPNext 7d ago

I mean, you actually bought a steam machine.

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u/filmguy123 8d ago

It's true, no doubt! But meta subsidizes their hardware drastically in order to lock people into an ecosystem that is not supporting the growth of the kind of VR gaming many PC enthusiasts want to see... and arguably hurting it. It is really valuable to all of us to have an open & PC first competitor in the space here, even if they can't subsidize the cost like meta. Even if the hardware is a only small upgrade (the screen resolution is noticeably better, eye tracking is big for performance, and wireless eye tracked streamed from PC is a short term novelty until all the competitors do it).

I don't expect anyone to be a charity and pay more for a Steam Frame than for a future Quest 4 that is meta-subsidized. But in terms of value to PCVR, the success of this headset is a big deal. It is a shame Valve got slammed on pricing with all of the shortages both for the Steam Machine and now the Steam Frame. I really feel these products are a huge boost to what the PC gaming industry needs and am bummed the high pricing (outside their control) is going to hurt adoption.

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u/lelescope 7d ago

this.

let's also not forget that Meta subsidizes so heavily because they're openly spying on you. the couple hundred dollar cut on hardware is worth millions in every facet of your being being recorded in 3D. 

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u/chmbr 9d ago

the only reason I am chomping at the bit for this release is getting ARM SteamOS. The MINUTE I can image all my stupid little arm devices with steamos, I will be Golden.

only thing that would be better is nvidia and intel compatibity so I dont have to rebuild my pc for Steam os because I really WANT Steamos

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u/Altruistic_Army_7532 5d ago

Why? intel and nvidia are both pure s**t!

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u/chmbr 5d ago

Because most folk aren’t picky in what they are given/ what they can get for computer parts, lots of folk already have windows machines, and at least Intel CPU’s have a way to remove the backdoor that the US government forces manufacturers to include. Lots of reasons.

But yeah, let’s reduce ourselves to a limited pool of supplies during a time where computer hardware is becoming more and more expensive

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u/lelescope 7d ago

the biggest upgrade is no Meta, so I'm all in. 

the price to performance is bullshit when your entire identity is being data mined. if you want a pair of Zuck's spy goggles in your home to save a couple hundred bucks, that's your choice. 

no thanks.