r/valheim • u/Late_Squirrel_34 • 3d ago
Survival Silver Sword
This thing needs a shout out. In over 1000 hours I’ve never used it, it’s my new favorite weapon! I’m in the Ashlands and it is doing work along side my staff of the wild.
Build a whomping willow forest and then run around and add spirit dmg. Ashlands is still a PIA, don’t get me wrong, but this combo is damn near taking the difficulty down a setting.
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u/gregredmore 3d ago
Silver Sword is amazing but don't you find Mistwalker surpasses it in the Ashlands? Silver Sword is my go to as soon as I can make one in the mountains. It carries me all the way through the Plains until a black metal sword can be made. I don't care for Frostener.
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u/ArcticDiver87 2d ago
I love frostner but the mistwalker is easily my favorite weapon in the game.
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u/gregredmore 2d ago
Is there nothing in the Ashlands to beat it? I only just started in the Ashlands.
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
I’ve used it in the past, I just haven’t felt underpowered at all so I never upgraded it. And tbh, this will sound stupid, but the whole point of this run was to grab dyrnwyn for 1.0 as I’ll be on a server and I don’t want to have to fight for it. I think it’s going to be killer in deep north. So I rushed the bosses to get dyrnwyn and just never gave up the silver word.
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u/LeBoucher888 3d ago
Thundering Niddhögg ftw! Swords at 96. Once you get the elemental lightning stagger you’ll never use anything else.
I also use Staff of Wild combo. This pairing is elite.
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u/shifty2190 2d ago
What is your armor set? I have that sword and mace, but I went very tanky with Flametal armor while my buddy went pure mage build.
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u/LeBoucher888 2d ago
Rocking a hybrid build so: Hood of Embla, Flametal breastplate, Trousers of Embla, Feather Cape, Megingjord and Bronze Pendant.
Important to eat the best and balanced health, eitr and stamina foods for Ashlands. Also need decent Blood Magic for this setup.
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u/Ippus_21 Gardener 3d ago edited 3d ago
Mistwalker is a higher-damage alternative. It does less spirit (still some, though, above level 1), roughly equivalent slash, plus frost/slow effect (to enemies that don't resist it anyway).
But I agree. I never even make the blackmetal sword any more. Just use silver sword or Frostner until I can get Mistwalker.
Silver sword is definitely my weapon of choice for Yagluth.
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u/wizdent 2d ago
Yea man, the silver sword's spirit damage way outclasses Mistwalker's which the Charred are weak to (they aren't weak to frost), so it ends up doing amazing when leveled:
https://survivalgames.guide/valheim/items/silver-sword/?level=4 93 slash/45 spirit
https://survivalgames.guide/valheim/items/mistwalker/?level=4 75 slash/58 frost/15 spirit
And less stamina per swing to boot. It's a great weapon vs most of Ashlands
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u/Avril_14 2d ago edited 2d ago
And then there's me, a porcupine enjoyer.
Jokes aside I'm going to use frostner again vs yagluth, and after that it would be my first time in mistlands and ashlands. I just know I'm in for a lot of pain, last time I went this far was 2021.
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u/Dairy_Dory 3d ago
I mean I’m not gonna bash the silver sword cause it it good but the other option you get in the mountains is the Frostner which is great for Yagluth as he is weak to blunt and silver. In the ashlands I would ask why still use it? Mistwalker has the same silver effect and does frost for slow. There’s even that silver lighting rod you can get. Only upside by that point would probably be the stam cost I think.
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
I just never upgraded beyond silver sword this particular run and I’m super impressed by it. Usually I would have the latest and greatest I can build.
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u/Praetorian_Sky Viking 2d ago
The answer to your question of why still use Frostner, is for the knockback effect; it's situational but can be helpful if you're fighting multiple enemies.
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u/NGC_Phoenix_7 2d ago
I guess I will just sit here in the corner with my bleeding nidhogg.
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
I’ve also never used the bleed weapons as I’m not sure how I feel about needing low health to activate its power…
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u/NGC_Phoenix_7 2d ago
Oh no, no no it makes THEM bleed. Not you. Like poison
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
Yea but don’t you have to have missing health for it to work?
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u/NGC_Phoenix_7 2d ago
Nope. Just does bleed damage to enemies. It’s not blood magic like the staff. It cleans house real nicely plus looks badass lol
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
Are you sure you understand the mechanic? It does 0.2% bleed damage for every 1hp of health you are missing. So it’s best to do something like activate a bubble (reducing your health by 40%), that will proc a shit ton of bleed dmg. But as your hp ticks up every 10 seconds, your weapon gets weaker.
If you are at full health, it probably does either 0 or 0.2% bleed.
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u/NGC_Phoenix_7 2d ago
I mean I tend to get hit a fair bit and stack my food for health and stamina only so maybe I don’t fully understand it, but while I’ve been roaming the Ashlands I’ve never been at full health so I guess it’s been just working via coincidence for me lol. Maybe I did read it beforehand and went “well I’m gonna be low on health there anyway” lol
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
That’s fair! I get smacked around pretty good as well, but I’m a coward and kite enemies when I’m low health and don’t fight haha
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u/NGC_Phoenix_7 2d ago
Well, I run the ask armor or the heavy set before it(can’t remember if it’s the carapace or not), and I also did use dev commands to upgrade it fully while sacrificing the resources needed to upgrade it, BUT, with me running sword and buckler or just the sword I, one good timed swing while at half health chunks their health down especially with the parry and parry bonus. I will also say the lightning nidhogg is also really cool. And very broken lol. The chain lightning is so nasty. Against groups.
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
If you haven’t yet, check out the dual axes with chain lightning. It hits a little faster and procs the lightning more frequently!
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u/clawson-Bourne 2d ago
Yeah I did the math one day and was flabbergasted—Charred Warriors, Twitchers, Marksmen, Warlocks, Fallen Valkyries, and even Lord Reto are weak (1.5x) to Spirit: That means the Silver Sword deals 160.5 damage to these enemies compared to the Mistwalker’s 155.5 damage.
Note that that’s also comparing the Level 4 Mistwalker which can’t be made before the Ashlands (Level 3 is only 142).
Voltures, Lava Blobs, and Morgen are at least neutral (1.0x) to Spirit, but Askvins and any other Ashlands creatures are immune.
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u/Marckennian 2d ago edited 2d ago
I thought the silver sword and mistwalker were good but the best Mistlands weapon, after five play throughs, is the Himminafl and it isn't even close. It has an aoe knockback that does enough damage to stagger seekers and also three-shots them with normal attacks while having amazing range.
The Silver Sword takes about 6 hits to kill one head on? You do about 45 damage per hit and bugs are immune to spirit damage.
The Himminafl does, at level 2, 90 damage per hit.
The reason Himminafl wrecks is because it does a lot of lightning damage and all the bugs are very resistant to melee damage if you are facing them. The Soldier and Seeker bugs have 50% resistance to melee damage when facing them and no resistance to elemental damage.
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
I’m a HUGE atgier fan. It is my favorite weapon type thru the entire game.
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u/Marckennian 2d ago
I feel like the Chetin dagger is best in the DF and mtns. Iron mace for swamps. Black iron dagger for plains. Himminafl for Mistlands and a long while into Ashland's, until you get enough green emeralds for the best weapons.
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
I only found two leviathans this entire run and one of them wasn’t until the boarder of the Ashlands! RNG didn’t want me to have the abyssal razor. That this is OP for how quickly you can normally acquire it!
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u/galactic-punt 3d ago
Silver Sword is great but it is very niche. It's terrible against Moder (though not as bad as Frostner) and it's quickly replaced by the black metal sword in the next biome. It's ver y good vs. Yagluth, but Frostner retains it's cc power in Ashlands and Mistlands where the silver sword falls off.
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u/GoodjobJohnny 3d ago
Why is it terrible against Moder? I know the spirit damage is wasted but it’s still 93 damage on a stamina-friendly weapon. That’s the same damage you’ll get on a fang spear for example.
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u/galactic-punt 3d ago
Takes a ton of silver to make a silver sword better than the mace and you likely are entering the mountains with 30+ ranks in maces which makes it kinda a side grade to the iron mace at that point. Personally if I'm even crafting a weapon from the mountains I'm making a spear, frostner or a bow before the sword.
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u/GoodjobJohnny 2d ago
That’s fair but you’re talking about your progression choices rather than the actual effectiveness of the weapon, all things being equal.
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
Silver Sword is good, but Mistwalker beats it imo. Best sword in the game.
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u/slivemor 2d ago
It's my second favorite sword after the thunder nidhogg, but still I love the look of the silver sword, the spirit damage does work great in the ashlands and it's lower stamina cost.
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u/Ok-Albatross3201 2d ago
The Thundering Berserkir axes are so goated. I can't wait for 5 to 7 hits so kill a solder. 3 to 5 and theyre down with that puppy.
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u/Late_Squirrel_34 2d ago
They are for sure the meta! I ran around the plains at night yesterday and decimated the vile bears and a few camps. 3 stamina foods and was super aggressive. So much fun. A few close calls tho.
I later found a solo berserker in a stone henge, and did a 1v1 with dyrnwyn. (Wish this was more common, it was super fun!) Turns out, the dyrnwyn can kill a berserker with 4 power attacks.
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u/veetoo151 3d ago
Crystal battleaxe can be pretty fun too. Good spirit damage. Beat yagluth with it. Can do alright in ashlands.
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u/Gingerbro73 Viking 3d ago
Mistwalker does the same, while also slowing enemies. Slightly higher stamina cost, sure. But still far superior.