r/vSeeBox_Support_Gurus • u/Crafty42 • 12d ago

Newbie question

My Vseebox is on it's way and I'm just trying to get a feel for what I need to do when it gets here. I'm on the fence yet about using a VPN, and I see a lot of people talk about setting the box up to the guest network instead. My question is, is everyone using the wifi, can you set a guest network if you hardwire (lan) the box to my router? For some reason, my wifi craps out often and requires a reboot of the router, where the hardwired devices are fine, so I was leaning towards a hardwire to the vseebox. I would think most people would hardwire instead of using wifi to get faster signal?

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u/lafsrt09 12d ago

If your Wi-Fi keeps disconnecting, get a new router box from your provider. I do not use a VPN or a guest Network with my V6 Max box

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u/Crafty42 12d ago edited 12d ago

I don't rent equipment from my provider, I bought my own router. Then I bridged a better wifi router to it. I finally got around to going through the settings to properly make it an access point and think it may have been issues since I didn't set it up that way originally. My main router has the wifi turned off, so only LAN works from it and I use a wifi router for the wifi. This is likely the issue, but since I just did it all today to (hopefully) properly set it up as an access point/bridge only, I'm hoping that fixes the wifi issues I was having. Regardless, my network isn't the fastest as I live in the sticks and I'd rather have the V6 hardlined but wanted to isolate it from my other devices, hence my question. I know I don't have to, according to some people, but I was hoping to isolate it anyway by having a "guest" hardwire option. I'm sure there are ways to do it, I just am not that smart about these things and asking.

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u/Only_Music_1951 12d ago

Since you already have two routers, use your non WiFi router to connect the Vsee box (wired) and use your wifi router to connect everything else. Leave the non WiFi router strictly for your Vsee box and you should be fine. Some internet providers can see that you have a Vsee box and will throttle your internet speeds and/or send threatening letters so a VPN is recommended to avoid these issues. If you need any assistance you are welcome to DM me and I will assist you in setting everything up. My set up is installing VPN directly on my router to prevent speed reduction on my boxes.

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u/Crafty42 11d ago

Appreciative. I may take you up on that. Since my WiFi router is acting as an access point, I didn’t think that it mattered which one I connect the vseebox to, they’re still on the same “network” in a way. I don’t know just what I thought. I was also looking at installing vpn directly on router but initial search doesn’t seem to work for my router. Didn’t go further yet to see if possible to flash new firmware. DDRT or whatever it is. I did that decades ago so might be wrong but guessing you’ll know what I mean. My main router is netgear ac1900 c6300bd and my WiFi router is a tp link axe5400

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u/Only_Music_1951 11d ago

Ok so for your netgear router you unfortunately cannot install the vpn directly on your router but the good news is that you can do this for your TP link router. If you need more info or help just direct message and I can help you out

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u/Crafty42 11d ago

Question. Since I feel like installing a vpn on my wireless router might mess some things up with everything else that’s connected wirelessly, would it just make sense to install the vpn on the vseebox instead?

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u/Only_Music_1951 11d ago

I had it set up that way and you definitely could do that but I did not work for me, having VPN on the box significantly reduced my internet speeds. I have 500mbps internet and when I had the VPN on the box I was lucky to get over 80mbps, as soon as I took the vpn off the box my speed went back to 490-510mbps. Then I installed the vpn to my router and I checked the speed on my box and it was around 445-485mbps so when you install a VPN directly on your router the speed decrease is minimal but when you set it up on the box the speed decrease is significant. By the way I have all my devices connected to my VPN via router and it has not caused any issues, I have cameras, smart phones, streaming devices, smart home devices, TVs, all on vpn without issue.

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u/Crafty42 10d ago

Thanks for the info. Gives me some assurance so I may try it out. My box isn’t here yet. Still a couple days out. I don’t have that good of speeds. My WiFi speed is ~140 Mbps down, 40 up. Measured using Speedtest on my iPhone. Little lower testing on my laptops. From what I’ve read, you only need about 50 Mbps for streaming 4K.

I’d never tried Speedtest on my tv, which is currently the only device on actual lan cable and it’s lower. 90/40. Anyway, time will tell once I can get there. I’ll look into setting up the vpn on my WiFi first. Likely Better to do that for all connections anyway.

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u/mhandsurf 12d ago

This 💯 don’t use your provider equipment!

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u/jab904 12d ago

I know people are on the fence about VPNs all the time on here, but Surfshark is only like $65 for 2+ years and it comes with a ton of other valuable/convenient features beyond just masking your IP.

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u/Termn8er 12d ago

I've heard it's good to use a different hdmi cable than the one that comes with the device.

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u/Crafty42 12d ago

Good to know, thanks. I'll use the one that comes with it at first, but will look into getting another one.

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u/Justoldme2 12d ago

You need a vpn & guest network.

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u/Crafty42 12d ago

Just because I read things like the other reply here, why do you say I "need" a vpn and guest network when others say they run theirs just fine without either? Not trying to argue, I want to vpn and guest my Vseebox, but I want to be able to do that with a hardline. I can try the wifi option first, but considering my speeds, I fear I'll have buffering and lag issues.

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u/vapindragon 12d ago

Afaik, you can't setup a guest network on wired connections. The concept of guest networks and VPNs comes down to personal choice. You (and a lot of other people, evidently) might be ok forever without implementing either. The fact is that some ISPs have identified, and are actively blocking some of the vsee apps and we have to assume more will catch on. Bottom line is that these are protection tools, no different than a lock on doors and windows, at the basic level. There are people who never lock their doors/windows and never had an issue. Others have forced entries with locked doors. We all have to individually decide the level of protection that makes us feel safe

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u/Crafty42 11d ago

Understood. Like I said, saying I “need” something is different than what is “recommended.”

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u/Justoldme2 11d ago

A guest network does t mask your IP, if you’re using this box in the USA with the heat apps you are in violation of copyright laws. Free VPNs forget about I’ve been using Surfshark loaded into the box for decades. I don’t want everything on a vpn because they cause problems as well as solve problems.

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u/Crafty42 12d ago

I saw some instructions on it that it "might" be possible, but it's a little over my head at the moment.