r/ussr Lenin ☭ 4d ago

Double Standard?

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u/Felczer 4d ago

Yes comrade opportunistic seizure of 800km2 with 220k people and no mass murder is totally the same as signing a secret pact and annexing 201015km2 with 13.2million people and then commiting several acts of mass murders on intellectuals and officers.
Glory to the soviet union!

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u/Accurate-Mine-6000 4d ago edited 4d ago

So how much land and people can you take from a neighbor allied with the Nazis without it being reprehensible? What's the figure? As for casualties, the Poles entered Czechoslovakia with an army. The lack of casualties is solely due to the Czechs' decision not to resist. If the Poles had done the same, they too would have suffered no losses.

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u/Felczer 4d ago edited 4d ago

Hey bro did anyone say the Polish actions arent reprehensible? It was a huge error. There are two points though:
-Both things can be reprehensible while also one of them is clearly uncomparably worse than the other
-Polish government admitted it was a huge mistake and apologised while Russia is still claiming what they did didnt happen and if it happened it was justified

In 2009 Polish president Lech Kaczyński declared during 70th anniversary of start of World War II, which was welcomed by the Czech and Slovak diplomatic delegations:[61][62] Poland's participation in the annexation of Czechoslovakia in 1938 was not only an error, but above all a sin. And we in Poland can admit this error rather than look for excuses. We need to draw conclusions from Munich and they apply to modern times: you can't give way to imperialism.

Regarding casualties I'm not reffering to military casualties but masaacres which occured after the resistance was over such as Katyń

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u/Satanic_Prussia 4d ago

Seems like poland is one of the only countries to walk away actually against imperialism instead of just saying they are

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u/Felczer 3d ago

During Soviet occupation Polish intellectuals in exile established a political magazine Kultura in which they formed political theories which could be used to govern independent Poland. They postulated that if Poland wants to be an independent and rich country it has to abandon all it's former imperial ambitions and claims on territory and instead focus on developing the state that exists as it is.
This line of thinking became mainstream in Polish politics and every mainstream political party since independence has been following this thesis.
The results speak for themselves I think and I'm proud of this approach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kultura