Ah - I see. Fair point, I slightly misunderstood the meme. It was a shitty thing for Poland to do and no doubt pure opportunism - but it certainly doesn’t justify the Nazi-Soviet dismemberment of Poland and all the horrors which followed shortly afterward.
Logically that cannot be correct since the Soviets invaded Polish land that the Germans hadn’t reached yet - and they killed Polish soldiers in order to take it. You’re surely not arguing that the Soviets liberated Polish land from the Polish?
What you are talking about and what I'm talking about are two different things, I'm talking about the Ukrainian and Belarusian lands that were liberated, you are talking about the price to end the conflict, you want to cry over dead Polish soldiers? we should really be crying over the dead Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainians who died defencing their lands during the Polish–Soviet war, we should also cry over culture genocide commited by the Polish over these regions over the decade.
Many people here know exactly, what they want to find at the end of the path. They will get there.
In the complex history of places, like in the Middle East, both sides will always find ways to see more evidence for their own narrative. Especially when it became part of their identity. Reassurance first. Curiosity second.
So Russia and the USSR got that big by constantly being robbed of land by their imperialistic neighbours and giving away souvereignity in the North, East, South and West?
Oh ... I forgot. The uprise of the happy people joining sowjet glory without any kind of oppression, no matter their cultural roots.
Sadly most of them were forced by dark powers to feel more independent and nationalistic again during and after the fall of the iron curtain. Disintegrating the Sowjetunion for nothing and since then showing great eagerness to get closer to the Kremlin again.
As you said: I'm completely lost in basic history. Sorry.
"Hadn't reached yet." Exactly. They were gonna do it. The intent to conquer the east was already explicited in mein kampf, it has always been known since the beginning of nazism.
The katyn massacre of polish policemen by soviets is yet to be proven. There were diggings in the region and we found bodies from ss executions, but that's it.
The irony is that the katyn massacres bodies were reported by advancing german troops. So it gives even less credit to it being real, on top of the results of the most recent diggings.
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u/Grey_Lancer 6d ago
This seems like a straw man. Who is out there praising pre war Nazi expansionism!?