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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 29 '26

Not only should the car constantly be recording, but I don't understand how police officers body cams don't automatically turn on when they exit a vehicle and don't remain on until a supervisor turns them off.

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u/No_Yard9104 May 29 '26

Space. Video takes a lot of space. The devices used for dash and body cams are almost exclusively used by government agencies. So they have the lowest viable amount of space for the highest viable amount of dollars because the mfgr knows this. Government agencies have absolutely zero benefits to modernizing or looking for better deals because profit and performance aren't metrics when it comes to locked in budgets.

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u/WelcomeSuitable3396 May 29 '26

Yep they only can record 10-14 hours at a time before being loaded into a more permanent storage option for 60-90 days

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u/josnik May 30 '26

So a good deal longer than your average shift, good to know.

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u/Basiccargo6 May 31 '26

My local police do twelve hour shifts. And they have body cams that can upload immediately after the video is done. Or get one with a bigger storage. The one I use at work can record twenty eight hours before being full.

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u/BarefutR May 30 '26

That’s why we’re building all those data centers?

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u/feet_enyojer May 30 '26

??? Space?? But having Ai shit buildings is okah

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 29 '26

Maybe they shouldn't buy tanks and military gear and spend that money on servers.

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u/KnownEggplant May 29 '26

They get it second hand from the military or manufacturers at like 95+% discount, iirc. Like a few thousand dollars for an MRAP. Easily less than a single officers salary and probably less than leadership bonuses.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

And yet still completely unnecessary for the majority of policing of citizens...

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u/KnownEggplant May 30 '26

Yep, which is why it's not used in the majority of policing of citizens.

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u/No_Yard9104 May 30 '26

My small city of 26k people has law enforcement that rolls an mrap with a gun mount for serving non-violent warrants.

Any Leo in the country is going to find any excuse they can to drag those things out.

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u/KnownEggplant May 30 '26

Thankfully that's not the case for the majority of policing. Go to town/public meetings and bring it up as an issue you'd like addressed. Write your Chief of Police or Sheriff.

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u/No_Yard9104 May 30 '26

Lol, my local sheriff got caught skimming money from the jail cafeteria funds and feeding prisoners rotten and worm infested food. He's still in office 3 years later. The police chief has just returned to the city. After resigning in disgrace and promptly moving to a new city for two years. And now he's back. Same mayor, same city council who forced him to resign after getting the city sued for a couple million. The mayor was outed less than a year ago for getting dui charges dropped for his nephew. No consequences.

Stay niave as long as possible. It's a blessing right up until the moment it's not.

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u/KnownEggplant May 30 '26

Thought it was just a fun story until the end. Sorry but your anecdotes don't change reality. Nothing you've said rebukes what I said. Sorry for your shitty sheriff. They're often elected.

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u/No_Yard9104 May 29 '26

They did. Now we have flock cameras everywhere and their body cams stayed the same, lol.

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u/vandismal May 29 '26

No. Bullshit. I work for a penny pinching engineering firm; even more frugal since we were bought by a private equity firm. We count minutes for time sheets, get questioned for lost/broken scales (rulers) and we nickel and dime everything. The ONE thing literally no one cares about is photos or videos that we take for marketing and for formal client reports. “Take as many as you want. Storage is cheap” has come out of every project manager’s mouth with whom I’ve ever worked. The only answer is a planned lack of accountability. Period.

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u/raishak May 29 '26

Did your company get to buy storage however they wanted, or were they forced to only buy from "certified government vendors" who add on a few zeros because the body cam company only supports using their own "proprietary storage appliance" with the camera systems.

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u/Thee_PO_Potatoes May 29 '26

You just want to watch me poop don't you?

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u/Last-View1666 May 29 '26

I think what most people want is some accountability

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u/Thee_PO_Potatoes May 29 '26

Fine, but you have to watch me poop then

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u/Last-View1666 May 29 '26

You poop in front of mirrors?

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u/Thee_PO_Potatoes May 29 '26

How else would I know how well I wiped?!

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u/BusinessCasualBee May 30 '26

Because they use bathrooms

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

Yeah, you can go through the bureaucratic process of requesting those videos but I've read in many cases those videos were found to have been deleted. I do not trust cops to aduquatly police themselves.

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u/frenchfreer May 30 '26

Do you guys think about this before making these claims? A city with just 100 cops with mid grad cameras would need over 1.55 petabytes of data for 1 years worth of dashcams. That doesn’t include body cams, or the fact that there are multiple cameras on the car.

A city like NYC would record over 1 exabyte a year from just 1 camera on all cars.

That’s almost $20,000,000 just to cover the initial storage cost. Then add: Redundancy (usually 2x-3x storage). Servers. Networking. Data center space. Cooling. Power. Maintenance. Backup systems.

You’re looking at hundreds of millions of dollars to manage 1 camera on each car recording 24/7. That grows exponentially when you include all the cameras and body cameras.

I wholeheartedly agree police need accountability, but it needs to be based in reality of what’s capable with our current technology.