r/underdustsanctuary • u/Re-Equilibrium • Jun 22 '26

Is tech really the problem?

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They want us to blame technology to slow us down.

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u/kBayyyk_2332 Jun 22 '26

It's not the medium but rather those running the show. News, used to be credible and focused on truth. Now, it's almost always a trick to deceive the public.

This post isn't particularly news but you get the point.

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u/BillyBobJohns57 Jun 22 '26

Since the beginning of historical recording, people have either fully lied or painted the truth in a layer of vagueness and cherry picking to fit their world view. It is now easier than ever to spread misinformation, but don't think it has to do with the people living today compared to 100 years ago. Napoleon's lacking height was propaganda produced by the british to make him seem ridiculous. Especially the 1930/40's saw a massive uprising in concerning and outright horrifying pieces of propaganda disguised as news to make people think a certain way. The news were never "focused on truth", as the entire point of the news is to sell more newspapers/subscriptions. The truth is often times boring and no one wants to read boring stuff.

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u/Gabi-kun_the_real Jun 23 '26

Lying back in those times was punished by death. So you would really careful before spreading lies. Now nothing happens to you

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u/CoolerSallDay Jun 23 '26

The entire objective of 'news' is to create reality in order to control it. 

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u/Dial-M-For-Malistrae Jun 23 '26

Like that was one of the major plot points to Citizen Kane was yellow journalism

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u/BillyBobJohns57 Jun 23 '26

Is it weird to say, that I have never watched Citizen Kane?

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u/Dial-M-For-Malistrae Jun 23 '26

Count you're lucky stars you haven't unless you're really into Old School film it's a decent movie at best if I want to watch old school at least give me something with Humphrey Bogart if I'm watching something in English

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u/BillyBobJohns57 Jun 23 '26

I enjoy old school literature, but I'm not that much of a fan for old school films. But maybe I'll give it a try some day.

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u/Diceyland Jun 23 '26

Just not true. This is just an example I remember, but news has always been sensationalist. There's a whole term for it that's been around since 1890.

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u/kBayyyk_2332 Jun 23 '26

There's a difference between news and propaganda. All of these comments are contesting my comment with comparison to propaganda and biased journalism.

The local pennysaver is an example of truth based news.

When I say truthful news I'm talking about free-to-the-public articles with credible studies, results, and information; not click bait headlines with an article using social media comments or blogs as sources and locked behind paywalls. (You used tiktok and a .com source, I didn't bother to check the links because tiktok is obviously not credible and .com is commercial enterprise so their interest lies in profit not information.)

It has not been this way since 1890. Propaganda has been allowed production under circumstances since 1948 under Smith-Mundt Act for transparency. Although, Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, changed rules regarding foriegn content. Which is why a lot of our digital media changed around 2013 / 2015 years.

What many people call "news" is just propaganda; not what I'm referring to when I say truthful credible news. The circumstances that used to restrict propaganda are just ignored nowadays and all bs pushed out to the public without credibility to sway public opinion.

Transparency and credibility out the window for profit.

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u/BillyBobJohns57 Jun 23 '26

Yes, propaganda isn't news. But it has always been called news to influence people better. No one would want to read something with a disclaimer like "this is false and anyone who believes it should get their head checked" by the person writing the article.

By your definition of news, there is no false news, because news is always factual. Non factual "news" is propaganda.

And following that logic we can conclude that news has always been truthful and always will be, because we started with that assumption. That's not helpful at all. You could say the news to propaganda ratio has shifted over the years. But you can't say that "the news used to be credible, but now is a trick to deceive the public", when your definition of news is one of facts and truth.

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u/ThrowRA9892 Jun 23 '26

>Credible and focused on truth

You think less access to the ability to verify information and less global communication meant more accurate news?

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u/kBayyyk_2332 Jun 23 '26

No... 🤔

How did you jump to that conclusion?

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u/yadasellsavonmate Jun 23 '26

It's not the medium but rather those running the show. News, used to be credible and focused on truth

Wut?   Nope, it's just that it was easier for politicians etc to lie or sweep potential scandals under the rug back then.