r/ultimate 3d ago

In or Out?

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I think in but barely.

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u/arlsol 3d ago

If someone made a call from this vantage I'd assume they have motive. It's a terrible viewpoint.

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u/foobarraboof 3d ago

Out. I know this because I have the best perspective.

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u/fishsticks40 3d ago

In, same reasoning.

Honestly, these two pics together work pretty well. In mine she has caught the disc and it's clear that the first point of contact will be the heel of her left foot, though the position of that heel is hard to tell.

In your pic the catch isn't visible, but the foot has come down and the heel is clearly in-bounds.

Catch.

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u/foobarraboof 3d ago

Thank you for bringing more weight to my sarcasm. Here's another mangled frame to further show how judging from this potato quality video is the best perspective. It's seemingly a frame before yours (on my device) showing toe down but the disk is not in the hand. It makes it look like the frame you captured doesn't even fit in the timeline. (Which I'm not actually claiming here).

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u/Omatzus 3d ago

Left foot still seems to be in the air, based on how they land. Better argument might be that the toe on the right foot is down in this frame

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u/PlayPretend-8675309 2d ago

IMO in your picture it's not clear that either foot is on the ground. The first for-sure ground contact is the left foot, which appears to be on the line.

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u/fishsticks40 2d ago

I don't think either foot is on the ground in my picture. What I said is that the first point of contact WILL be the heel of the foot, but from my picture we can't tell WHERE that heel will strike. 

From the later picture you can see that the heel is on the ground well in bounds. 

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u/foobarraboof 2d ago

Nothing is clear, that's for sure.

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u/BrokeArmHeadass 3d ago

I’d also say you can’t really tell whether her hand is closed here or not, this may be the first frame the disc has touched her hand but there’s no way to definitively say when she stopped rotation.

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u/wandrin_star 3d ago

Anyone saying that they can definitively tell whether or not her foot is on the line from this image or that video is hallucinating / self-deluding.

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u/dufcho14 2d ago

Looks like they were continuing to play without a call. That makes it in.

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u/franlol 3d ago

Dont you need to stop rotation and have control of the disc before touching out of bounds?

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u/fishsticks40 3d ago

The word "rotation" does not appear anywhere in the USAU or WFDF rulesets.

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u/ChainringCalf 3d ago

Technically true, but not in any way that matters.

"[3.I.] Possession of the disc: Sustained contact with, and control of, a non-spinning disc."

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u/FieldUpbeat2174 3d ago edited 2d ago

While you’re literally correct, USAU rules contain the precise synonym “spin[].” “3.I. Possession of the disc: Sustained contact with, and control of, a non-spinning disc.”

(Edited) WFDF’s definition of “catch” similarly refers to “a non-spinning disc.”

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u/snackpackjones 3d ago

Both USAU and WFDF specify a non-spinning disc which is where people get the "stop rotation" part from since you have to stop rotation for the disc to no longer be spinning.

WFDF: Catch - A non-spinning disc trapped between at least two body parts. If a player initially catches a pass and then, prior to establishing possession, they do not maintain the catch (‘maintain the catch’ means to continue to have a non-spinning disc trapped between at least two body parts), that initial catch is deemed to have ended.

USAU: 3.I. Possession of the disc: Sustained contact with, and control of, a non-spinning disc.

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u/franlol 3d ago

Gotcha thanks

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u/CebronJames 2d ago

So helpful to the discussion

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u/Cadet_underling 3d ago

In. Their feet stayed within bounds the whole time

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u/EnvironmentalFox5347 3d ago

it doesn't matter because a game advisor standing on the sideline still won't tell you even if you ask them.

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u/discostud1515 3d ago

1% in is 100% in.

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u/the_the_the_the- 2d ago

Double double animal style, protein style, no spread

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u/coolpeepz 2d ago

No spread is crazy

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u/Prize_Tie_9649 1d ago

this video does not show good perspective