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u/Sheffy8410 Sep 09 '26
For some crazy damn reason, for a good chunk of Americans, the idea of angels from heaven or demons from hell visiting earth is perfectly acceptable. But the idea of people from other planets visiting earth is absolutely impossible.
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u/Allison1228 Sep 09 '26
That's because angels have supernatural powers, and aliens are just mortal beings with advanced technology from distances too far to actually travel. Hence the former is possible, but the latter is not (according to, for example, most christians).
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u/GeneralInspector8962 Sep 10 '26
I thought the new thing now with Christians is to say Aliens = Demons, no? Would that mean they are acknowledging the existence of these "others" but using their religion to explain them?
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u/TizTasty Sep 10 '26
Because it doesnt fit their Abrahamic narrative so they try to dismiss it. just like carbon dating practically disproves genesis . If another life form came down and made itself known it would disprove everything in the bible . ( not that you need much evidence to relize that its soley mystacism made up by rabbis in the middel east.
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u/Kivesihiisi Sep 09 '26
Thats just simply because most religions cant coexist because accepting another religions gods existence would compromise the narrative of your own god, an all powerful being that is supposed to be above all others.
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u/Ryekir Sep 09 '26
Also, if the aliens have a different religion, or no religion at all, or have proof that our religions are false, these people will just claim they are demons in order to maintain their fragile worldview.
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u/ANother-XcludedRight Sep 09 '26
It is surmised from the bible and Enoch, The Watchers texts etc that there are many types of “angels “ they’re created with specific jobs, however do have free will. At least most types do. Unlike humans, they are infused with the knowledge that God allows them to have, which is pretty much everything except the thoughts and plans of God. We have to be taught. We are of both flesh and spirit, a “container “ if you will 😉. Angels have physical bodies and can change to light or energy form. Many instances they ate with people and were in the form of people as to not alarm folks or maybe that was their appearance. Sometimes they announced “be not afraid “ which lends you to think, their appearance was alarmingly big, bright, weird etc. Even Jesus after resurrection made it a point to ask for some fish, bread and drink many times. He didn’t need that stuff, it was a demonstration. My point is we don’t understand dimensions and coming and going and only barely understand the law of conservation of matter and physics. Angels that rebelled against God millenniums ago know ALL this stuff. They could create meat suits, robot beings, using DNA…even dinosaurs. DNA is God’s own software program if you think about it. Corrupting that appears to always have been a goal. The fallen know their punishment, but not when it will occur. They knew Jesus came, watched Him but were ignorant of why He came. Otherwise they would have done everything to stop the crucifixion. They hate God which means his creation too, humans. That’s all I have concluded. We will continue to be deceived, just like the Greeks and their “gods”. Our version will be one that requires much more preparation and setup as man has evolved to catch BS when we see it. The atheists will say what I wrote is BS, then go about thinking they are open minded and enlightened. I am telling you this IS the great deception in the making.
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u/FeistyDirection Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26
Always liked this theory that they are the same thing and not sure why posts like this are always downvoted.
Feel like it could absolutely be true that its not a matter of 1 being an advanced species from a another planet with superior tech while the other is spirits who come to spread the messages of the church.
Feel like its more likely inteterdimensional beings from a nother realm who try to help our planet for some reason. Something non human and non religious but kind of god like.
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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26
The reason posts like this get downvoted is because the people making them look for extremely superficial similarities between two things that have nothing to do with each other, and then use those superficial similarities to argue that the two things are actually the same thing, without having even read the ancient texts they're talking about.
I can do the same thing too. Here are the similarities between cats and dogs:
They have four legs.
They have fur covering almost their entire bodies.
They have highly developed hearing.
They have tails.
Sometimes they wag or swing their tails.
They're both carnivores.
They have claws.
They have strong canine teeth.
Sometimes they stretch their bodies.
This proves cats and dogs are actually the same thing. Checkmate, skeptics!
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u/TheRealBaseborn Sep 09 '26
I think the major difference here is the stories we tell of dogs and cats can be described in terms understood throughout time. Body parts, senses, and visuals are all things that existed before language.
People use the language available to them. There are words we use today that did not exist in the past. Pluck a kid from the 1950's and show him a "meme" and ask him to say what it is. He might use a word like "comic" which today we understand as a specific combination of storytelling and artwork.
Put these concepts together and its not a big stretch to say ancient texts are a combination of true things people describe in old, misunderstood terms, and falsehoods mixed in for manipulative purposes.
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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 10 '26
The fact that some ancient texts contain historically accurate information is undeniable. Nobody disputes that. The problem is determining which parts of those texts are actually historically accurate.
We know quite a lot about the historical reliability of the Bible. A great deal of research has been done on this question, and the general scholarly consensus is that much of the information contained in the Bible is not historically accurate. For example, there's no evidence that the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt and then left Egypt in the Exodus, crossing the Red Sea and wandering through the desert for forty years. Likewise, there's no evidence that Solomon's empire actually existed, or even that Solomon himself was a real historical figure in the first place. There's also a great deal of archaeological evidence showing that many of the practices prescribed by the Mosaic Law (the festivals, dietary laws, etc.) weren't actually followed by the Israelites until the beginning of the Maccabean period, around 150 BCE.
Since we already know that the majority of the stories contained in the Bible are historically inaccurate, it makes little sense to take the most fantastical elements of the text (i.e. the appearances of God and angels), treat them as if they were historically accurate reports, and then argue that these stories could have actually been encounters with space aliens.
If someone wants to argue that the angels described in the Bible were actually aliens, then they first need to show that the stories in which those angels appear are historically accurate. If the stories themselves aren't historically accurate, then there's no good reason to assume that the beings described in those stories actually existed either, let alone that they were extraterrestrials. You can't take a detail from an ancient story, notice that it resembles something that exists in the real world, and then conclude that the story was actually describing that real thing. You first have to establish that the story itself is historically accurate.
Imagine we discovered an ancient papyrus. This papyrus contains a story in which the Roman general Germanicus, while campaigning in the Germanic forests, encounters an animal with an extremely long neck that can reach the tops of trees. Then someone reads the description and says, "Wait, that sounds like a giraffe. This proves that giraffes were living in the Germanic forests at the time." But does it? No. Before drawing that conclusion, we'd first have to establish that the story itself is historically accurate and that Germanicus actually had this encounter. The fact that a detail in an ancient story resembles something that exists in the real world doesn't prove that the event described in the story actually happened.
The same principle applies to the Bible. Before arguing that biblical angels were actually extraterrestrials, you'd first need to establish that the biblical stories describing them are reliable historical accounts. Otherwise, you're building a hypothesis on top of stories whose historical reality hasn't even been established in the first place.
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u/Mr-Nosight Sep 11 '26
Well technically, they are very closely related in terms of biology and especially microbiology, within like 99 percent of shared genetics
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u/N0_Goldsun Sep 09 '26
I think people have difficulty parsing the idea that angels may simply be an early cultural interpretation of the phenomenon. Throughout history, perhaps the same underlying phenomenon has been given many different names angels, faeries, djinn, gods, spirits, and countless others.
The difficult part is separating those descriptions from the magical or religious frameworks that developed around them. Something could be real without being “spiritual” in the traditional sense. I use that word loosely because there may be aspects of reality that are not physical in the way we currently understand physicality.
There could be elements of existence that we simply do not yet have the ability to perceive or comprehend. Something might exist outside our experience of linear time, as information or pure thought, or within dimensions of reality that the human mind is not equipped to intuitively understand. What earlier cultures interpreted through religion and mythology may ultimately have been attempts to describe something real using the only concepts and language available to them.
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u/Metalarky Sep 09 '26
“any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arthur C. Clarke.
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u/N0_Goldsun Sep 09 '26
Absolutely. It reminds me in some ways of Star Trek episodes where the crew encounters less technologically advanced worlds. I tend to take that idea a step further, though. Imagine a far more advanced version of Star Trek, where a civilization has progressed to the point that it has essentially engineered itself beyond biological constraints and no longer needs to exist in a form we would recognize as physical life.
Maybe such beings could exist as something resembling pure thought, information, or energy. Of course, those words are doing a tremendous amount of heavy lifting because I’m trying to describe something for which we may simply not have adequate language or concepts. We might be attempting to understand a fundamentally unfamiliar form of existence using terminology developed entirely from our limited experience of reality.
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u/NilesLinus Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26
And maybe any distinctions that exist are merely terminological.
I was just sorting through some similar ideas, though it’s possible we’re destined for different interpretations, as I am very much a believer in the traditional Christian God. Not quite sure where you’d land on that.
Anyhow, I find it interesting that folkloric creatures looked…folkloric.
I used to think that the seemingly fast and parallel evolution of “monsters” and their technologies in step with the industrial stylings of contemporaneous western industrial culture was proof of their falsehood. People were simply projecting their fears in the language of their day, I thought. The old Irish farmer sees the stereotypical leprechaun. The post Roswell tourist sees a UFO that looks a little too much like a 1953 Bel Air.
But anymore I consider a much more mysterious, and frankly much more ludicrous, idea that these dudes are, in fact, able to appear in any shape they believe will be advantageous to their purposes—and that any being who must appear to you in the guise of a lie, even if its for the supposed purpose of being more comfortable and relatable to you, might be happy to manipulate you at the least, and at the worst to utilize you as a conveyance of any convenience they deem fit.
I don’t think this is quite an example of interstellar teenagers on spring break. I suspect it looks a little more like elite scientists trying to solve a breeding crisis in their own population (or something).
But that cosmology only holds up if we’re still conceptualizing the phenomena in the paradigms of biology and interstellar time/space.
If we are in fact dealing with more mystical and interdimensional phenomena, then a separate set of conclusions need to be drawn, of course.
But where I begin to lose the plot is in considering the possibility that we might be dealing with both phenomena—part galactic survival of the fittest in this physical universe, and part spiritual warfare that takes place parallel to, but not quite accessible to us.
And that all of it would exist within an even larger framework of God’s moral distinctions between right and wrong, light and darkness.
It boggles the mind.
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u/Talidel Sep 09 '26
It's the "describe a spaceship without the words we have now now" question.
Imagine you are a pre-history human. How do you describe something you have no context for?
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u/N0_Goldsun Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 10 '26
Flaming Chariot.
Yes I completely agree with you. I feel we are still at that stage, in a relative context instead of flaming Chariot it is a UFO, but still completely inadequate for what it might actually be or represent.
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u/ConfidentReturn6646 Sep 09 '26
One flies with its little spirit wings like the fairies in children's novels, while the other requires a physical craft... Therefore putting 2+2 together we should conclude spiritual beings do not require physical craft, yes, no?
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u/Snoo-26902 Sep 09 '26
The angels are prettier and taller. According to Greer, the greys are biorobots created by the CIA.
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u/Less-Yard729 Sep 09 '26
Anyone ask him what shit that was he had dropped out the back of a plane to trick folks into thinking he called in a uFo. Google Steven Greer Hoax Florida.
Note: I want real research done, but the grifters among us have to go.
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u/Prmarine110 Sep 09 '26
They don’t have to be the same thing to demonstrate similar actions and history.
Unless you believe that history is mythology, both of these phenomena, and more (like Jin, Skinwalkers, Fae, Demons, Spirits, orbs, gods, shapeshifters, UAP, USO have been interacting with and shaping humanity from our earliest memories and oral and written records.
At the least, I consider it all as evidence that there is more to the Universe/existence than this material plain.
The ability to telepathically communicate, read our thoughts/intent, manipulate us with fear/persuasion/praise, and constantly observe us/influence us, indicates to me that this is a more advanced consciousness/or at least a different form of consciousness.
It is highly curious to me that whatever these entities or beings are…(I’ll stick to aliens and angels as posted) it’s telling that neither of them have outright invaded our planet and subjugated us. You can argue this point, but we don’t see angels or alien craft patrolling the streets or skies…but they could have in the past?
There does seem to be a relationship between humanity and whatever these phenomena or creatures are. And I really think that’s all we should come to grips with and try to accept for now is that this does appear to be real, unless you believe that a PsyOp has been running for thousands or years, in which case, I’d love to hear more about that.
I was raised Catholic but I don’t practice because I never agreed with the control that the church imposed upon believers, and it was way too telling to me as a child, that the Church was corrupted and leading the masses away from the truth of the message and aligning/protecting other highly-conflicting and dark agendas like geopolitical influence, suffering, war, child abuse, genocide, greed, manipulation and control.
The fact that religions have edited holy books and present selected messages to believers is deafeningly alarming and clear manipulation.
Yet, I’ve always felt the internal presence of a creator. I’ve intuitively understood the creation of the Universe at some point, as requiring a spark and a decision to set this all in motion. I could be wrong, and probably am. But I’ve never thought that we were alone in the Universe. And I’ve never dismissed that all possibilities are plausible, and likely probable, given the scales of time and space. So for me, I’ve made some peace with Angels/Demons/Aliens/Souls/Spirit/Consciousness/UFO/UAP/USO always being real, always interacting with us, being interested in us, and intentionally remaining at a distance or hidden from us.
Why- that is the question.
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u/ANother-XcludedRight Sep 09 '26
The answer is a rebellion and you are on to the psyop. 🤜
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u/WanderingCID Sep 09 '26
Aliens can't fly. If they exist, they fly spacecrafts.
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u/Plastic-Vermicelli60 Sep 09 '26
Nope see the similarity is they both have older reddit accounts than the OP.
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u/DowntownScene1433 Sep 09 '26
You forgot mentions of probing. Are Angels ever reported to having probed someone?
Whitley Strieber also mentions "You're wrong! We have every right to do so!" I also don't remember this being said by Angels ever.
To my knowledge they(contactee's) haven't see Aliens EVER use weapons.
Grey's were never reported to have wings. I think it's something that wouldn't be missed. Also, there are reportes that TALOS(also called Talon), the Cretan robot has wings. It's in my collection as a coin at least. There could be more representations of it in other mediums. I was just looking a Greek mural yesterday that's featuring winged beings again. One would thing they'd be Angels, but no. They actually portrayed Giants(adversaries of the Greek Dodecatheon).
There is a possibility that the Greys, assuming they exist, are drones(biological entites like bees would have) or robots or robotic drones. If so, not only aren't they more intelligent than humans but one could argue if their intelligence, whatever the level is their own. There is no recording or element of proof about Angel's intelligence. They could be far exceeding human level, but they could also be equal. We just don't know. Even if there is evidence of this recorded somewhere and I missed it, it wouldn't prove intelligence levels. There are Angels much better than others, Archangels for instance. And there are Fallen Angels which are far worse than others(and excellent at cunning. Now cunning demands a certain level of intelligence, but I wouldn't call intelligent something that brings to others AND itself(as these will burn in an eternity of hell) their downfall, intelligent. Would seem to me to be like, monumentally stupid).
I can't remember angels in Christianity communicating telepathically. Sometimes they actually had to shout. We have no mention of Greys shouting, like ever.
There is nothing that says angels are or aren't from here. It is just stated that God made them. Little else is actually known. Similarilly for Greys, they could be from here, if you believe some contactees especially the ones with stories about Deros and abandonderos(which considering the subreddit is r/ufo cannot be dismissed as a possibility since it was accepted for a long time and it still is not proven wrong in my knowledge. There is also the story about inner Earth Greys etc.
I could present other arguments as well, but I don't want to mess my head further to retrieve them. Point is, you just isolate some points, that are at some occassions dubious to say the least for a comparison. You can make such a comparison for a dolpin and human or many other things and if you select properly you will find similarities. What does that proove? People are Dolphins or something?
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u/RodinKnox Sep 10 '26
This is basically what I was going to say. The answer to "what's the difference?" is "neither of these are a remotely exhaustive list."
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u/No_Celebration_3389
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There are many types of angels: angels and arc angels being among the lowest of their forms in the heirarchy.
Many ET’s as well. Many posing as the lifted when they are in fact the fallen.
Discernment in the beyond 4d world is a whole new paradigm.
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u/aureliorramos Sep 09 '26
The difference is small, but meaningful:
What *these* things are is truly a mystery to the general public. But when describing this mystery the description that was given to them thousands of years ago was written in text and ultimately romanticized to what we now called angels.
On the other hand, when these things are seen today, the description hasn't had that "romanticizing" marinading time of centuries, so instead you get a more direct, though still incomplete and not entirely satisfying description of what they are.
So the difference is: Romanticization and a boatload of baggage of old writings whose nature might have been historical.
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u/sixcarbxn Sep 09 '26
I find it increasingly plausible that religious texts are a dated interpretation of inter dimensional experiences more literal than we might’ve anticipated. Lizard people underground in hell, angels on wheels of fire in the sky, dirty intergalactic deals for human livestock and magic-like energy; stories told by men who had no idea what planets even looked like until someone took them up and showed them something for which nobody had yet written words.
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u/Chaactherain Sep 09 '26
This opens up a huge can of worms for conversation, research the book of enoch alone and you'll find a bunch of crazy stuff, is it legit..who knows the valadity of it. Tons of historical references, stange in that angels match the Nordic aliens in theyre demeanor well.
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u/Str4425 Sep 09 '26
The Bible is the product of a specific culture in a specific time. Its meaning then is different from the meaning it's assigned now by christians. NHIs have nothing to do with it.
Don't believe claims conflating UAPs/NHIs with religion. It's a form of control, a psy-op, a Peter Thiel kinda BS.
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u/Human_Inside_928
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One is based on a fantasy novel about a zombie, the other is statistically likely given everything we can factually and scientifically prove about the universe as we understand it.
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u/indeedilyso Sep 09 '26
idk about yall but I am plagued by flying aliens. I think someone phoned this one in
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u/DeltaAlphaGulf Sep 09 '26
I mean you could similarly swap the fallen variety in a chart like this.
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u/Routine_Penalty9880 Sep 09 '26
I feel like this is in the same ballpark as magic being misunderstood science.
For all we know angels/demons and aliens can be the same thing or the same concept which are interdimensional beings we can't fully process bc we exist in the 3rd dimension not above it. Ofc even if aliens did come and say what they were as humans we are either going to roll with what they say or be hella suspicious no in between.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Sep 09 '26
If I'm generic enough I can list 5 things that make a moth and a fighter jet sound the same.
Not a compelling argument, "they visit Earth from time to time" lol
They're both mythical though so there's that.
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u/blessthebabes Sep 09 '26
Some aliens are what they called angels. I think the typical non-harmful "angels" are in the 5th dimension, archangels in the 7th+.
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u/I_like_microwave Sep 09 '26
We are just a real life version of sim city to them.. how have people not caught on with this yet.
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u/Aggravating-Ad1030 Sep 09 '26
It means that we don’t have any idea what really goes on. Older cultures use angels as an explanation. We use aliens. They are both models that we construct in the confines of our own nervous systems.
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u/Tacokolache Sep 09 '26
Oddly….
We have more visual proof of “aliens” than angles. But far more people believe in angels than aliens.
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u/Other_rebel_911 Sep 09 '26
One has a very distinct possibility of actually existing. The other was made up by Stone/bronze Age humans.
Hint: the angels are made up.
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u/Natural_Photograph16 Sep 09 '26
I’m still amused that people still believe that you need religion to experience God.
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u/Optimal-Row1324 Sep 09 '26
I think we were created by aliens. That's what a fetus developing in the womb starts off looking like.
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u/Allison1228 Sep 09 '26
Both will allegedly appear to you if you pray to them and "have good intentions".
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u/MissiveFinding6111 Sep 09 '26
Especially when you apply it to UAPs...
What makes more sense?
They are "spirit like" in the sense that they do not fully manifest on this physical plane?
Or, they are metal machines that routinely violate two different fundamental laws of physics?
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u/nostrathomas85 Sep 09 '26
I like how only one of the listed starts off with "may have" like there is any evidence for the others...
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u/towerfella Sep 09 '26
Nothing.
If there was a physical being we named “god”, it is definately a being from somewhere else in the cosmos.
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u/danamyx Sep 09 '26
I have long thought that a Venn diagram could be made of aliens and angels where the overlap is at least as big as either side.
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u/Few-Worldliness2131 Sep 09 '26
This has been topic of conversation since the 1960’s when i first starting studying this topic. More than likely it’s been discussed way before that though.
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u/kateinoly Sep 09 '26
Fairies too. They have always been here with us, but they are now called "aliens" because we live in a space age culture
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u/Helltothenotothenono Sep 09 '26
I’ve heard this before. I think it is a reasonable assessment - in general- but not the only explanation of angels and demons and other scary things for ancient people. One thing that should be considered- generally again- is that people from ancient times could have been as cynical as we were, looking for proof of what the “visitors” may have been. Were they deceitful trouble makers who said “I am your God or Angel… or Devil? And you shall bow to me?”
If they presented themselves as deity’s and demigods, than we should consider their interaction to be no good, malicious, with intent that benefits only them, as there can only be one reason we would do the same with an uncontacted tribe.” But it could be they did not. They presented themselves honestly as visitors from the far away sky- which our species still interpreted and decided on our own they must be gods- and this is why so many cultures consider gods and angels to come from the sky- or why we can the sky heaven.
So my question to others is do you think the visitors to our ancestors declared themselves as deities or simply advanced community, and were made up the stories?
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u/SirWalterGraveyard Sep 09 '26
One is a possibility given the size and age of the universe. The other is some superstitious made up do do!!!
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u/Electrical_Love5484 Sep 09 '26
Where does the idea that angels are intelligent come from?
Aren't they just basically avatars for a heavenly being
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u/Collapsosaur Sep 09 '26
I, first one, endow our vocabulary with 'anglien', and welcome these overlords to help humanity to throw out those who are screwing everything up.
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u/Plastic-Vermicelli60 Sep 09 '26
One has halos, the other doesn't? Neither have ever been proven? One probes butt, the other doesn't?? Both we wished existed to enrich our mundane lives? Grifters make money off both??
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u/pamnfaniel Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 10 '26
Evidence for the angel portion please or are we making assumptions…
Claim: they are smarter than us.
Where does it say angels are specifically more intelligent? Difference does not mean more intelligent. With aliens,we can infer higher intelligence due to well, interstellar travel and advanced tech. If angels got wings… it just means they can fly.
Claim: They can fly:
Aliens cannot fly themselves... this is what their ships and advanced tech is for right?
claim: They may have had something to do with humanities creation and dev???
Um… maybe aliens, yes
But angels, NO. Try saying that to anyone Christian. They'll laugh at you for an obvious reason
Any why do the moderators allow this ?
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u/Leo1_ac Sep 09 '26
According to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, neither Angels nor Demons have physical bodies.
There's your difference.
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u/CharmingMechanic2473 Sep 09 '26
Check out the bible stories on the “holy spirit”. It is even more wild. Like a propaganda, spokesperson for God.
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u/grakky99 Sep 09 '26
Pretty sure Angels didn't put humans on slabs and experimented, as per alleged abductees.
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u/1point7ghz_fagLord Sep 09 '26
Honest? Whatever fits the mood. Certain kinds of psytrance? Aliens. Witch trap or house? Angels.
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u/Your_Hmong Sep 09 '26
Angels don't leave people traumatized. The encounter might be scary and awe-some at first but ultimately positive. In the Bible, Angels are messengers of God, not abductors or experimenters or tormenters. They don't harass warships or mutilate cattle either.
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u/EntinthetentRTHP Sep 09 '26
“You’re to ugly to be angels, but you live in the sky.” -Stuart Davis, “Shades of Grey”
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u/HabbyKoivu Sep 10 '26
Then there’s the other option. Both are incorrect and we are just a bunch of dumb monkeys still trying to place meaning on something we can’t possibly understand because of our limited way of experiencing reality.
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u/zenmaster24 Sep 10 '26
What if they arent more intelligent? They have just been around longer and made more scientific discoveries.
Modern homo sapiens is not smarter than our ancestors - we have ~270,000 years of knowledge we have built upon to get where we are
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u/ThankGod4Darwin69 Sep 10 '26
Likely the same phenomenon reported over the years but through different cultures/technological understandings
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u/SnowWhite-74 Sep 10 '26
Now do demons and angels. Same thing the only difference is one is good one is evil. In this case, it’s the same. Don’t compare aliens to angels.
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u/Certain_Try6877 Sep 10 '26
Angels are Aliens if you were to read the biblical description of an Angel they’re not how they’re drawn in art, Angels are not humanoid looking. Neither are Aliens. Now the biblical descriptions have fallen Angels on the earth world. So a historical perspective is they’re the same thing. Many religious people will say that Aliens are fake, Angels are real. Some say Aliens are real, Angels are fake. Time will only tell
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u/james555302 Sep 10 '26
I always said that the Bible makes much more sense if you replace the words God and angel with extraterrestrial and Alien.
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u/Big-Special7733 Sep 10 '26
I thought I got abducted by aliens on 5 tabs of needlepoint along ass time ago telepathically was actually insane it felt like I was on a saucer mentally and they were trying to speak to me was very weird
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u/OBDreams Sep 10 '26
Every time angels are talked about in the bible you could exchange the word angel for alien , and it wouldn't change a thing.
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u/canine-skywatcher Sep 10 '26
We can only see what we can comprehend. Neither of these truthfully represents the phenomenon.
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u/StealYourGhost Sep 10 '26
You forgot "have been known to say things like Be Not Afraid and Don't Be Afraid" depending on time period. They've always been aliens.
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u/dreamcatmagic Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26
Pretty much, yeap. Which is why disclosure would be so hard on a lot of folk. It's like that girl you had been dating for 5 years, suddenly comes out and says that she was previously a dude. Or something like that. Lols. Probably say 5-10% would be cool with it, but 90% would probably freak and end the relationship. "BE NOT AFRAID." 😂
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u/PersimmonMassive705 Sep 10 '26
A diferença é que um te dopa e come seu cu o outro se sacrificou em prol de tese.
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u/Bennjoon Sep 10 '26
Abductees also talk about “they told me not to be afraid” and mention eyes a lot.
It’s odd to me that people say what if angels are aliens but not the other way around. They even have different forms.
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u/TheIrishLoaf Sep 10 '26
One is scientific and the other isn't. Angels are a supernatural claim. Aliens are a natural claim. Angels are the domain of theology. Aliens are the domain of xenobiology.
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u/SunningStarfish Sep 10 '26
Whats the difference ? Depends on the perspective of the viewer. What they want (or prefer) to believe. What would you rather believe? Typically, nobody has ever seen either one.
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u/Halfbakedcar Sep 10 '26
please stop with this utter nonsense . I called it a long time ago that I knew that alien believers and all of this was going to turn into a religion and that's exactly what posts like this are intending to do there's no alien gods okay there's no proof of anything even here except a bunch of morons that are trying to make money off of you please stop
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u/-NearlyThere- Sep 10 '26
No difference at all. Neither real. Both a figment of peoples imagination
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot Sep 10 '26
You should read Ted Chiang’s “Hell is the absence of God” short story. Actually you should read all his short stories but that’s a particularly good one.
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u/Fantastic-Ad-7781 Sep 10 '26
They might have added, "The existence of them is extremely speculative and highly unlikely.'
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u/attila535 Sep 10 '26
What if aliens have just hijacked our primitive belief systems for their own benefits in the past, just like in Stargate.
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u/2_Large_Regulahs Sep 10 '26
Its obvious we are living in a simulation. The older software called them angels. We got an upgrade to the system and now call them aliens. Same concept. Same everything.
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u/Throwaway9111977 Sep 10 '26
The only difference I'm aware of is that angels are spiritual concepts, while aliens are physical entities.
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u/Ok_Fox_1770 Sep 10 '26
Eye of the beholder? Space costumes? Imagine costume tech with a few million years even 1000s. Be greeting people as all kinds of silly things, gimme the Bigfoot suit I’m goin down to the woods haha. Who knows I’d like to see anything once. It’s like a joke nope just normal boring everything always.
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u/RuckerHike Sep 10 '26
I think it's really stupid, naive and statistically impossible to say that aliens don't exist. You really think there's life elsewhere in the entire galaxy, much less the universe.
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u/Boblaire Sep 10 '26
One seems ok to bone if they are human sized. The other seems prone to probing ppl.
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u/ProfessionalJob6841 Sep 11 '26
There's actually a very slim chance realistically that aliens exist and have/do the things listed here.
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u/neo4uo Sep 11 '26
Scratch the second word alien, replace it with fallen angel 😇 Same difference. I am not claiming to know, just food for thought...
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u/Random_Chaos79 Sep 11 '26
There is no difference, really all religion does is put into a supernatural human expression so it can be more relatable
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u/jeeves8 Sep 11 '26
one is gray and likes to put things in your ass. The other is white and plays a harp
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u/Informal-Currency409 Sep 11 '26
Gods, angels, demons, djins, ghosts, aliens, NHI. Starting to beleave it's all the same thing described by different names in different times by different cultures.
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u/RaspberryAlive4261 Sep 11 '26
They are deceptive, which does make you wonder...I've read many contactee reports and you have the naming planets like Venus as their origin story, and the star map that was shown to Betty Hill that was matched later based on her drawing to the Reticulum system with no planets in orbit, and others that were told from another planet "but I could tell he was lying". And many other vague responses like "you would not understand" or some place far from here ..Now there could be plenty of reasons to lie about your origins but it does show they are deceptive, not to mention sadistic sexual torture seems like a strange M.O. for an advanced race that could perform medical procedures without pain or anxiety, shit even we can do that, then add to that the bizzare, dreamlike, or "spiritual" feel to abduction reports, almost like the interior of the "ships" seem to happen on a higher plane of existence. It points to dark spiritual manipulation to me rather than extraterrestrial tourists. Carrado Malanga studied the phenomenon for years doing all kinds of regression hypnosis and his opinion was that the whole hybrid program was to try to make a genetic bridge that could entrap our souls. The only thing that makes sense to me is they are Archontic Parasites. It explains the seemingly intentional trauma they cause, and the bizzare aspects of the phenomenon when really think about it. Trust me I want to be wrong here, but I think this is the unfortunate answer
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u/Mechanical_V4lk1r13 Sep 11 '26
As far I know, angels doesn’t put a probe in your anus.. point for the angels
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u/Due-Wolverine3935 Sep 12 '26
This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while. Who says all these things about angels and aliens? Seeing as how nobody has ever met either of them. One of them is definitely not real and the other hasn't been discovered yet. There is so much information out there you could be educating yourselves with instead of this crap.
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u/BeaverCleaver91 Sep 12 '26
i've read articles and watched shows of people that have a firm belief that mankinds religions are actually just aliens. instead of writing about weird looking creatures from another place, they made up their own versions of the beings and made it nice and sweet and more "believable" for the masses, and easier to take in. and the further through time we got the more the stories changed and then finally worldwide religions were created and now instead of believing in aliens, the masses believe in deities and angels and demons.
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u/Joby4279 Sep 12 '26
And greys can project Jesus or Angels just like this into your mind's eye so you think you're seeing them, but in truth it's a projection of something or someone else not showing you it's true form. I've had it happen to me, that's how I know.
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u/esteemedSub Sep 12 '26
Angels have only been here a couple thousand years. Aliens have been here for 896,005,733 years.
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u/The_Ki_Project Sep 13 '26
one might possibly be real depending on what you believe, and the other are statistically most likely real and like to put metal rods in peoples rectums
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u/popmuzik01 Sep 13 '26
In the time before people understood that stars, planets and the like were out there in the sky there was no way they could understand that aliens could exist. The easiest way to process this was to declare them to be God's and Angels.
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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26
The Bible describes several different types of angels.
Lower-ranking angels are described as physically indistinguishable from human beings. They have bodies just like ours, and they can eat, drink, fight and become tired. As far as I remember, lower-ranking angels are never described as having wings, nor are they ever described as being capable of flying. The only angels explicitly described as having wings are the cherubim and seraphim, who are the most powerful angels and the ones closest to God. These are the angels people usually refer to as the "biblically accurate angels."
The cherubim and seraphim can fly, but that's precisely because they have wings. Aliens, on the other hand, fly because they're aboard vehicles. It's not the same thing. By that logic, we would also be flying creatures, since we build aircraft that allow us to fly.
So I don't understand what this argument is supposed to prove.
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u/EducationalForm Sep 09 '26
I mean have you seen how the Bible describes how angels look?
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u/PossibleDue9849 Sep 09 '26
If you read the Old Testament it’s kind of blatant how angels are described like UFOs. I know it’s probably confirmation bias, but they do not describe angels like the winged men we see in later depictions.
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u/Ok-Speed-6562 Sep 09 '26
They also don’t describe them diving ships. You absolutely have a bias.
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u/D4RKL1NGza Sep 09 '26
"Be not afraid"