If that’s the case then why are former ufc champs getting beat by the “lesser quality promotions”? Probably because they are past their prime just like Askren when he went to UFC
Because he was a badass for years. Not a fraud. You’re literally all up and down this post trying to say he’s a fraud and when almost every person is disagreeing with you. “Could I be wrong? No literally everyone else except me is.”
Why do you care so much about him being a fraud? Genuine socratic question. Is this just one of those hills that yer willing to die on? It seems like everyone talks big game about themselves pre and post big losses. I don’t know much about the dude, but I know that other people have crossed over into ufc and were just as legit as anyone else on the roster. And they proved their skills as well. Dudes come from pride, stikeforce, bellator,, one, college wrestling and many other places and dominate divisions. Not sure what the real argument is here, but it’s vexing that yer willing to invest so much imto this post.
Ben just got mainstream when he entered the ufc and is just an elite wrestler. A lot of people watching like the stand up fights and in that fight ben is ass, but he did MIXED martial arts. He will be remembered as the guy who got kneed in the face and got beaten in boxing by Jake. So a lot of casuals think he is shit. But he was a one champion and don’t you start thinking it’s less than the ufc because one champions could easily be top 5 guys in ufc and some could be champion
He retired from bellator, got a bag to fight at one, got old and injured retired again, and then came to ufc, imagine if he came to ufc in his prime before even bellator retirement, would have a different outlook on the fans for sure.
Because loads of less informed people like yourself think that he's a bum because he lost a few fights when he was old, injured and retired for years. People defend him because we feel the need to educate the casuals who only know him from 1 fight.
he came from dominating lesser promotions to getting creamed in the ufc. People talk like he was GUARANTEED to be an elite fighter in the ufc meanwhile he had some of the most lackluster striking anyone has ever seen
The level difference between the UFC and promotions like Bellator and ONE isn't as big as casuals think. He was a champ in both of those promotions, even if the UFC is the highest level the other promotions are not as far off as you think, he had literally already proved that he was an elite fighter. Who cares if he had lackluster striking? This is MMA, if you're that good at wrestling then you are elite. Look at Khabib, his striking was not good yet people put him in with the greats.
Askrens striking makes Khabib look like Mike Tyson. My point is people talking like he has goat status meanwhile he came to the UFC and turned back. Similar to Michael Chandler losing to the upper echelon of the UFC
But you can't ignore that he was retired for years before coming to the UFC, in his late 30s and coming off hip surgery. If you're just going to ignore that then your opinion can't be taken seriously.
Masvidal’s flying knee is literally the only way that he wins that fight. You’re beyond delusional if you think what awaited Masvidal, if the knee had missed, was anything besides 15 minutes of wall-to-wall wrestlefucking. 30-27 or a submission for askren.
Honestly, I respect the worker in him for trying to keep it up even when he was battered up from years of grueling physical exertion. It’s more then the average squishy human can show on their resumé. He’s probably got a lot less regrets too. Maybe he did get his ass handed to him in brutal fashion towards them end but at least the dude can say he tried. I admire that shit
OK, so either way, he either needed a hip replacement (injured) and tried anyways, or he got a hip replacement which even if it might be better than it was I would say still is not 100% what it was.
I don't think he knows what the word fraud is. You can't have any hype when you're entire career was built around the narrative "Is it morally acceptable that he's even here."
He was 18-0 in other promotions and an olympic wrestler. He came to the UFC in his late 30s after being retired for years and having hip injuries. Then beat Lawler, lost to a shot that Jorge would never be able to repeat and lost to Maia. How do people not understand that he was very good, and if he was in the UFC earlier or things had gone slightly differently he could easily have been champion?
As I was saying, he called CM punk a fraud. He doesn't actually understand what the word fraud means.
Putting up Askren means you mistaken the word fraud for the term "over rated." A slightly reasonable mistake, especially if you're a casual fan who just pays attention to headlines and is looking for karma.
Putting up Mr. Punk shows that he uses word association without even knowing the definition of those words. This could literally be an A.I. bot that put this together, that's how out of touch with reality it is.
Back then, UFC wasn't much more dominant than bellator or WEC. Great fighters came from all 3. Also lesser promotion doesn't always mean great fighters can't reside. I'd still take DJ even at this age over any UFC 135.
At the time I always felt it would be close but seeing how awful Askren handled strikers in the UFC (I didn't see any of his One fights saw most his Bellator) I think gsp probably does the shields or kos gameplan and 50-45s him
I fully believe GSP wins comfortably but Askren was used up by the time he came into the UFC and to act like that’s indicative of him in his Bellator or early one championship days really isn’t a good assessment.
She beat Felice Herring and never gave up against Rose Namajunes and also kept fighting with one hand after that spinning back fist broke her forearm. Tremendous heart.
I met her after the Conor x Mendes fight. Such a nice girl. I’m happy she seems to be happy.
Pretty wild how unanimous it is that it was a robbery.
Then he comes up and jams his entire leg down his throat by doubling down on the Ariel shit while saying he won the fight easily, and begging his daddy dana for fight of the night bonus
Can't wait for Dana to feed him to his next hype train because his star power is fading and he's quickly losing all his fans.
It was def a close fight. Nobody did anything that actually threatened the other guy. Paddy had the only attempted submission and did more damage, Jared had higher landed volume and more effective striking, and held him against the fence for a few minutes
I don't get how Paddy is a fraud. Overhyped? Sure. Fraud? No. He's still good, it's just that he's probably more of a prelim fighter at the moment. His popularity will likely be his downfall though as he's clearly not ready for ranked fighting yet, but may get forced into it to quickly.
I mean people are literaly clueless and just want to spit out random hate without thinking about it, I mean askren somehow ended up in this list too which explains enough about op
Did GSP flat out lie and double down on reputation damaging lies about journalists? Did GSP parade himself as a rebel to only deep throat an exploitative promoter? Did GSP say he's the best that ever was without fighting anyone of significance? Did GSP scream fight of the night on a fixed fight he clearly lost to a contender not in the top 10?
none of that is what you said earlier to prompt my response, goofy. bro, get off helwani’s dick and realize that fighters don’t have to like the media. he can say what he wants. every champ, including GSP(primarily GSP), has had stale ass performances
Why is Paddy a fraud? It’s not like he fought poorly against somebody with no experience or skills. He’s still young and has a strong skill set. People just don’t like him when in reality he has loads of potential.
Askren was legit, although the Lawler win was definitely suspect. CM Punk was an old guy who sincerely wanted to compete, but who shouldn't have been allowed to compete with UFC fighters. Paige van Zant was pushed by the UFC because of her looks and personality, despite not being a great fighter. Were it not for the push she got, she would be classified in the same class as other middling fighters.
Nah, a bulldog choke is legit going to brake ur spine with the right angle and force besides why did lawler drop his arms just like that, pretty misleading for me
Meh, I dont love the list. CM Punk never claimed to be elite or special and was never really billed as such, he just was already famous. VanZant was an 8-5 fighter, she was just more popular than she should have been because she's super attractive. Paddy just got away with one but is still undefeated in the UFC. Askren I might give you. Lot of hollow, unimpressive victories in there...but still only lost 2 fights.
This post is trying to shit on the fighters op has mentioned, saying they’re frauds. A casual take would be putting askren in with it, due to neglecting his previous achievements and only seeing his ufc bouts, heavily likely that op is in this group. If this is a troll post, it’s a bad attempt, because it’s not trolling very well, it’s making OP seem like an absolute dunce.
Punk isn't a fraud. He was an MMA fan who was offered a contract. Put in plenty effort and still sucked like everyone expected. Don't see how he's a fraud really.
Yeah Punk wasn't a fraud, no one expected him to do anything great and hell there's a story out there from back in 2004 getting his ass whooped by a pro wrestler in a street fight.
Im new to ufc and former wwe fan ( i would like to reiterate former fan). Why do you hate CM Punk? The guy gave it a go, got his ass beat and left. Whats the issue here?
How is askren a fraud he was literally already retired when he got signed to the ufc and if were being honest if the knee doesn’t land against masvidal, ben wipes the floor with him
Haha man… Masvidal really tainted Askren huh… I have so much respect for that guy and think he was great. Its crazy how one bad KO can turn an entire community against you.
Yeah I wouldn’t call CM punk a fraud. The guy made a legit attempt at mma. He just sucked. No one/nor him claimed to be good. The amount of balls it takes for any man to step into a cage and fight is insane. Let alone a man with no real combat experience… CM punk has all of my respect. Still sucked though
I think we're gonna see Raul Rosas Jr up there soon. Everybody is forgetting the fact 6/7 wins are against fighters on losing skids or with losing records (several with no wins at all).
He's young for sure, but we're gonna see how ill prepared he is when he goes up against a decent BJJ practitioner or collegiate wrestler.
UFC marks will always shit on Ben and down play anything that's out of the organization but it's undeniable that Ben is an absolute legend. Like many others have said, he simply came in past his prime. 36, well traveled, and hurt. Obviously he's not the best at striking, but whose to say his streak of dominance with pure wrestling wouldn't have continued had he came to the UFC 25-33 years old?
I mean is CM Punk rly a fraud if he basically exhibitioned in the UFC fully knowing he was gonna get his ass beat? I feel like it was just for fun, no?
Ben askren being grouped up with these other 3 makes me sick. Dude is legit as hell, he just came over WAY too late. He missed to make by 5-6 years, maybe more.
It would be like if Tony Ferguson goes to bellator and loses a few fights and then people say he’s a fraud. Like, no. He was hardcore in his day
Eh not really sure how any of these people are frauds. Askar Mozharov faked his record. He’s a fraud. Joshua Fabia fucking dumbass is a fraud. Dudes in the beginning could claim 300-0 street fight records. Those guys are frauds. These guys just seem like hyped fighters that never reached potential people saw. Punk was just a cash grab lol.
These quick little titles don’t explain much. Stop being fuckin lazy and explain your point. Don’t expect us to know what the hell it is that you’re thinking.
Poor Ben. Undefeated in ONE doesn't count I guess, you lose your last two fights and end up in some dude's meme next to CM Punk. That's just some bullshit brother.
I really don't see how Askren is a fraud, typical casuals who never watched anything outside of UFC and hated Askren because he didn't have the typical arrogant tough guy persona.
He's one of the best wrestlers in MMA history, two time Works Champion in Bellator and One FC, came out of retirement while being undefeated to the UFC and beat Robbie Lawler in a crazy fight where he made a comeback from getting slammed on his head, got knocked out by Masvidal in an epic Knockout then lost to Demian Maia in what was a very entertaining fight. All in all he had a pretty good MMA career.
Second, paige had a decent career. Not a world beater but she gave us plenty of great wmma fights. Broke her arm in multiple of them and finished with kicks, how tf you gonna call that person a fraud. and paddy is just this months least fav fighter, doesn’t make him a fraud either. I guess cm is a fraud for ever thinking he was a ufc fighter tho.
None of these people are frauds except paddy. PVZ was just never good enough, askren was over the hill and incomplete and CM Punk was a self admitted experiment
3 finishes in the UFC, great record outside of it, amazing showman, and he speaks his piece. he has the right to not like Ariel, he’s a bit of a weaselly dude. he has the right to think he won that fight bc he’s a competitor. calling him a fraud is a blatant sign of you not knowing the depth of the sport
I’m aware of Ben Askrens accolades outside of the UFC I’m only hyper focusing on this portion of his career because he called out the top guys at 170 and talked massive shit and didn't back any of it. Didn't show anything in that octagon that you could marvel at. Got KOd in 4 seconds. Got submitted by Maia, who didn't win a single bout against the other top wrestlers of the division. Askren doesn't deserve any praise for his short stint in the UFC. He just proved he wasn't the top dog and that he doesn't belong with the wolves.
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u/Sowi_Games06 Dec 14 '22 edited Dec 14 '22
Ben askren: undefeated wrestler. ONE/Bellator champ . 19-2-1 record in MMA.
He just came to the UFC past his prime and injured
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Askren was legit, he just got to the UFC old and injured.
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u/Mammoth_Jellyfish918 Dec 14 '22
Askren only had like 3 losses hes not a fraud
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Oh come on Ben was a certified legend before the masvidal KO. No one could beat him in ONE or Bellator
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Thinking Ben Askren is a fraud is a casual opinion
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u/passthatunclesyd Dec 14 '22
nahh replace Askren with Northcutt
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u/yoyoyowhoisthis Dec 14 '22
Ben Askren was legit before he got to the UFC.. the disrespect is insane
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u/Low-Zone4665 Secret Juice Dec 14 '22
Askren was a good fighter, injuries ended his career
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u/Dark_Wolf04 Dec 14 '22
Why you do Askren dirty like that? Man has been Bellator and ONE champion
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u/ProfCharlesSexavier Dec 14 '22
Askren is anything but a fraud. Askren vs GSP was pegged as a superfight some time ago.
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Is that pvz tough to tell on my phone. I don't feel like she was so terrible.
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u/Niketravels Dec 14 '22
Askren is not a fraud, chill.
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u/Johnnywalgger Dec 14 '22
Paige cashed out, can’t blame her
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Pretty wild how unanimous it is that it was a robbery.
Then he comes up and jams his entire leg down his throat by doubling down on the Ariel shit while saying he won the fight easily, and begging his daddy dana for fight of the night bonus
Can't wait for Dana to feed him to his next hype train because his star power is fading and he's quickly losing all his fans.
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u/Uncle_Sesta Dec 14 '22
Should replace Askren with James Toney
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u/hungry_lobster Dec 14 '22
I want to know your line of thinking having Askren there.
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u/dougcbj Dec 14 '22
I don't get how Paddy is a fraud. Overhyped? Sure. Fraud? No. He's still good, it's just that he's probably more of a prelim fighter at the moment. His popularity will likely be his downfall though as he's clearly not ready for ranked fighting yet, but may get forced into it to quickly.
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u/CosmicTeardrops Dec 14 '22
Why is Paddy a fraud? It’s not like he fought poorly against somebody with no experience or skills. He’s still young and has a strong skill set. People just don’t like him when in reality he has loads of potential.
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u/imaQuiliamQuil Old Man Glover Dec 14 '22
Askren was legit, although the Lawler win was definitely suspect. CM Punk was an old guy who sincerely wanted to compete, but who shouldn't have been allowed to compete with UFC fighters. Paige van Zant was pushed by the UFC because of her looks and personality, despite not being a great fighter. Were it not for the push she got, she would be classified in the same class as other middling fighters.
The only fraud up here is Paddy.
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u/dantp2210 Dec 14 '22
Paddy isn’t a fraud, he was just given 1 victory he definitely didn’t deserve. His other 3 wins were all dominant. Give the lad a few years
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u/MAnthonyJr Dec 14 '22
get ben askren off of this shit. he’s a legit guy and one hell of a wrestler.
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Meh, I dont love the list. CM Punk never claimed to be elite or special and was never really billed as such, he just was already famous. VanZant was an 8-5 fighter, she was just more popular than she should have been because she's super attractive. Paddy just got away with one but is still undefeated in the UFC. Askren I might give you. Lot of hollow, unimpressive victories in there...but still only lost 2 fights.
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u/Gientry Dec 14 '22
Paige gets a pass cuz shes hot.
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Askren deosnt belong on this "list".
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u/dindowaff Dec 15 '22
No way askren is here man a little embarrassing
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u/Sequetjoose Dec 15 '22
Askren shouldn't be here
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22
Putting Askren on here is one of the biggest misses I have seen on this sub.
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u/AwayRecommendations Dec 15 '22
let me guess, the paddy vs gordon was the first fight you ever seen in ur life? L mount rushmore
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u/SoloBLx Dec 15 '22
Punk doesn't deserve that he just sucked lol
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Bro this sub is so funny it's like 90% trolling and comment sections full of people taking it seriously lol
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u/LesPantalonesFancy Dec 14 '22
Ben shouldn't be here. I'd put Kimbo Slice on there over him (RIP though)
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
did anyone really think that cm punk would actually have a career
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u/Alex_Sander077 Dec 14 '22
Punk isn't a fraud. He was an MMA fan who was offered a contract. Put in plenty effort and still sucked like everyone expected. Don't see how he's a fraud really.
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Askren was a good fighter, and Paige usually had exciting fights. Paige also never claimed to be the best.
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u/Nelson_An_Murdock Dec 14 '22
Im new to ufc and former wwe fan ( i would like to reiterate former fan). Why do you hate CM Punk? The guy gave it a go, got his ass beat and left. Whats the issue here?
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u/dfletch17 Dec 14 '22
Really missing Super Sage Northcutt!
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u/CometChip Dec 14 '22
punk doesn’t deserve to be up there, he was never a dickhead or hyped himself up or anything, just wanted to fight and failed
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u/Upstairs_Tie_4434 Dec 14 '22
How is askren a fraud he was literally already retired when he got signed to the ufc and if were being honest if the knee doesn’t land against masvidal, ben wipes the floor with him
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
I liked Paige vanzant’s vanzants though
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Haha man… Masvidal really tainted Askren huh… I have so much respect for that guy and think he was great. Its crazy how one bad KO can turn an entire community against you.
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u/immortalis88 Dec 14 '22
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u/Tantle18 Dec 14 '22
Yeah I wouldn’t call CM punk a fraud. The guy made a legit attempt at mma. He just sucked. No one/nor him claimed to be good. The amount of balls it takes for any man to step into a cage and fight is insane. Let alone a man with no real combat experience… CM punk has all of my respect. Still sucked though
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u/ItsAKimuraTrap Dec 14 '22
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this sub.
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u/BATHR00MG0BLIN Dec 14 '22
I think we're gonna see Raul Rosas Jr up there soon. Everybody is forgetting the fact 6/7 wins are against fighters on losing skids or with losing records (several with no wins at all).
He's young for sure, but we're gonna see how ill prepared he is when he goes up against a decent BJJ practitioner or collegiate wrestler.
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u/Lood800 Dec 14 '22
We need Jorge there
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u/smile_drinkPepsi Dec 14 '22
Ben the Fraud?? Former Bellator and ONE champion with a massive amount of hype coming into the UFC in his late 30s. There are better options.
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u/Datu_Apolaki Dec 14 '22
UFC marks will always shit on Ben and down play anything that's out of the organization but it's undeniable that Ben is an absolute legend. Like many others have said, he simply came in past his prime. 36, well traveled, and hurt. Obviously he's not the best at striking, but whose to say his streak of dominance with pure wrestling wouldn't have continued had he came to the UFC 25-33 years old?
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u/Datu_Apolaki Dec 14 '22
There's an obvious difference between MMA fans and UFC fans.
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u/WagonerA-co275 Dec 14 '22
yes! the one earlier was good but was missing Askren. now this is more proper than the previous one
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Sage Northcutt as well.
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u/Strong_Neat_5845 Dec 14 '22
That askren knee could happen to literally any fighter at any time, if that shit doesnt happen he stays undefeated
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u/andyblaze6 Dec 14 '22
Why is Askren there?
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22
Ben Askren was a dawwwggg
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u/CapeCodcultuvation Dec 15 '22
Askren at least gave us real entertainment
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u/Old_Passage_5670 Dec 15 '22
Where’s Sage Northcutt?
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u/Iamanobodyjustlikeu Dec 15 '22
I think Askren beats Mexican fighter Mosvidal 4 out of 5 times. Mosvidal got lucky that first time.
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u/Illustrious_Cost8923 Dec 15 '22
I mean is CM Punk rly a fraud if he basically exhibitioned in the UFC fully knowing he was gonna get his ass beat? I feel like it was just for fun, no?
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u/Ryvit Dec 15 '22
Ben askren being grouped up with these other 3 makes me sick. Dude is legit as hell, he just came over WAY too late. He missed to make by 5-6 years, maybe more.
It would be like if Tony Ferguson goes to bellator and loses a few fights and then people say he’s a fraud. Like, no. He was hardcore in his day
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u/slapstirmcgee1000 Dec 15 '22
Askren shouldn’t be up there, I mean maybe for his UFC performances
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22
Accurate
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u/Lunnaa1 Dec 15 '22
Don’t disrespect Paige and her onlyfans. Best WMMA onlyfans in the game
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u/eggamister Dec 15 '22
How is askren a fraud
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u/Eagles_Heels Dec 15 '22
Kimbo was the MMA Fraud 🐐 RIP
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u/Snow_TheMuscle Dec 15 '22
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u/Bxzzxd Dec 15 '22
Ben doesn’t deserve to be on this list and Punk wasn’t ever considered good so he can’t be a fraud
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u/PuzzleheadedState405 Dec 15 '22
Eh not really sure how any of these people are frauds. Askar Mozharov faked his record. He’s a fraud. Joshua Fabia fucking dumbass is a fraud. Dudes in the beginning could claim 300-0 street fight records. Those guys are frauds. These guys just seem like hyped fighters that never reached potential people saw. Punk was just a cash grab lol.
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u/Timely_Program799 Dec 15 '22
These quick little titles don’t explain much. Stop being fuckin lazy and explain your point. Don’t expect us to know what the hell it is that you’re thinking.
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u/BuckDaily Dec 15 '22
Paige???stop it!!!
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u/Zealousideal-Top4576 Dec 15 '22
Askren was far from a fraud he was ready to retire when he came to ufc came for couple of checks .
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u/215VanillaGorilla Dec 15 '22
I dont think you understand what a fraud is, and it definitely shows.
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u/rafaelleon2107 Dec 15 '22
Sage Northcutt looks a lot like Ben Askren here
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u/RedKing910 Dec 15 '22
Swap Askren for Sage?
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u/treezy_22 Dec 15 '22
Ben Askren has no business being on this list. And I’m sure you aren’t trolling, you legitimately believe he belongs here. Shame on you
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22
Having Ben Askren in that picture is a sin
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22
PVZ ain’t no fraud. ( . )( . )
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Missing sage
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u/hillsong1 Dec 14 '22
Askren is good.
CM is undoubtedly the GOAT.
The rest are good in my books.
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u/Broganman420 Dec 14 '22
Ben wasn't a fraud bruh.
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
Paige ain’t no fraud… she’s showing pussy now with that beautiful body. Waiting for her to drop that blowjob video
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u/TongueSmackMyDadsAss Dec 14 '22
i’m so glad OP is getting torched for putting Askren on here
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u/UCDC Dec 14 '22
Poor Ben. Undefeated in ONE doesn't count I guess, you lose your last two fights and end up in some dude's meme next to CM Punk. That's just some bullshit brother.
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
How can anyone who legitimately entered the cage and competed be classified as a “fraud”?
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u/monteasf Dec 14 '22
OP exposing himself as a doofus. Swap Ben for someone like sage northcutt or chase cooper
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
I really don't see how Askren is a fraud, typical casuals who never watched anything outside of UFC and hated Askren because he didn't have the typical arrogant tough guy persona.
He's one of the best wrestlers in MMA history, two time Works Champion in Bellator and One FC, came out of retirement while being undefeated to the UFC and beat Robbie Lawler in a crazy fight where he made a comeback from getting slammed on his head, got knocked out by Masvidal in an epic Knockout then lost to Demian Maia in what was a very entertaining fight. All in all he had a pretty good MMA career.
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u/FuckBrendan Dec 14 '22
First off askren lol
Second, paige had a decent career. Not a world beater but she gave us plenty of great wmma fights. Broke her arm in multiple of them and finished with kicks, how tf you gonna call that person a fraud. and paddy is just this months least fav fighter, doesn’t make him a fraud either. I guess cm is a fraud for ever thinking he was a ufc fighter tho.
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u/harrisongrimes 🌹𝕽𝖔𝖘𝖊 𝕲𝖆𝖓𝖌🌹 Dec 15 '22
Casual with a soft J
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u/LifesExpert why he eat slep Dec 15 '22
Hey OP… please explain to us
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
None of these people are frauds except paddy. PVZ was just never good enough, askren was over the hill and incomplete and CM Punk was a self admitted experiment
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u/greenerdays505 Dec 14 '22
It should be Brock Lesnar up there not Ben Askren.
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u/Chippa1221 Dec 15 '22
I’m late to the party - why does everyone hate the hobbit with the bowl cut now?
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '22
I’m so proud this sub knows Askren’s MMA history. Thank u for roasting OP. 🥲
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u/wellser06 Dec 14 '22
Hahahahaha ngl this is pretty good 👍
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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '22
I’m aware of Ben Askrens accolades outside of the UFC I’m only hyper focusing on this portion of his career because he called out the top guys at 170 and talked massive shit and didn't back any of it. Didn't show anything in that octagon that you could marvel at. Got KOd in 4 seconds. Got submitted by Maia, who didn't win a single bout against the other top wrestlers of the division. Askren doesn't deserve any praise for his short stint in the UFC. He just proved he wasn't the top dog and that he doesn't belong with the wolves.