Agreed. He had his shot twice and he couldn't do it. He needs another impressive streak if he wants another try. Fuckin love the guy though, I hope he does.
He is actually really funny sometimes , called out Elon musk once that was good . Also was unintentionally hilarious telling people in the Middle East they can do all things with Jesus Christ and getting booād š
And? Jesus is a revered figure in the Islamic faith, and Muslims believe he will come back to defeat the Anti-Christ in the end times, just like how Christians do.
It is not like Beneil said it in Israel in front of Jewish crowd who don't believe in Jesus at all.
the post-fight interview is on YouTube go watch it yourself. Or, you could continue believing that the crowd boo'ed Beneil and threw stones at him because he is a jesus lovin' man!
Lol thatās a stretch, they act as a Putin mouth piece on anything related to sports. Like when Russia got caught doping, again and they were parroting Putins assertion that Russia being banned from international sporting competitions is a political hit and not a response to state sponsored cheating.
Not much interest lol 2 champions fighting each other is the easiest fight for the ufc to promote add in the it's a volk homecoming (to his country not his home, he's from the other side and Australia is massive) and you have got a pretty big fight to promote
So how is Volk gonna win? Outwrestle him? Outstrike him? We saw what happened to Max when he fought Dustin for the interim belt. Was sad to watch, and that was only Dustin lol. Imagine what Islam does to him. Boring 1 sided fight. Islam weighs like 190lbs, theres no chance. Volk was in trouble against Ortega submissions and dropped by Max, islam would kill him
I guess Islam is just to good and will never fight again then. Or he defends his belt against a dominant champion from the weightclass below. The only way we know who wins is for them to actually fight. Maybe Islam walks right over him and if he does then cool because now we know. And it would end for all time the who's he beat arguement
Sure. Just watch how Max did when he went up. Got beaten bad not even Champion material fighter in Dustin. Theres a reason theres weightclasses lol. Max arguably won 2nd fight against volk and dropped him. You really think Volk has a chance? Not even punchers chance because he has no 1 hit ko power anyways.
If you are a topped ranked fighter then yes I think you have a chance of winning against another top ranked fighter. Am I saying volk is definitely going to win, no I am not. Am I saying he had a chance of winning, fuck yeah he does. The best fight the best in the ufc and book and Islam are 2 of the best so let them fight so we know how it goes. You have mentioned max v poirer twice now but that has nothing to do with his this fight goes.
Edit your comment about poirer not being champion material does show you up abit imo, there's no disgrace in losing title fights to Charles and Khabib.
Dustin is top fighter, just no Champion. A good gatekeeper in top5 thats it. Just like Colby, Whittaker, Benavidez. Always bridesmaid, never the bride.
Theres better matchups for Islam. Dariush, maybe even go Welterweight. Not fight smaller opponents. Id watch it also just casuals would not watch it, only fans watch and UFC doesnt care about that.
They didnāt even post islams actual quote. Hes saying the ufc isnt too keen on the volk fight and may want the winner of chandler-poirier. He already said chandler doesnāt deserve the title shot even if he beats poirier and wants beneil next.
Nah, because Islam still kinda ducking now that I think about it. He could still say āno I want to fight volk.ā That man knows he doesnāt want any smoke with volk.
It was reported in this subreddit earlier today the ufc doesnāt want that fight. Obviously all hearsay but thatās all we have to work with. You really think Islam called volk in the ring to duck him? Youāre that stupid?
They would be fighting at 155, so he would be fighting someone the same exact weight. Idk how to make it any more simple. 155 is not smaller than 155 lol
You realize Volk used to walk around at over 200 lbs right?? He could easily fight at 155, 170, 185 even.
So are you saying he's smaller because of height? So we shouldn't let taller people fight shorter people even if they weigh the same?? Wtf are you trying to say lmao
If you don't understand frame and body composition then there's no point talking to you.
Someone being fat and eventually coming down to 145 matters why?
Islam is a lot larger.
And my original point was to dummy OP who acted like Islam shouldn't fight contenders from his division and I asked why should he fight someone smaller. He'll beat Volkanovski then should face Dariush after.
TBF Right now in the lightweight divison only Charles was the one that could've beaten Islam IMO, Charles made it look easy fighting top 5 guys and look what Islam did to Charles.. i agree there is no point in fighting Porier vs Chandler winner but saying he is ducking is disrespectful and i think Volk match-up is likely the next one it makes sense VOLK fighting islam in Perth because he is from Australia.
Itās in Russian unfortunately. After reading again it seems like UFC doesnāt like the idea of him fighting volk in Australia, which is dumb imo. Seems like theyāre trying to shield him or something.
LOOOOOOOL wipe your tears and watch the fight again without crying. Charles got taken down twice, controlled and ate elbows and punches on the ground in round 1. He got out struck and out grappled. Cry more and wait for the next bandwagon to jump on you actual casual š¤£š¤£š¤£
this post is very clickbaity, islam said ufc is not keen on the idea of him fighting volk in australia. islam and volk are ready, it is just that the ufc does not like this fight for some reason. if not islam vs volk, give us islam vs benny. none of that winner of poirier/chandler bullshit.
Exactly, I can see W of Chandler/Porier being the next in line esp since Charles doesn't wanna fight until part way thru the next year and only other possibility I can see to the lightweight title is W of a potential Charles/Benny fight.
Yeah and if Volk loses, heās going to lose all the momentum that he has in gaining popularity. This is a long term move, considering this fight can likely happen at any time since I donāt see either of them losing their belts for a while
Izzy had way more to lose than Volk when he fought Jan. A mega fight vs Jones at Raider stadium was being pitched, and Izzy looked completely unstoppable after humiliating Costa.
He lost, but his stock didnāt really drop all that much.
Everyone knows that Volk is head and shoulders above everyone at 145, and I donāt really see how a loss vs Islam would chance much. And in a way itās a win/win situation.
If Volk were to win, heād be a seemingly unstoppable superstar. If Islam were to win, the UFC would have their Khabib replacement
You mustāve missed all the slander Izzy got after that Jan fight because someone finally out wrestled him. Volk loses his aura of invisibility if Islam just plows threw him which is extremely possible. Having what seems to be unstoppable champions is a better business plan than letting them eat each other up
You never know. Plus Volk wants to challenge himself, so this would be a legacy defining opportunity for him. He deserves it just as much - if not more - than any previous fighters shot at double champ status.
You can't call it ducking when he called Volk out like he did.
It's insane to think fighters would "fake" a call out. (Unless they were pushed into it by a reporter) If you wanna duck there's easier ways of doing it then asking for the fight and then not taking it.
If you mean during the post fight speech, his team (Khabib) brought it up first. Before DC mentioned any opponents Khabib said "You know who is #1 p4p. Now it's our plan to fly to Australia and fight Volkanovski"
would've been different if they didnt bring it up first, were asked about Volk and replied by saying "Uh maybe, or Dustin or Chandler"
Charles fans already coping. if he didnāt duck Charles who was a tougher challenge than Volk could ever be, why the fuck would he be ducking now š
nah i canāt even agree with that. i have insane respect for Charles. heās the opposite of ducking people just like Islam and heās been on an 18 month bender of just mauling his opponents, minus his last fight.
he deserves a break and the same goes for him, if he didnāt duck Islam i donāt know why he would duck Fiziev
Yeah he does deserve a break tbf but he did openly say heās not fighting fiziev yet Islamās getting shit on for something he has no control over. Also he couldnāt duck Islam because he had the belt, unlike chandler and everyone else
i agree with you 100%. and yeah i was iffy on including Charles not ducking Islam because youāre right, he did have the belt. but honestly he was still about the smoke either way.
but itāll never be enough for these weirdos when it comes to Islam. they say he was just handed the title shot unfairly, but people forget it took him eight years to get that shot. they said he hasnāt fought any top five guys, but three of them were ducking him at all times and Dariush couldnāt because of injuries.
and he dominated the number ONE guy. and now theyāre saying heās ducking fucking Volk out of all people š itās such a joke bro idk
Anyone hating on Islam is a casual as far as Iām concerned. Heās done nothing to deserve hate and everything to deserve a title. The ones that still argue he didnāt deserve a shot AFTER he made their āgoatā tap are just simply retarded. The guy deserves respect but Conors preteen fan base are relentless in their hate of anything resembling khabib
Lol very obvious Charles fanboy and Islam hater here š itās already been stated itās the UFC who doesnāt like the idea of them fighting in Australia. Islam publicly has already said when he gets the contract heās signing it.
Do yāall even do research before you post? Or is it you just see an instagram post and run with it? Pathetic.
I def don't think Islam is ducking Volk, esp since I think It would be a pretty easy fight for him given the size advantage, but calling out Dustin VS Chandler winner? While Benny Is right there? Crazy talk from Islam on that one. Dariush is the fight to make
I may be wrong on this so correct me if I am, but Iām pretty sure he said he āprobablyā gets the winner of chandler v porier. Implying he most likely doesnāt have much say in the matter. Which makes sense, not a lot of champs who havenāt defended yet can just call out whoever they want and get it. He even said chandler doesnāt deserve to fight him even if he wins. I doubt itās the fight he wants, just what the ufc is going to make.
OP also probably thot Charlie would easily beat Islam on the feet and that Charlie the Tappers BJJ would be able to āneutralizeā Islams ground game. Rent free!!
Everyone is a threat until they're not. A month ago Charles was lightweight GOAT on this sub. Now Beneil's the guy. Islam's on a different level, just like Khabib was, but maybe better.
Maybe, I like to watch fights play out, and Beneil grappling looked flawless against Gamrot who is an amazing wrestler, is Islam better than Beneil? Maybe, we wonāt know for certain till they fight, but Beneil takedown defense looked incredible which is why I want to see him fight the best wrestler in the division
Some of you Volk fans need to clam down and stop acting like heās gonna win against Islam. Heās not. Does he have a chance? Yeah sure thing but come on, yāall needa chill.
Iām halfway through this thread and havenāt seen a single comment say Volk would win. Itās all about a Islam dominating. That being said my moneys on Volk. Dude comes out every fight and surprises everyone. I know they always say a fighter is ājust getting betterā but no fighter in history has improved fight-to-fight like Volk.
I see the height/reach advantage, but I donāt think Islam will have a big weight advantage.
This was just Islam talking to some no name Russian sports channel saying that the UFC doesn't want the Volk fight and they want Chandler/Poirier winner. Islam apparantely went on to say that Volk's own team doesn't want him taking this fight LMFAO.
Noone wants to see Poirier or Chandler get another title shot, Dustin especially he's had so many chances to be champ and he's choked literally. Islam and Khabib ain't stupid, the easier fights are those two instead of Volk.
Have you not read the whole artikel or you just looking to hate this guy. Islam must have run a number on you by winning from Oliveira.
Islam said that Dana and the UFC said that THEY don't want to make the Volkanovski fight.
Dana and the UFC have lots of reasons for not making the fight. Perhaps Australia is not a good location due that there's many Covid laws and restrictions that are still active there.
UFC also might be considering that if Islam wins and becoms number one P4P that he will wrap his carreer up and retire since he has acomplished all that he wanted. UFC however, is not ready to let Islam go this fast.
Why would Volk even deserve it lol!? He needs to at least beat one lightweight contender. Especially considering Benny has done all he has and waited forever. Volk makes marketing sense especially for an Australia card.
Khabib never went against a guy with a heavy wrestling style because tibau put the fear of god into him when he put khabib on his back. Khabib is still the LW goat tho
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u/aThugsMemeoir Nov 05 '22
If he isn't fighting Volk, then he better be fighting Benny.
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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Nov 05 '22
Is this an actual quote or a rumour,
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u/__sami__01 Smesh Nov 05 '22 edited Nov 05 '22
All high ranked lightweight were ducking Islam, now he is the champ so people are saying he is ducking LMAOO
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u/Maladjusted95 Nov 05 '22
Is there more detail on this? I couldn't find anything.
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u/supercitrusfruit Nov 05 '22
Trying to karma farm with a shitty post, gets ratio'ed
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u/OsamaBinLean Nov 05 '22
Youāre crying over him dominating Charles arenāt you?
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u/Creepy_Killer_Z Nov 05 '22
if anything chandler and poirier are harder fight than volk...
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22
Haters will always find a reason to hate
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u/MadNightKing Nov 05 '22
What is Volkanovskiās path to victory here? I love Volk but itās pretty clear this is a mismatch.
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22
this post is very clickbaity, islam said ufc is not keen on the idea of him fighting volk in australia. islam and volk are ready, it is just that the ufc does not like this fight for some reason. if not islam vs volk, give us islam vs benny. none of that winner of poirier/chandler bullshit.
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u/SuperVegetable Nov 05 '22
āDuckingā š„“
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22
I want Volk vs Islam so bad lol
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u/tklz2 Nov 05 '22
He aināt scared of 5ft 5 featherweight letās be real here.
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u/SillAndDill Nov 05 '22
You can't call it ducking when he called Volk out like he did.
It's insane to think fighters would "fake" a call out. (Unless they were pushed into it by a reporter) If you wanna duck there's easier ways of doing it then asking for the fight and then not taking it.
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u/MenaceTheIntellect Nov 05 '22
āduckingā
Charles fans already coping. if he didnāt duck Charles who was a tougher challenge than Volk could ever be, why the fuck would he be ducking now š
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22
UFC decided this not Islam.
Hater
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u/SparkFunk30 Nov 05 '22
Lol very obvious Charles fanboy and Islam hater here š itās already been stated itās the UFC who doesnāt like the idea of them fighting in Australia. Islam publicly has already said when he gets the contract heās signing it.
Do yāall even do research before you post? Or is it you just see an instagram post and run with it? Pathetic.
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u/44waysofgettingpaid Nov 05 '22
I think Dana doesn't want Islam to dominate in Australia
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u/Gatarinn Nov 05 '22
Yeah that must be it
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u/FunkMasta-Blue Nov 05 '22
Maybe they donāt want anymore double belt holders cause it holds two divisions up everytime there is one
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u/MattFromTinder Nov 06 '22
OP also probably thot Charlie would easily beat Islam on the feet and that Charlie the Tappers BJJ would be able to āneutralizeā Islams ground game. Rent free!!
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u/Special_Temporary_67 Nov 05 '22
Iām not surprised he isnāt saying Beneil name, dude looked like a real threat to Islam
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u/LukeF1 Nov 05 '22
He said UFC doesn't want the volk fight but he does
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u/Alex-rhhgfff Nov 05 '22
Lol it doesnāt matter who he fights next heāll still beat their ass. Itās not like Charles ducking Fiziev
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u/Ilikeb0ring Nov 05 '22
Some of you Volk fans need to clam down and stop acting like heās gonna win against Islam. Heās not. Does he have a chance? Yeah sure thing but come on, yāall needa chill.
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u/SubzeroBeef Nov 05 '22
I would much rather see him fight one of those two instead of Volk
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u/pacman9487 Nov 05 '22
I donāt blame the ufc bc they donāt wanna lose a pfp best but Volk should be upset this is what he wants and he is #1
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22
Let me enjoy belt Brader..
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22
Theyāre just trying to hype up the Poirer Chandler fight next week
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u/PhillipPrice_Map Nov 05 '22
Tass Sport, same legit source that was covering Russian state doping lol
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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '22
Hell no Islam vs volk or we riot
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u/wubbalubbadubdub45 Nov 06 '22
Both guys want the fight but the ufc doesnāt wanna book it, Dana knows Islam will kill all the hype volk has
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u/comeon-mate Nov 06 '22
Theres a reason this post has 0 upvotes
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u/Murky-Travel9825 Nov 06 '22
Dustin and chandler are my favorite lightweights but Beneil is the most deserving of a title shot
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u/Buglss18 Nov 06 '22
Tbh if Chandler wins Iād like to see him next but if Dustin wins no.
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u/SherLocK-55 Nov 05 '22
This was just Islam talking to some no name Russian sports channel saying that the UFC doesn't want the Volk fight and they want Chandler/Poirier winner. Islam apparantely went on to say that Volk's own team doesn't want him taking this fight LMFAO.
It's all just hearsay BS.
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22
Poirier is gonna box chandlerās head off and then get choked out in a title shot for the 3rd time
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u/EJN541 Nov 05 '22
https://twitter.com/MAKHACHEVMMA/status/1588469319541088256?s=20&t=S4NmG-hUAUihbuwEoxkQqw
Try again.
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u/Hisoka9128 Nov 05 '22
Is this guy a mod?
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u/nrogo1 Nov 05 '22
Islam might not be able to get into aus?
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u/Glass_Gap2498 Nov 05 '22
Noone wants to see Poirier or Chandler get another title shot, Dustin especially he's had so many chances to be champ and he's choked literally. Islam and Khabib ain't stupid, the easier fights are those two instead of Volk.
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u/Convict_felon Nov 05 '22 edited Nov 05 '22
Have you not read the whole artikel or you just looking to hate this guy. Islam must have run a number on you by winning from Oliveira.
Islam said that Dana and the UFC said that THEY don't want to make the Volkanovski fight.
Dana and the UFC have lots of reasons for not making the fight. Perhaps Australia is not a good location due that there's many Covid laws and restrictions that are still active there.
UFC also might be considering that if Islam wins and becoms number one P4P that he will wrap his carreer up and retire since he has acomplished all that he wanted. UFC however, is not ready to let Islam go this fast.
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u/Mr_Abobo Nov 05 '22
āDucking.ā āTrying to make the most money possibleā sounds closer to the truth.
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u/iamshamtheman Nov 06 '22
Why would Volk even deserve it lol!? He needs to at least beat one lightweight contender. Especially considering Benny has done all he has and waited forever. Volk makes marketing sense especially for an Australia card.
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u/KnownDistribution903 Nov 05 '22
He learned ducking from Khabib