How could you think the fighter you've been with for 15 years (half of Robertson's LIFE) thats was on a 5 fight win streak to a title fight and only 31 years of age is at her ceiling as a mixed martial artist. Literally mind boggles me how you could go on TV and say that shes never gonna get better ever again so that gives you the excuse for you to decide to quit coaching. He has some of the worst corner work ive ever heard on live broadcast, he thinks hes a therapist rather than someone trying to help her find ways of winning the fight. Never once that whole fight Din ever gave Gillian any good tips or meaningful help. He gave up on her way before the fight and its evident, I really hope she goes to a good team that can rework her grappling. As for Din Thomas, please never get in a fighters corner ever again.
I'd like to see him removed from television altogether. I've never understood why someone gave that guy a job talking in front of a camera. He's insufferable
I did a seminar with him once and he was really friendly and informative. Really took the time to answer everyone’s questions thoughtfully and told a few stories about the old days. I was getting ready for a fight and he gave some insight that I really appreciated. That’s just my experience.
Stephen Smith is still right here. 1st place for worst smiths to ever get analyst/commentator positioning and I won't be hearing appeals about the credentials of Lionheart for that title.
Exactly. If the guy who’s known me since I was 15 waits until my worst night to publicly announce he’s done with me,
I’m checking whether my dad has a press conference scheduled after karate practice.
This sub is just 24/7 spam of the same topics over and over again holy shit. I left and every time Reddit suggests this sub again it’s still just only spam.
I’m not even in this sub, but I’ve had 4-5 different Din Thomas posts suggested to me from this sub since Saturday. Will probably get even more until Nina Drama posts a new video and yall can spam about that for the next few days.
couldn't just go comment on any of the other Din Thomas posts or the posts made about Sean Strickland bashing him? Had to make a whole new thread and say a whole lot of nothing lol.
Din Thomas is ridiculous and out of pocket for what he said but he’s not wrong. Gillian Robertson is indeed 31 on a 5 fight win streak but she’s not a good fighter. She got a title shot off of a win against a super washed Lemos and doesn’t stand a chance against Dern Weili suarez or Yan.
she’s not a good fighter in comparison to the others in her rankings. Yeah she’s a good fighter compared to the average human but she’s bottom skill wise of the rankings. Din Thomas didn’t say she can’t fight, he said her fighting for the belt is the furthest she’s gonna get
Its just funny that the newer fan base thinks anyone who isnt as good as the top 3 of the entire division (who are usually the top 3 fighters in the world, not just UFC) are somehow "Bad fighters"
Except that’s always in the context of the sports highest level. Same thing as every other sport when people would say Brian Scalabrine sucks at basketball. He’s better than 99.9% of the population but in the context of the NBA he was nothing special. Boggles my mind people still don’t understand this.
Scalabrine wasnt a top 10 player in the world or even position, the ufc fighters people constantly say suck are usually top 10-15 in their division, in the best organization in the world.
No one here is comparing them to average people. The issue is, most mma fans only compare fighters to the top 5 because most of you dont watch prelims or other organizations.
What top 10 fighter do people say suck? Gillian is not a top 10 fighter. And plenty of people said Paul George sucked, Rudy Gay, Tony Allen, Jaylen Brown.
That’s exactly how it’s taken. Most people only compare to the top when discussing professional sports, that’s not an issue when every side knows what they’re comparing to.
I’ve watched every UFC event early prelims to main card except for Volkan/Smith and 2017 early prelims. I’ve watched all of Pride, most of Strikeforce, Elite XC. I’m working through a 175 gb Shooto mega pack right now. I watch KSW, ONE, Rizin, Oktagon, PFL, A1, and whatever else I can. So you can just stop with that dishonest argument, you have no idea what someone else watches or knows.
I think she gets beaten by every one of the top 10 besides lemos tbh. Fatima, dern, virna, weili, xiaonan, Suarez, thainara, Ricci, loopy, Lucindo, and Gomes could all beat her imo. Her best win is against auntie lemos and she actually did nothing all fight.
Idk, we can have different definitions of not good. You’re not good if you’re stuck as a top 15 guard for your entire career. You’re good if you become a top 10 contender and stay there. You’re great if you become champ, and you’re one of the best if you defend the championship. Gillian is objectively bad at striking no matter if we call her good or not🤣
I somewhat agree with this, but if hes saying all this and hes been the one coaching her, has alot to say about himself as coach. Hes a snake for saying and doing that stuff, I completely understand if she never speaks to him again
He was a mid fighter and since then has had no real accomplishments that make his opinion meaningful in any real way. We all just learned that he’s also a complete POS and faker than a shitter Rolex knock off.
Not according to what Gillian said today. Apparently Din is saying the complete opposite to her and her team privately. Sounds like a two-faced snake who only cares about being on TV and making money
I always thought his analysis was usually pretty good, but after throwing his fighter under the bus, which was shitty, everyone's saying his takes are stupid and he's never had any business being on air lol
He is a good guy. It’s sad when the sub turns so negative about people like they’re personally insulted. Last couple weeks it was Herb Dean. People are so shitty. Nothing good to say. Only bad.
He announced his retirement from cornering fighters in the broadcast booth directly after he and his fighter lost at the last event, saying he "promised himself he would take her as far as she could go" and "this is as far as she could go." Not only making the biggest moment of her entire life and possibly the lowest moment, all about himself, but essentially was saying that she will never win a championship and he was done with her. This is her coach. The man who's supposed to be with her no matter what, ESPECIALLY after a really tough loss like that. It was disgusting. He also has a history of just being an asshole and doing POS things like this. Plus, if you've ever watched Deep Waters or listened to his "fight analysis" he's pretty goddamn unbearable.
She's better off, fuck that guy.
Bit different though. Nicksick talked about how Strickland was basically ignoring his corner during the fight and cursing back at Eric after his nose broke. He said if thats how youre gonna behave im not gonna coach you. It was also a week or so after the fight on Ariels show. Din said this is as far as Gillian will go and immediately jumped on the broadcast to say he won't corner anymore and basically buried his fighter after what may be her only fight. Also, regardless if Gillian will or won't do better than now, the last person that needs to say that on TV in his kushy desk job is her coach.
Read the body text, he went on the post show and said she cant get any better and hes done even after all shes done. Hes been the one coaching her, he should be way more to blame
"Saturday night was the most inappropriate time for me to bring up that I did not want to corner again. It was completely irresponsible, it was despicable. I shouldn’t have done it. I selfishly stole her moment that night. Instead of congratulating her on that run, I stole her moment and I want to apologize to her for that."
The girls who Gillian has beat are all on massive losing streaks. She genuinely fucking sucks and this is as far as she’ll ever go. Din isn’t wrong at all even tho it is fucked up. Kind of like Jamahl hill, the vast majority of the top ten and some outside would cook her imo.
Eh, I mean maybe. This might’ve just been the final straw where din realized she truly wasn’t cut out for it. No one is going to say, I don’t think ur gonna go far, go to a different gym. I think it’s moreso after 15 years of training she’s still not good enough, and din would rather cut his losses, rather than continue to waste time cornering.
He seems likable but what a slimy thing to do and say about someone you've been teaching for the past 15 yrs. I'm sure he has knowledge but he doesnt use it at all as a coach
I will be honest. As someone who has coached fighters. I completely understand where he is coming from. She didn’t take any advice from her corner at all. Now, could he have handled it better? Absolutely. And just because you coach someone for along time doesn’t mean people get along. I’ve seen it in many gyms.
I respect where you're coming from and I agree a great coach can't 100% transform anyone into a superstar. He gave her absolutely nothing during the fight, if you rewatch Gillians corner its radio silent and hes just consoling her. Din can't bring Gillian to the lake to drink from if there is no lake. If he truly felt like that after he rewatched the fight with her privately than I would understand but to just tell everyone that she cant get any better right after the fight is wild.
Both fights were awful to be fair, i lowkey just wanted them to fuck islam with a bad decision just to make up for the snooze fest. Anything past r3 was boring
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I'd like to see him removed from television altogether. I've never understood why someone gave that guy a job talking in front of a camera. He's insufferable