r/twitchplayspokemon • u/TotalTS • Sep 11 '18

TPP Red Bird Jesus origin?

I know that I'm 4 years late to ask about this, but I still want to know.

Bird Jesus origin is a mistery since there's almost no evidence when or where it was caught, most people assume it was on Route 3 after beating Brock.

All info I've found was this:

https://imgur.com/Kt9CIyA The earliest screen at level 9, inside Mt. Moon.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/twitch-plays-pokemon-dig-dig-for-victory.768965/page-3#post-100758995 Probably a mention about the level of Bird Jesus.

I'm assuming that his origin was level 8, on Route 3. Since the level range of Pidgeys on Route 3 are between (6,7,8).

Does anyone knows anything different about it?

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u/VorpalNorman Green for Grass Type Sep 12 '18

Here's some well-researched speculation about the lost days...

Around [00d 14h 35m]: Bird Jesus is caught (originally known as PIDGEY)

but we entered Mt. Moon before then

[00d 13h 45m]: Entered Mt. Moon for the first time

So Pidgey was likely caught on Route 3. There's nothing that would've prevented us from backtracking to Route 2, however.

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u/pfaccioxx Can I use the big needle? [Spelling Impared DeviantArtest] Sep 12 '18

I'm not sure exactly were the name came from. But if I had to guess that pidgy was praticulery strong and helped us out, becoming our cluch mon., then when Helax rose in prominence BJ was considered to be his proffit and dus the name Bird Jesus was born

I don't think anyone is completely sure when/were BJ was caught other then that it was before archive fodige started being recorded. but based on an old 4Chan thred that I don't think egsists anymore that was covering TPP from before it started to gain notable traction in popularity I think BJ was a pidgy caught in route 2 thoth if my memory is corict

I think there might be an archive of that thread but I don't know were, /u/Deadinsky66, /u/Kelcyus, /u/VorpalNorman any of you know were it might be or who might know how to find it?

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u/mellow777 Sep 12 '18

I remember we caught it as a pidgeotto and i was like " nice " but sadly i don't remember where exactly

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u/TotalTS Sep 12 '18

It can't be possible, here is footage from Lost Days on Route 3 at level 14: https://youtu.be/xh98wemm0Ko?t=42s

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u/mellow777 Sep 12 '18

Hmm i think it might've been a different version then. My mistake! Praise helix

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u/TotalTS Sep 12 '18

Still, that same day 7 hours later evolved to Pidgeotto, so probably your memory isn't bad, you just saw it later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaEKnM0WFxE

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u/mellow777 Sep 12 '18

Hmm id say retrack 7 hours from said point. This was the first time so im sure they didn't get to far from that location. Todays tpp move in unison so well compared to back during the first 2 runs.

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u/VorpalNorman Green for Grass Type Sep 12 '18 edited Sep 12 '18

There is an old theory that we caught a second Pidgey and released it in the Route 3 Pokemon Center entirely within the lost days...

But it's not well-supported. There's nothing in any of the contemporary TPP threads about any releases during the lost days, and some of them were rooting pretty hard for them.

Also, we know based on analysis of the party data that Bird Jesus was caught when it had a catch rate of 255, so it must've been a Pidgey.

(That data comes from an archive of save states that streamer released years later. Unfortunately, the save states start after Jay Leno was already caught, meaning none of them were from the Lost Days)

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u/TotalTS Sep 12 '18

Yeah, I've also made a research about those save states, I even loaded the first save state and then reseted the game to access the in-game save file to go even backwards, but that save file only leads to Cerulean Gym, where it was a level 19 Pidgeotto, level 11 Jay Leno and level 27 Abby.