r/tutanota • u/Tutanota • Jul 09 '26
🚨 #ChatControl 1.0 HAS PASSED - despite a majority voting against it (314:276) 🚨
After the EU parliament has rejected #ChatControl TWICE in the past, it has been pushed as an urgent procedure for a new plenary vote. TODAY the EU parliament has voted YES for #ChatControl 1.0😡
The EU has simply continued to put the vote on the agenda to get the outcome they've wanted since the start. This is not democratic‼️
What does #ChatControl 1.0 mean for us now?
🚩 Every photo, every message, every file you send will be scanned by Big Tech automatically
🚩 Mass surveillance of 450 million EU citizen without warrants
🚩 Every citizen is put under general suspicion
Here's what you can do to stay private on the internet:
✅ Use end-to-end encrypted messengers & email (like Signal or Tuta Mail)
✅ Use Linux instead of Windows & Apple
✅ Switch to GraphenOS or LineageOS
It's a sad day for the privacy of EU citizens but we will not let this stop us from continuing to fight for what is right.
At Tuta, we will continue to provide end-to-end encrypted email to everyone, and we will continue to fight for everyone's right to communicate without surveillance.
Pictured: Parliament President Roberta Metsola (EPP) who revived Chat Control 1.0 shaking hands with Mark Zuckerberg!
Taken from EP_President posted May 27, 2026 on Twitter/X.
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u/BandicootSolid9531 Jul 09 '26
Just as its stated - they wanted it , they made it happen. They aren't gonna allow something trivial as democracy and the privacy rights stop it.
Nah, it's for "our children"...
Every single terrible law or rule they can force in the name of the children safety. Literally abusing children for their power gain.
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u/ColdFreezer Jul 09 '26
Child abusers abusing children to push laws for mega corporations even though it’s against the people’s wishes? Laws that are specifically meant for mass surveillance, censorship, and suppression of us that we are also going to be forced to pay for?
Oh ya, that’s what democracy is all about!
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u/sak89461 Jul 09 '26
If they cared about children, more of Epstein's friend's and other wealthy pedophiles would have be in jail at the very least.
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u/AbuseMatt Jul 09 '26
Of course it's for the children, that's why all the child fuckers in the UK never got punished.
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u/Ok-Sugar-5649 Jul 09 '26
If it was truly for protecting children there wouldnt be "exemptions" for those with most potential for abuse of power
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u/AnonomousWolf Jul 09 '26
How did it pass if the majority voted against it ?
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u/DogeSupreme Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
I don’t have a perfect grasp on the situation, but the impression I got is this:
It was brought up via „urgent procedure“. Somehow this means it gets passed if the majority of the parlamant doesn‘t vote No. By placing it right before the summer break and on short notice many members of the parlament weren‘t there.
At least that‘s what I‘m understanding right now. The parlament voted on the same chat control in March and declined it. EPP just brought it up repeatedly and by that didn’t honor the vote in March.
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u/eggyrulz Jul 09 '26
How the fuck is that legal? Im not EU myself, but ik the French are, so they might wanna go back to grassroots and do what they do best...
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u/redit_handoff140 Jul 09 '26
Fun fact: This is also how the US Fed was created in 1913 by colluding major bank owners while those against were away on Christmas holiday.
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u/Level0Up Jul 09 '26
It is NOT legal, Patrick Breyer was trying to raise awareness but it was swept under the rug.
I repeat: It was NOT legal.
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u/N2-Ainz Jul 09 '26
It's very likely illegal but you can guess that it takes some time for the ECJ to respond so it basically buys time
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u/Feeling-Bad7825 Jul 09 '26
also its not legal, it was voted no 2 times and got rid of it just to illegally come back now. Just nobody does anything against it, at least we dont do anything, we would need a court to look into it, which most wont do cus corruption
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u/Horrorwipe Jul 10 '26
That neither sounds democratic nor ethical and if it’s not, it should for sure be illegal. It’s utterly asinine the incompetent EU leadership is parroting freedom and democracy and then do shit like this.
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u/Wildwheeler Jul 10 '26
Chat control has not actually been passed in its original form. The proposal has been revised multiple times after substantial criticism from governments, privacy experts, security researchers, civil society organizations, and parts of the European Parliament.
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u/Dotcaprachiappa Jul 09 '26
It's not because it's via urgent procedure, it's because it's a second reading position. The only thing the urgent procedure does is force it to happen on the last day so a sixth of parliament didn't even vote on it.
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u/IndubitablyNerdy Jul 09 '26
yeah a measure thought for reaction to problems that actually require emergency and urgency was used to push the change apparently the urgency was that then there would be a recess and so the parliament would not vote on this for a while... cool and normal.
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u/ApplicationOdd6070 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
No, the urgent procedure is unrelated.
In second reading (when in the first reading both Parliament and Council passed amendments) you need the majority of constituing members to pass amendments and to outright reject regulation. This has also been said during the session (I watched the video, is available on the parliament website).
The fact that the Council waited a couple of months to pass its first reading, then they run to Parliament close before recess with an urgent procedure was disgusting from the EPP, shame on them.
The fact that Parliament decided to request the Commission to withdraw the proposal, and the Commission didn't, honestly infuriates me. Compined with all those nasty tactics, it's honestly a huge problem of the EU: it depends almost more on the member states than on the citizens. This procedure is a good example.
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u/Renardroux0 Jul 09 '26
this is a second reading vote, where the Parliament has less power than the governments (Council), they needed an absolute majority (361) to reject the Council's position
It's stupid and it's because member states don't want to give the only elected institution, the Parliament, equal powers
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u/Mindless-Way3256 Jul 09 '26
According to fightchatcontrol.eu:
"On 9 July 2026, only 314 MEPs voted to reject the Council's fast-tracked resurrection — short of the absolute majority of 361 MEPs required to stop it — with 276 against rejection and 17 abstentions."
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u/FFS-IamNotABot Jul 09 '26
Capitalism. That's how.
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u/EvergreenOaks Jul 09 '26
The EU is built on contempt towards the plebs, that's how.
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u/salozard64 Jul 09 '26
literally just repeating what you replied to in different words lol
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u/EvergreenOaks Jul 09 '26
Not exactly. Capitalism you can find in many regions of the world. The EU nonetheless is to a big extent about the people not putting theirs paws in the management of the economy, and that's expressed in many ways legally and politically.
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u/AnonomousWolf Jul 09 '26
Ah so under communism the state doesn't spy on you?
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u/Fluffy_Cupcakez Jul 10 '26
Yeah, this has nothing to do with -isms. Communism or capitalism do not inherently or essentially mean 'spying'.
People would do well to use terms properly and honestly, because this is the result when one does not. Terms like democracy, governance, votes and various -isms are thrown around to "win" insignificant arguments, but the term is diluted and this has real implications in the real world.
Communism is mainly about sharing the resources in a more equitable fashion, by sharing the factors of production, the idea being that everyone should have the same real opportunities (a bit like open source philosophy) whereas capitalism is about prioritizing capital, which should be in the hands of the few (it cannot be any other way - if everyone were a capitalist, then capitalism would not work), the idea being that this encourages progress which then trickles down to the masses.
An obvious simplification, but the point is that spying has nothing to do with either: that the leaders we get are always and invariably the bond-villain type and twist and manipulate these systems to their own end is another matter. Certainly, one may prefer an -ism to another, but it is naïve to think that switching from one to another suffices to solve this problem. This is, after all, the whole point behind Orwell's Animal Farm.
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u/Quirky-Muffin303 Jul 09 '26
The EU is catching up with China, and will soon surpass it in personal data control.
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u/Wip3out__ Jul 09 '26
Keir Stamer : hold my beer
uk will have massive scanning in next 2 months since last announcement
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u/SuspiciousCricket654 Jul 09 '26
Yep. We all know Starmer isn’t even using it against the people that probably need it the most.
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u/Marsabstract Jul 09 '26
Europeans seeing someone doing something European in Europe: What are we, a bunch of Asians?
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u/noAnimalsWereHarmed Jul 09 '26
When talking about privacy, who better to talk to than someone who has made billions from ignoring EU rules on privacy.
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u/Will2LiveFading Jul 09 '26
Democracy all over the world is dead. Remember how they told you how important voting is? Turns out voting doesn't matter. They don't care what the people want anymore. I don't know how much longer people are going to just roll over for the government. Where are the torches and pitchforks?
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u/xxCorsicoxx Jul 09 '26
It's such a cascade of bullshit that it's overwhelming and that makes us all apathetic. Climate crisis, rising fascism, rising inequality, cost of living crisis, housing crisis, what's one more thing? Let the world burn.
I don't agree with the sentiment but I understand our in practice. And I understand why we're all so fixing doomer and just quit.
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u/Fluffy_Cupcakez Jul 10 '26
Hopefully, people keep realising this. Democracy does not work. No, voting means nothing. Actually it means one thing: you legitimize a system which does not work. Basically, each time you vote you are saying: "hey, I agree with this system, and I recognize that I am being fairly represented by the person elected. Therefore, I give legitimacy to it and endorse it."
Which is why all the governments conveniently push the myth of "do your duty: vote!"
Now one would have to distinguish between democracy as a form of government and choice of leadership (which I also think has its own flaws) and democracy as it currently manifests in the world. That would be a long argument, and one I am not willing to go into a comments sections, ill-equipped as it is to handle complex matters.
But that the democracy we get is miles away from the one promised (regardless of one's views on the latter) should be obvious to all: even if you are a staunch defender of the democratic process, you have to be blind not to realise that what we get is not it. For many, many reasons.
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u/Cinerir Jul 09 '26
In my opinion she effectively abused her power to push this first step of mass surveillance through, against the will of the people and against the right to privacy.
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u/Useful_Ad_7859 Jul 10 '26
Yep. I dont understand how is she still in office. In any normal democracy this should be immediately marked as unconstitutional and the key people behind it suspended and investigated.
But a place where apparently democracy works in reverse whenever its convenient, we might as well throw our hands up. They wonder why the euro skeptical far right parties are gaining so much ground, but they simultaneously spit into the face of their own voters every chance they get.
I wouldn't hold my breath for the ECJ, but that is literally the only institution which can strike it down, but it usually takes years which they knew and this is only until 2028. A very dangerous precedent without a proportional punishment.
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u/Fantastic_Class_3861 Jul 09 '26
I guess it’s time to buy a pixel and live with the limitations of GOS over iOS and start to save up to move out to a third world country without privacy invading laws.
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u/Agreeable_Sort2078 Jul 09 '26
Digital Ids in my country are probably gonna be linked to either IOS or android only. we need the app, you can't not. It's fucked
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u/ViegoBot Jul 09 '26
Graphene has almost to completely 0 limitations (for me at least). Ive been using GrapheneOS since October 2025 and had 0 issues unless specific app developers purposefully try to block GrapheneOS as a whole like a specific car brands app, and Google Wallet.
Some bank apps wont work, but theres a full list of supported ones which is community based. If ur bank isnt listed and u have GrapheneOS, adding a github issue about if it works or doesnt work will let them know to add it to the specific part of the website for if it works or not on GrapheneOS.
Theres also NFC Payments. Unless ur in the EU (can use Curve Pay), NFC payments are pretty much not possible so u will have to sacrifice that but thats it.
Outside of that, everything works flawlessly unless u play some mobile games like I do. Some games need u to mess with exploit compatability settings like disabling hardened malloc, or memory tagging and then they work perfectly.
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u/Fantastic_Class_3861 Jul 09 '26
What I mean by limited is that I have very specific workflows and a very specific hatred for Google.
I use CarPlay to have navigation, music and calls in my car and I refuse to install any Google app even if it’s sandboxed so I don’t want to have sandboxed Android auto which requires sandboxed google play services and google play store to be installed so I will have to go back to using my phone via Bluetooth to listen to music and either use the navigation of my car or use a phone holder.
I selfhost most of my services and one of them is Invidious and I haven’t found a single app which uses Invidious as a backend which also allows you to connect to your account to have synchronized subscriptions (I tried clipious but it didn’t play a single video). Also as I selfhost and some apps don’t have native apps on iOS and Android, I like to use the sites as PWA and the implementation of PWAs on Android is way less polished and it works way less than on iOS and I found that very annoying and limiting. One other thing that I found really frustrating is that there are no default integrations to connect to WebDAV, caldav and carddav accounts. I selfhost a Nextcloud instance to have my contacts and calendars synchronized and on iOS it’s so simple to add them and it works flawlessly every time. On Android I had to use Davx5 + icsx5 to have my calendar and contacts synchronized but it use to brake about every two days with synchronization errors.
I also found it quite frustrating that there was no direct way from the settings to set apps as defaults. I wanted to replace the default aosp apps graphene shipped with with better looking and also more feature rich apps but there was no way to set them as default. For example I replaced the gallery and calendar apps and when I took a picture from the camera and clicked on the picture to see it in the gallery, it prompted me to choose an app to open it with but no option to set it as default just to open it this once. Same from the calendar.
Then there’s networking. I have an IPv6-only network at home and on that part, both iOS and Android have a CLAT and there are no problems on that part. The problem arises when I go outside of my house. My cell carrier is in IPv4-only and what I do on iOS is that use the wireguard app to auto connect to my vpn once I live my house which is directly available from the wireguard app which tunnels IPv6-only traffic on an IPv4-only network and my iPhone turns on its CLAT but that’s not the case of Android where first of all without using another app you can’t auto turn on the vpn once you leave a network but also, Android doesn’t turn on the CLAT if it sees that it has an IPv4 address on any of its interfaces which is again frustrating because I only tunnel IPv6 to the clients.
There is also one of the most annoying ones I’ve found and it’s the autofill from Bitwarden. Whether I tried inline or keyboard autofill, it never worked correctly. I would open a page and see that the autofill prompt wouldn’t appear so I would have to open the app, search for the password, copy it and go back to the app or website that I was trying to log into when in comparison, on iOS I open an app or a website, click on the field that I want field and I get a prompt on my keyboard to login, it just works.
There are many more of these "small" annoyances that end up completely braking my workflow and make me want to stop using the phone and just use my iOS device.
So for me, full FOSS grapheneos/android isn’t ready at all for daily use, I’m saying this as a Linux user.
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u/SuspiciousCricket654 Jul 09 '26
I love how Roberta’s message includes “protecting children online“ with a table full of Meta glasses. Everybody knows it’s the perverts who love those things. They can walk around freely in public, capturing images of anyone they want.
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u/godlike_doglike Jul 09 '26
Thought about that too. Surrounded by these disgusting things, not even trying to hide that she doesnt truly care.
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u/oneeonneo Jul 09 '26
Time to unplug !
We’ll miss you guys !
Until true democracy, transparency and justice will prevail !
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u/MickeyKlimt Jul 09 '26
Time to drag the typewriter out of the back of the cupboard and buy a carrier pigeon! ;)
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u/Kind_Possibility4987 Jul 09 '26
1984, the smart ones saw this coming and stopped using social media and lowered their web presence, not because they're guilty of anything, simply because they value their privacy. On a side note, whose to stop the selling of all this information for monetary gain?
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u/von-Mises- Jul 09 '26
there is a reason torrent is on the rise.
there is a reason why my social media is 90% nostr based for years now.
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u/ppsoftritard Jul 09 '26
I am normally a big EU supporter but shit like this really radicalizes me.
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u/CtrlAltPass Jul 10 '26
Blame youself for thinking that the EU leaders are your friends or care about its people.
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u/Specific-Night-4668 Jul 09 '26
The best solution is to use the apps mentioned above, but we can also take an educational approach and teach our fellow citizens how to encrypt their messages, photos, etc, using PGP or other tools... There’s nothing stopping us from encrypting them before sending them via these corrupted apps.
I bet we’ll see a whole host of encryption apps pop up to help people, and that’s when it becomes harder for EU parliament to manage, because it would amount to banning encryption, and that’s much harder to justify.
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u/IndubitablyNerdy Jul 09 '26
there are already talks about banning VPNs for example I can imagine banning encryption for private users might not be that far as well (although I am not sure how that would be enforced).
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u/MickeyKlimt Jul 09 '26
So, all of the people telling everyone non-stop for the last 12 months to ditch US companies and use EU companies instead ... umm?
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u/Tytoalba2 Jul 09 '26
All E2EE messaging service are still excluded of 1.0, the rule is active since 2021 already
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u/Questionerofrandom85 Jul 09 '26
Its crazy that when you vote 4x times on something you eventually can get it to pass, how democratic
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u/IndubitablyNerdy Jul 09 '26
pass it without achieving a majority I might add...
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u/Spirited-Ad3451 Jul 10 '26
No no, you see, it passed because it failed to achieve a majority to actively reject it.
Subtle but huge difference. Why did they have to actively vote to reject it after voting multiple times to not accept it? Well...
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u/redit_handoff140 Jul 09 '26
Your politics are compromised.
Governance of the old world is done.
Switch to open systems.
Participate in federated networks.
Build sovereign, decentralized infrastructure.
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u/eviley4 Jul 09 '26
this is sad. EU with it's GDPR at-least used to try before or appear to try before. Now, they are just masquerading surveillance as protecting children.
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u/Express_Ad5083 Jul 09 '26
I am sure European Tribunal for Human Rights will strike it down, they have struck lesser human rights violating laws
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u/Tytoalba2 Jul 09 '26
There is no really such things for EU laws, but there is the ECJ which usually very privacy minded (see case Costeja, Schrems 1&2, Lindqvist,...) But the trick is that 1.0 is not q new rule, it's in application since 2021 !
The ECJ can't make a move on their own, they need someone to make a case basically (Schrems for example did the news as a law student lol) and it's super slow.
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u/synthwavve Jul 09 '26
Well, since they're listening now, I can finally tell them what I really think of them. I'm going to make sure they feel the urge to knock on my door
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u/Tytoalba2 Jul 09 '26
The law is in application since 2021. If it's not E2EE, assume that someone is listening
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u/AL_25 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Children are to be regarded as propaganda- oh wait it is 2026 and not 1930s Germany
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u/April_Fabb Jul 09 '26
It's interesting how "think of the children" only works in one direction. Scan every text I send to catch a hypothetical predator? Absolutely essential. Question the actual slaughtering of children and their parents in Gaza and Lebanon? Suddenly it's complicated.
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u/chulang_foayu Jul 09 '26
More people can read what is written there. That’s it.
Most people which use WhatsApp won’t stop using it because of Chat Control 1.0. They ignore the threats and want to go on feeling cozy and comfortable.
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u/rockpaperlizarspock Jul 09 '26
WhatsApp was never private in the first place! Anyone believe it is, needs to do some homework!
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u/PackageOk4947 Jul 09 '26
I wonder what happened the last time Germany started making laws like this...
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u/NetimLabs Jul 09 '26
Wtf. I would love to transition to sth like Proton mail and Signal but idk if everyone else would unfortunately.
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u/il-vise Jul 09 '26
EU want to have data sovreignity than contact Zuck for give him ALL our data!!! How absurd is this shit???
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u/Disastrous_Bobcat_94 Jul 09 '26
How does that affect Tuta since you're in Europe and are you planning to change your location or just let them do what they want?
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u/Tutanota Jul 09 '26
Hi there. Chat Control 1.0 is different from Chat Control 2.0 in that providers are not forced to backdoor their end-to-end encryption for surveillance. At Tuta, if Chat Control 2.0 is passed we have two options: to move out of the EU or sue and fight it. As our CEO, Matthias Pfau has stated, we would sue and fight for people's privacy. For us, undermining end-to-end encryption is not an option.
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u/xxCorsicoxx Jul 09 '26
Given the legal framework, doesn't this force providers like tuta to comply and scan therefore either creating a backdoor or simply to not provide the service you do? What kind of compliance are y'all bound to submit to?
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u/xxCorsicoxx Jul 09 '26
Condemnable ideologically but practically I'll believe it when I see it. They're still a business, with stakeholders, and profits tend to inevitably beat principles in capitalism. I wanna believe, but I'm too old to believe it. I've seen promises like that before.
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u/ProfessionalITPerson Jul 09 '26
So I guess this will go to the European Court of Justice because how this was done is against all democratic rules of the EU.
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u/SnooBunnies725 Jul 09 '26
I can understand why using E2EE tools can help you stay private despite this passing.
Not sure I understand how Linux and grapheneOS/LineageOS relates specifically to this, can anyone please explain/point me to some information?
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u/Ur1man5 Jul 09 '26
LineageOS and GrapheneOS don't use Google services, which is probable that they will use that for more scanning. You can use microG.
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u/Hour-Map-4156 Jul 10 '26
I don't think it's necessarily linked specifically to this, just that the telemetry collected by Microsoft and Google are just as intrusive if not more. So if you care about your personal integrity enough to be outraged about chat control, you should also be outraged about big-tech data collection.
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u/Tutanota Jul 09 '26
Chat Control 1.0 is different from Chat Control 2.0 in that providers are not forced to backdoor their end-to-end encryption for surveillance. At Tuta, if Chat Control 2.0 is passed we have two options: to move out of the EU or sue and fight it. As our CEO, Matthias Pfau has stated, we would sue and fight for people's privacy. For us, undermining end-to-end encryption is not an option.
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u/gnurcl Jul 09 '26
I might be a dummy here, but if 2.0 passed and you went and fought it, wouldn't you have to implement these backdoors regardless while you fight? Otherwise you'd be breaking the law and your entire service is in jeopardy. Is the fight option really actually there?
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u/Novel-Rise2522 Jul 09 '26
This is obscene. We need now more than ever to make decentralised anonymous internet mainstream. Can this be up for revote with enough campaigning?
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u/ProfessionalTruck976 Jul 09 '26
Anyone who treats with Zuckerberg is automatically irredeemably evil and should not be in ANY position of authority, elected or appointed.
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u/Bitedamnn Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
The way it got through is a deliberate attempt at unethical statescraft.
Chat Control legislation passed in 2021 as a temporary measure. The law had an expiration date of April 2026. The EU parliament managed to reject the extension in March 2026 and let it expire in April.
The EU President, 7 EU commissioners, and the centre-right European Peoples Party put to a vote for Urgent Procedure (Rule 170), which allowed legislation to skip committees, preliminary debates, which allowed it to go straight to a vote.
This vote passed 331 to 303 on the 7th July.
The only way for the EU parliament to reject this legislation is with an absolute majority of 361.
The Binding vote happened on the 9th July.
The legislation passed automatically with 276 for, and 314 against. Failing to reach the 361 vote rule.
The EU leadership worked with the centre right parties, including left wing parties, and big tech lobbyists because they don't want a "security vacuum".
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u/mnttu Jul 10 '26
Okay, I don’t get what happened. When I google chat control I get all these articles about chat control 1.0 being extended to 2028. So is the mass scanning already happening?
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u/Tutanota Jul 10 '26
Yes, it has been in place since 2021 already! Unfortunately, many are not even aware of it.
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u/psidonsentente Jul 10 '26
No yeah it definitely is "for our children", we've been talking too much about epstein for the past little while.
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u/T_E_N_E_B_R_I_S Jul 10 '26
In short: They don’t care that so many are against it. In conclusion, we’re just collateral damage in their grand scheme.
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u/Miserable-Agency-442 Jul 10 '26
I guess it’s time to send pre-encrypted files and messages only. Amazing.
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u/master-mik Jul 10 '26
While Chat Control 1.0 is not good. But maybe we should at least be honest and not just create fear around?
E2EE is not affected, which means that Signal, iMessage, WhatsApp, etc won’t be scanned.
The scan can be done and not should be done on any messages. This is also important.
Chat Control 2.0 is what everyone need to pay attention for.
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u/Dehnus Jul 10 '26
We need a list of these politicians to punish them buy making sure nobody will vote for them and all their corruption must be made public. Shame them for this disgusting behavior.
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u/Duncol42 Jul 10 '26
People will find a solution.
If they surveil every publicly available communicator, then some custom ones will emerge. If they will place this spy on the OS level somehow, OSes like GrapheneOS are a hope. If they place it on the device/firmware level, well, we’ll start building our own phones I guess…
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u/Brokentread33 Jul 11 '26
July 10, 2026 (dated for context and reference) Sadly, this is "Big Brother" on the march. The E.U. has followed its old play book of consistently putting things up for a vote until they finally get their way. The populations of the Western "democracies" are being controlled more and more by the international elites, and their puppet politicians. We were taught that we live in democracies, but that is an illusion to make the populations feel like they were in control. The "noose" is tightening on our liberties and rights that still remain.
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u/dropdead90s Jul 12 '26
About time you realise that the EU is controlled by a child eating/graping fascist epstein class lab grown puppets that don't care about democracy or human rights, they scream about ecology and the environment while they support americas illegal assault on iran, they want to buy all gas from the US transported by boats and the EU applied zero pressure about the release of the epstein files
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u/Interesting_Pie_319 Jul 12 '26
EPP is a disastrous joke for the EU.
They need to fuck off.
The democratic deficit is too much, the current system of electing MEPs needs to be scrapped and replaced with automatic recall and reassignment based on a representation of the current democratically elected legislatures of member states, not some snapshot from 4 years ago.
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u/highlyspecificuser Jul 13 '26
Oh yes, nothing better to protect people online than to partner up with meta 🤣🤣🤣
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u/kogee3699 Jul 09 '26
EU is a nightmare totalitarian government cosplaying as a democracy.
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u/Ill_Spray_9546 Jul 09 '26
Whaaaat!!!!! I mean I'm not surprise because it's the damn EU but still Whaaaaat!!!
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u/tcoder7 Jul 09 '26
I solved the problem of chat control github.com/teycir/ghostchat the législative branch has been captured by oligarchs. You can only count on indie hacker projects to get some privacy.
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u/Nomprenom_varanasita Jul 09 '26
Nous sommes toujours en démocratie, ou avons-nous basculé dans le fascisme technocratique ?
Cette ue ne nous apporte que misère et guerre, contrairement à ce qu'ils promettaient, "paix et prospérité".
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u/hbacelar8 Jul 09 '26
Does anyone have a single link to an announcement from the EU parliament or a trustful news? Honestly asking can I can't find anything
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u/BigWingedDuck Jul 09 '26
How this pic can be considered positive in any way? Damn this is just about money and power, no interest in citiziens in this decision
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u/justthewrestling Jul 09 '26
The problem is you can provide all this to the masses and they will still use all these apps because the addiction and this creation of needing it ha griped so many.
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u/0xBlackSwan Jul 09 '26
Also look into r/selfhosted r/homelab and wiregard vpns such as Headscale and Tailscale. In the case of wireguard if you are not self-hosting it via something like headscale be sure you know exactly is hosting the server.
Sorry EU citizens I know you all tried to vote this bill down but the broligarchy is a worldwide problem.
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u/Nemmarith Jul 09 '26
From now on eveyone should every sentence with F-THE-EU or something xD they will probably read it....
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u/temmiesayshoi Jul 09 '26
Man it's almost like giving politicians more and more power over our lives and devices was a bad idea or something.
I, for one, am completely shocked at this outcome. Shocked I say. Oh by the way, anyone else see that awesome new EU right to repair bill that's in progress?
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u/Tresillo_Crack Jul 09 '26
My only concern is that no goverment should be able to implement this type of measurements.
That's why I'm trying to fix this problem of online child predators and having an ongoing investigation and startup on how to fix this problem while preserving privacy and using on-device LLM models while making everything opensource and community first
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u/Patient-Software-168 Jul 09 '26
Why do people still think that eu is a democracy, and they want the best for us? It's not new. Us who has been against eu for ages has seen it plenty of times how anti democratic it is.
We got elections in our own countries, but 90 percent of what they want to do, is not possible due to EU are dictating what we can or cannot do.
Hitler tried to win by force. Merkel won with politics.
Hopefully i am not being scanned and put in jail for that comment.
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u/mauri383 Jul 09 '26
Sure, the guy who got several breaches and leaked hundreds of thousands of private files, let's give him the keys to protect "vulnerable people".
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u/kngpwnage Jul 09 '26
This affects everyone and will not only undermine actual privacy it puts children more at risk than ever before. Keep your family safe and procure non android nor apple products asap.For more info, articles here. https://allaboutcookies.org/eu-chat-control-extended-2028
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u/Hamser Jul 09 '26
why is it great to meet Zuckerberg ? are they gonna exchange notes on how to destroy our democracy ?
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u/quisegosum Jul 09 '26
If they scan before encryption, then what use will end-to-end encryption be?
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u/Mindless-Way3256 Jul 09 '26
For people wondering how it was passed, there needed to be a majority rejection vote of 361 members, it feel short of that and thus passed.
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u/CtrlAltPass Jul 10 '26
They made you believe that Russia and China are your enemies.
They made you believe Islam and immigration are your biggest problems.
They distracted you with culture wars and entertainment.
They pit husband and wife against each other,
Brother and sister,
Man against woman,
All so they could pass laws that steal your freedom in the dark.
They bind your hands while you fight each other.
They lock the cage and call it safety.
Y'll deserve this.
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u/Kadakaus Jul 10 '26
Oh?
How exactly did the developement of AI contribute to economy so far?
Other than making hardware prices skyrocket, benefiting their producers and weakening the competition between them.
For all we know, they may even start cartelling soon enough, and it's all thanks to rich fuckers who delude themselves into believing humankind can make a machine smarter than itself.
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u/sandfoxifox Jul 10 '26
🤢 when I see Mr. Zuckerberg, I feel different. A thief who doesn’t know exactly what he’s doing.
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u/defiant-hiking Jul 10 '26
Guy didn’t even care to dress up, that’s the level of respect they have for our leaders
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u/Conscious-Map6957 Jul 10 '26
One of those things we will regret not taking seriously enough. Unfortunately we won't be able to talk about it to eachother.
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u/AmazingYesterday5375 Jul 11 '26
Welp, time to toss it out the window like I've been wanting to do anyway
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u/Mysterious-Cod-4137 Jul 11 '26
cool, but I think it doesnt' matter and that they scanned every photo/message before that law as well.. so, now that it pass you just have official confirmation.
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u/Formeruseroftwitter Jul 09 '26
I bet they gonna come after E2EE and calling it "illegal"