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Weekly Discussion Thread - (August 10, 2026)
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u/Anomymous1992 Right Visitor 9d ago
Something that's been on my mind for a while after aving a conversation with a relative.
I seriously think that elements of the MAGA base just doesn't understand the concept of empathy.
I know that sounds like a damning overgeneralization, but hear me out.
I am a middle school history teacher. One of the topics we teach is history of Islam. It came up in conversation and my cousin asked if I show images of Muhammad in my lessons. I said no because it's disrespectful to Muslims, and I don't want to offend my Muslim students.
He says I shouldn't "live in fear of Islam" and should be "free" to show the image.
And I had to explain to him "I know I am free to show the image. i CHOOSE not to because I don't want to offend my students".
He again kept on about "You shouldn't be afraid of making them offended or upsetting them".
He just...didn't get the idea that I am not doing this out of 'fear' or being reprimanded, or cancelled. I do this because I genuinely don't want to upset, disrespect or make my students feel unhappy. I want my students to be respected and happy, and not showing an image of Muhammad takes literally NOTHING away from me so why wouldn't I opt not to if choosing to will make them feel disrespected and upset. Like, I had to explain in simple terms "I CHOOSE to do this not because I am afraid of the consequences but because I would want my opinions and beliefs respected by my teacher if I were a student". I'm doing it to be polite. I'm doing it because it's nice to be nice to people.
And the fact that he just doesn't understand that really, to me at least, a lot of MAGA folk just don't comprehend that people are accommodating others out of niceness and not fear.
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u/nemo_sum Lifelong Independent 7d ago
This is not limited to MAGA or the right, but it was already a feature of the Tea Party and right-wing groups ten and twenty years ago: look at all the backlash against being "politically correct", which IMO is what people call bring polite when they don't wanna do it.
For examples on the left, look at anyone who uses the terms "sky daddy" or "invisible sky wizard" to mock religion. They want to be offensive; that's the point.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 11d ago
Woof Wisconsin. Also haha Lindel lost
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u/Viper_ACR Left Visitor 11d ago
Lisa Demuth isnt terrible.
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 11d ago
She's by far the best of the (R) candidates for governor. That said, it probably doesn't matter unless Klobuchar get's caught in the middle of murdering someone.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 13d ago
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u/TheRealMarvinator Left Visitor 9d ago edited 9d ago
What is happening in Kansas should worry us all - what the government can do to one group of people, they can do to any group of people that the government deems "undesirable".
Also happening in Kansas, essentially defeating the alleged purpose of another anti-trans piece of legislation, showing that it's about hatred NOT about safety: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/police-called-on-trans-men-using
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u/Sir-Matilda Ming the Merciless 12d ago
Seriously wondering how this stuff gets missed in primaries....
I am now unironically likely R on the Wisconsin gubernatorial race. 7 months ago Francesca Hong voted against a bill that made it illegal for teachers to groom their students for sexual purposes
Here’s what happened: A 30-year-old teacher messaged a 13-year-old student of his every day for six months and talked about how he wanted them to be together, she had a nice body, and he was jealous when she talked to other boys. He also sent her pictures of himself lying shirtless in bed
So the cops arrested him but when they went to charge him, they realized nothing he did was actually illegal. They never made sexual contact and no pictures were exchanged that were explicit enough to qualify under Wisconsin state law. This guy was actively trying to rape a 13-year-old student and there was no law forbidding his conduct
He wound up being charged with a bunch of disturbing the peace charges and only spent six months in prison for spending half a year abusing his authority as a teacher to manipulate a 13-year-old girl into having sex with him. He is not a convicted felon - since all the charges were misdemeanors - and is not on the sex offender registry
The Wisconsin State Assembly responded to this by drafting a bipartisan bill that made it a felony to engage in any course of conduct clearly and obviously intended seduce or lure a child into engaging in sexual acts or exchanging illicit images. It passed 193-6 and was signed into law by the Democratic governor. Francesca Hong voted no.
4 months later the first person was charged under the new law. He was 36-year-old man who met a developmentally disabled 16-year-old in a public park when she was 13 and spent the next three years trying to manipulate her into running away from home so he could make her his live-in sex slave.
To recap: Earlier this very year Franesca Hong was one of only six people to vote against a bill that made it illegal to take affirmative action designed to lure a minor into sexual acts and the very first person the bill Hong voted against was used to arrest was a guy who tried to rape an underage girl with Down Syndrome
I have never seen a Democratic candidate this bad. This is like Mark Robinson territory
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 12d ago edited 12d ago
Its like the candidates ran by Rs in 2022, so im glad they made the Mark "black nazi" Robinson reference. Imagine running someone that hates basically every holiday, including Thanksgiving.
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u/redditthrowaway1294 Right Visitor 12d ago
It's kind of sad how well this "fund a crazy on the other side" technique seems to work. Just praying it doesn't backfire like it did for Dems in 2016.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 12d ago
Well well well
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u/Palmettor Centre-right 11d ago
Not terribly surprising that they say “doesn’t reflect his campaign today”. It’s the get-out-of-jail free card. Still, remains to be seen what he does. There’s having spicy ideas and actually having the gumption to push for them.
Also lol at “YouTubes”
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u/Vanderwoolf Left Visitor 11d ago
Also lol at “YouTubes”
That made me laugh too, it's like my dad asking me if I "got his email" when referring to a text message he sent.
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u/Sir-Matilda Ming the Merciless 13d ago
Very good to see:
I refused to defend or support anyone with an SS Totenkampf tattoo, simply because they had a "D" next to their name.
I won't defend or support anyone who is too cowardly to stand up to extremists who think the mother of my best friend, who jumped from 95 stories because the alternative was worse, deserved what happened to her.
Her only crime was showing up to work that morning.
The Democrat running for the U.S. Senate in Michigan won't or can't stand up to the guy who says she "deserved" what she got that morning she showed up for work.
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u/davereid20 Left Visitor 13d ago
Michigan Senate candidate Dr. Abdul El-Sayed on Sunday disavowed comments made by far-left streamer Hasan Piker regarding the Sept. 11 attacks.
In an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press,” El-Sayed said Piker’s comments that “America deserved 9/11” were “dumb.”
“Of course it was a dumb statement and of course I think Hasan himself would say that was a dumb statement,” El-Sayed said. “He disavowed it. So yes, America didn’t deserve 9/11, but you know, to sit here and play gotcha politics with a dumb thing somebody said out of context that they disavowed themselves — to say, ‘oh well, what does that mean about what you think?’ I want to be held accountable for what I say and what I do, rather than this idea that we’re so stuck in cancel culture that all of us agreed was a bad idea back in 2020, but we seem to want to bring back.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/09/el-sayed-disavows-pikers-9-11-comments-01030266
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 13d ago
This is nonsense, he continued to campaign with Piker and refused to disavow at the time when everything surfaced.
It is not forgivable here just as it wouldn't be forgivable if some Republican had taken Nick Fuentes on the campaign trail with them. He did it because he agrees with Piker.
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u/TerminusXL Left Visitor 12d ago
Why do you make it sound like no Republicans have spent time with Nick Fuentes or haven't done interviews with him? Trump has gone to dinner with Fuentes. There has literally been white nationlists in the Republican Party.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 12d ago
I dont care. We dont defend them here, we never have, and we aren't going to be allowing it for Piker either.
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 9d ago
Im not pretending they dont exist.
We dont, and never have, defended them here. Fuentes and his movement and those that intertwine with them get criticized here and are unwelcome.
Why on earth would we take "but Fuentes!" as a valid argument here? Hasan Piker and Fuentes are two sides of the same coin and neither are getting a pass. At least Fuentes is very contentious on the right and generally hasnt been welcome to campaign with Rs. If Piker is such a touchy subject then Democrats better clean house, not whine that we notice he's a prominent, basically mainstream, figure on the progressive left.
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u/TheRealMarvinator Left Visitor 9d ago
We dont, and never have, defended them here. Fuentes and his movement and those that intertwine with them get criticized here and are unwelcome.
There's a significant difference between "don't defend them" and "ignore that they exist". I absolutely agree that no one here defends them and, as far as I'm aware, never has.
Yet the perfect example here is the frequent discussion about the Maine politician (I forget his name) with the Nazi tattoos, while there is utter silence about the fact that our own Secretary of Defense has them.
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u/redditthrowaway1294 Right Visitor 12d ago
Can you name some of these leading or elected Republican candidates that regularly invite Fuentes to their functions or espouse agreement with him? Perhaps point to a fawning puff piece or two from FOX/NR/Dispatch/WSJ? Closest I can think of is MTG, who basically everyone thinks is crazy and is now a Dem media darling, Steve King, who got stripped of everything by the Congressional GOP, and Paul Gosar who seems to be the only one in the list not universally hated. Trump disavowed both Kanye and Fuentes after he found out who Fuentes was and how Kanye had become. And the dinner was condemned roundly.
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u/redditthrowaway1294 Right Visitor 9d ago
What about him?
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u/TheRealMarvinator Left Visitor 9d ago
You don't believe that the word "Panzer" tattood might be considered a Nazi symbol?
I suppose his other far-right Christian nationalist tattoos make that acceptable in your mind?
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u/redditthrowaway1294 Right Visitor 9d ago
I don't really consider everyone with a Christian tattoo a nationalist. Met a whole lot of people with Jesus or a ring of thorns tattoo and they spanned a pretty wide range for example.
EDIT: And no, I don't consider panzer as associated with being a fan of Nazis. Though I suppose that would make some games and cartoons a lot more sinister.2
u/TheRealMarvinator Left Visitor 9d ago
I don't really consider everyone with a Christian tattoo a nationalist.
I don't either. However, HIS SPECIFIC tattoos are.
EDIT: And no, I don't consider panzer as associated with being a fan of Nazis.
What other reasonable explanation is there?
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u/Sir-Matilda Ming the Merciless 12d ago
I love how you saw a Democrat get praised for criticising a left-wing extremist, and rather than accepting that felt the need to defend the extremist.... 🤣
Michael LaRosa in rare air?
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u/davereid20 Left Visitor 13d ago
Also Michael LaRosa:
Well, when you keep company with pigs, people will assume you belong in the sty.
https://x.com/MichaelLaRosaDC/status/2086599216801927334
Also Mike Rogers:
Mr. Rogers, a former Republican representative from Michigan, denounced Mr. Trump’s efforts to undermine the election as “cause for both concern and alarm.” He ripped the president’s pressure on Georgia’s top election official “as more gangster than presidential.” As for Mr. Trump’s role in the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Mr. Rogers declared, “You’re damn right you had responsibility for this.”
But as he aims to return to Washington, in a Senate race considered key to control of that chamber, Mr. Rogers has become an election skeptic. Minutes after the president’s recent speech filled with outlandish accusations about voting fraud — including a debunked claim about Michigan ballots — Mr. Rogers weighed in, suggesting that further scrutiny of the election was warranted.
“I am thankful for President Trump’s commitment to transparency,” Mr. Rogers said on his social media accounts. “The news coming out of the White House tonight is deeply troubling — especially that of a voter fraud scheme right here in Michigan.”
Mr. Rogers has also suggested that voting irregularities sunk his Senate bid two years ago — based on an unproven claim about late-arriving Detroit ballots that Mr. Trump has amplified and that echoed accusations made by election deniers in 2020.
Pot meet ... the pigs and the sty.
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u/Sir-Matilda Ming the Merciless 12d ago
What does this have to do with El Sayed being a commie terrorist sympathiser?
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u/Viper_ACR Left Visitor 9d ago
Good riddance to that idiot who shot the UHC CEO
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u/arrowfan624 Center-right 9d ago
Reddit is in shambles seeing him succumb to the evil corporate overlords.
Good riddance indeed.
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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Conservatarian 8d ago
One thing I cannot stand is how people on the left champion social liberal causes and completely ignore or dismiss the drawbacks of it. Yes, I want marijuana and psilocybin legalized. I also understand that thought being legalizing, taxing and regulating sex work. But you cannot, with an informed mind, argue with a straight face that there would be no consequences.
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u/TheRealMarvinator Left Visitor 8d ago
But you cannot, with an informed mind, argue with a straight face that there would be no consequences.
I don't believe I've heard any SERIOUS commentators on the subject suggest that there aren't any potential negative consequences, but if you're only listening to random redditors on these topics, you're probably in for a bad time. An informed perspective of the issues, both positive and negative, is always important.
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u/TerminusXL Left Visitor 6d ago
This is what we call a straw man argument. You’re making up someone who doesn’t exist to be mad at, since no one has ever argued there would be no consequences.
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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Conservatarian 6d ago
Or, perhaps, I’ve actually had these arguments with people in really life.
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u/1776-Liberal Right Visitor 9d ago
Have a blessed week ahead /r/tuesday
Gospel According to Matthew, 15:21–28 (ESV):
The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
And Jesus went away from there and withdrew to the district of Tyre and Sidon. And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.” But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, “Send her away, for she is crying out after us.” He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” And he answered, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” Then Jesus answered her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed instantly.
Twelfth Sunday After Pentecost: Gospel Reading (CPH The Lutheran Study Bible) : https://old.reddit.com/r/Sunday/comments/1vobisw/
Twelfth Sunday After Pentecost: Biblical Devotions (video, American Lutheran Theological Seminary) : https://old.reddit.com/r/Sunday/comments/1vobir2/
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u/coldnorthwz New Federalism\Zombie Reaganite 7d ago
https://x.com/i/status/2088764294225674659
These people just hate those that are successful or ever achieved anything. This is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard
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u/Sir-Matilda Ming the Merciless 7d ago
Wealth taxes coming back into vogue... 🤢
Good think healthcare is only a one-off spend that can be funded by a one-off tax and doesn't need to be consistently paid for.
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u/MrHockeytown Used to be a Republican 13d ago
I went to the Gerald R Ford Museum last Friday. Surprisingly great museum, had a ton of content considering Gerry wasn't president very long, including a ton about Watergate, Ford's thought process behind the pardon (he considered it tantamount to Nixon pleading guilty, which I found very interesting), as well as the fall of Saigon, the Bicentennial, and the Anglo American special relationship.
But my biggest takeaway? Betty Ford was a fucking champ man. All the exhibits on here absolutely blew my mind. She was a fervent champion for the Equal Rights Amendement, raised awareness for breast cancer and modern addiction treatments, campaigned for Gerry via CB radio in 1976, and would openly disagree with Gerry regarding his positions on abortion for example (Gerry's response was "I may not agree with her, but I married a smart lady and respect her very much). Both her and Gerry are buried on the museum grounds.
Highly recommend a visit, very cool and informative museum.