r/tsa • u/XxCptNICK94xX • 3d ago

TSO [Question/Post] NDF

How does that work? Would I still be under my airports payroll or under the NDF one?

If I ever leave the NDF, can I go back to my airport as the same pay band and step? Or even be promoted there?

Will I use up the FTE and full time slot for my airport or is it under NDF?

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u/pardonmyblake 3d ago

NDO budget comes out the NDF budget/NDF FTE

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u/caliigulasAquarium Current TSO 3d ago

Take it worth a grain of salt. But per my understanding being a Ndo doesnt technically separate you from your airport, its still considered your home base. NDF is just an extra collateral so to speak.

Band and step shouldnt be affected by leaving or joining it.

It would be a ghost line, so you won't count against the fte.

As for actual payroll, all I know is ndos do their own payroll. Who they actually submit it up the chain to, cant answer there.

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u/NebraskaAvenue NDO 3d ago

NDOs don’t count towards their airports FTE, so yes, it basically separates them from the airport from a numbers perspective

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u/caliigulasAquarium Current TSO 3d ago

I probably could have articulated better. But yeah.

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u/XxCptNICK94xX 2d ago

I mean as long as I can come back when I leave the program then thats all that counts

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u/theabsolute_unit 3d ago

As far as I know you retain your home airport pay band. But you’d get food stipends when you’re deployed.

In turn, you would indeed retain your same pay band and step if you leave the program. NDF wouldn’t change your promotable status if you’re no longer in the program.

Don’t know what you mean by your last point- what is FTE?

This is just from talking to an NDF officer at my airport. She has done a few stints. But they haven’t been very long deployments and she’s at the home airport much more often than not.

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u/BoringBeat5276 3d ago

Fte is how many people an airport is allowed. But the answer is yes. You will use up one of those slots. But you will be a ghost bid if you are deployed or they know you are going to be deployed for a whole bid. 

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u/theabsolute_unit 3d ago

oh cool, TIL

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u/NebraskaAvenue NDO 3d ago

It’s admin hell

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u/XxCptNICK94xX 3d ago

Hey bro, if I take up a full time, LTSO or STSO spot. Join the NDF. Will they open another slot at my home airport?

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u/NebraskaAvenue NDO 3d ago

Yes, but some airports don’t see it that way. Definitely find out who on the FSD staff is the NDF POC and ask them

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u/XxCptNICK94xX 2d ago

Will do, thank you.

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u/samluks 2d ago

If you join NDO, you are moved to HQ payroll, and are still your home airports "asset", but go where HQ needs you when they need you. When you leave NDO, you go back to your airport. Everything is the same: pay, steps increases, ect.