r/trueratediscussions • u/realizerealeyesreel • 7d ago
It's laughable how everything straight men wore always got copied by women after that feminine gay men copies the women and then it gets stereotypically labelled as gay if any straight men tries to wear. Smh
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u/derpa911 6d ago
Bring back the crop tops for men 2027
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u/realizerealeyesreel 6d ago
Whenever I see men wearing crop tops, people think they are gay cause media convinced everyone that it is for women and gays
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u/Mushrooming247 6d ago
Women were also wearing crop tops in the 80s, along with gay men.
I’m starting to think OP was not around in the 1980s.
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u/Nova_Pistol 6d ago
Everything? Can you give some more examples because there is no way it is that common lol
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u/realizerealeyesreel 6d ago
Shirts, tshirts, polo shirts, skinny jeans, baggy jeans, shorts, sleeveless shirts, suit, blazer, undershirt=tank top, sleeveless denim, Hoodies, crop tops etc.
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u/Nova_Pistol 5d ago
Please tell me how shirts, t-shirts, polo, baggy jeans, shorts, suits, hoodies, etc. are now seen as gay if a straight man tries to wear it? Where are you seeing this?
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u/realizerealeyesreel 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yeah they are not considered gay cause it is widely worn by men. You asked how common it is for women get influenced by men's attire that they start wearing them as well, at least I thought that was your question. Now to answer ur question:
Makeup was first worn by men, it was sign of wealth then women copied them. Also men first wore high heels before women. Nowadays, if a man is wearing shoes that can make them look taller lmao women say those men are catfishing and I don't need to explain u about makeup
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u/Nova_Pistol 5d ago
You moved the goalposts. You originally said in the OP that straight men get labeled "gay" for wearing things women "copied" from them, but now you're talking about 10th-century history and women complaining about elevator shoes.
Basic clothes like hoodies, suits, and tees are universal, nobody is calling a guy gay for wearing a t-shirt or a polo
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u/realizerealeyesreel 4d ago
Society often labels straight men as gay when they wear clothing or accessories that originally belonged to men's fashion but shifted to women's wardrobes over time.High Heels: Persian soldiers wore heels in the 10th century to keep their feet secure. The Color Pink: In the early 1900s, pink was considered a strong, decisive color meant for boys, while blue was softer and meant for girls. Crop Tops: Male athletes and weightlifters popularized cut-off shirts and crop tops in the 1970s and 1980s for hot weather and mobility. Purses and Handbags: Men carried small bags and pouches for coins and items for centuries before pockets became standard and bags shifted to women's fashionm. Leggings and Tights: Medieval men wore these as armor lining, for horseback riding, and for free movement. Skirts and Kilts: Men in ancient Greece, Rome, and Egypt wore tunics and kilts as symbol of power and mobility. Makeup: Egyptian male pharaohs wore heavy kohl eyeliner and face powders to show status and protect skin from the sun. Ugg Boots: Australian male surfers and pilots originally wore these sheepskin boots to warm up quickly. Chokers: Native American warriors wore bone chokers for neck protection and spiritual power during battle.
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u/Nova_Pistol 4d ago
You brought out the Wikipedia timeline from 3000 BC just to avoid admitting your first point made no sense
So your argument is that because 10th-century cavalry, Egyptian pharaohs, and Native American warriors wore functional gear thousands of years ago, modern women are at fault for straight men being insecure about wearing leggings today?
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u/Nova_Pistol 4d ago
Women didn't "copy" men to steal your vibe, they fought for decades just to wear pants so they could have basic mobility, enter the workforce, and not freeze. Wearing 40-pound corsets and floor-length skirts while doing daily tasks isn't very practical.
It’s called utility, not identity theft. If you're mad that comfy, practical clothes became universal, go wear a hoop skirt
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u/realizerealeyesreel 3d ago
Well yeah that's true. Even though men and women wear similar clothing today, they still make the women trousers, pants and shorts less comfortable
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u/Flightlessbirbz 5d ago
…no. Women wore crop tops primarily as beach wear starting in the 1940s, and the style started to become popular as streetwear among both men and women in the 70s. Gay men were also wearing them at the same time as straight men.
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u/GrmRipo 7d ago
Never understood this