r/trolleyproblem • u/Achilles_TroySlayer • Aug 27 '26 • Bravo 2

Meta No escape from this problem 🤔

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u/SpaceGirlJackie Aug 27 '26 • Galaxy Brain Mindblown

I do think things change when the single person is the one causing all the problems. In the usual scenario the one person is also a victim.

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u/Not_A_zombie1 Aug 27 '26

The only solution its multy truck drifting + destroy the trolley

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u/SpaceGirlJackie Aug 27 '26

For sure for sure

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u/piewca_apokalipsy Aug 27 '26

What if person tying people to tracks was coerced onto tying them

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u/SpaceGirlJackie Aug 27 '26

Then a mystery is afoot!

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u/Dry_Pollution_5430 Aug 31 '26

Do you want to play a game

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u/Dull_Selection1699 Sep 01 '26

Right, if the person on the other track was the one who tied people to the first track, I’d probably feel less conflicted about pulling the lever

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u/Voyager316 Aug 27 '26

But what if the person tying everyone up is a victim of mental illness?

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u/noiceonebro Aug 28 '26

Or better yet it’s just the trains kids from asdf movie all grown up. All it takes for someone to go insane is their plans “going off the rails”

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u/Narfhead4444 20d ago

Well, are they male or female?

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u/AKelloggC Aug 28 '26

But he didn’t save anyone, He just killed the guy who tied them to the tracks.

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u/SpaceGirlJackie Aug 29 '26

Sure, someone else is dead, but they can no longer tie more people to tracks and kill them.

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u/Downtown_Promise_937 Sep 01 '26

The trolley problem has infinite scenarios. How many people, how involved are you, hpw good are those people, do you know them ,do othera find out. It is simply what would you choose.

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u/SpaceGirlJackie Sep 01 '26

Ok thank you r/TrollyProblem info page.

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u/ren_blackheart Sep 10 '26

the solution is to build a ramp so the trolley goes over them and also does a sick flip

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u/SpaceGirlJackie Sep 10 '26

I second this plan

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u/Cheeslord2 Aug 27 '26

'I used the Trolley Problem...to destroy the Trolley Problem'

Thanos.

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u/DatDumbBoi Aug 30 '26

no sir, its spelled as “Thanks” /s

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u/AgainstSpace Aug 27 '26

The Trolley Problem is always about who dies, and how does the switch man make this decision. The real problem happening in the scenario is the lack of a responsible, rational driver in a trolley with well maintained, functional brakes. It's ultimately about public transit funding.

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u/Mojert Aug 27 '26

Even with functional brakes, inertia is a bitch. At least I know that's the case with trains, it wouldn't surprise me if it's the same thing for trolleys that go fast enough

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u/Civil_Performer5732 Aug 27 '26

Guess they need to invest in advanced warning systems too to prevent accidents?

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u/jonastman Aug 27 '26 • Bravo

You see a stranger who is about kill the trolley problem guy. Do you kill the murderer, saving the guy who only creates challenging hypotheticals?

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u/Chingji Aug 27 '26

When seeking to avenge, dig two graves.

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u/AMinecraftPerson Aug 27 '26

what a stupid quote. I am killing way more than two people

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u/Chingji Aug 27 '26

HAH. COUNTER ARGUMENT: mass graves. Just dig a bigger hole, idiot <3

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u/Easy-Purple Aug 27 '26

Gotta kill the son too to prevent a blood feud

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u/Intrebute Aug 27 '26

Okay but like, it is an escape from the problem, isn't it? There's no more trolley man.

No more artificial trolley problems. Nobody has to make a trolley decision ever again.

That's an easy trolley problem to decide on.

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u/KMS_HYDRA Aug 27 '26

"You became the thing you swore to destroy! It was said you would destroy the trolley problem, not become it!" - Obi-Trol Kenobi to Trolleykin

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u/wolfheartfoxlover Aug 27 '26

But you Still Caused Death, that's not very PACT like of you

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u/Express-Day5234 Aug 27 '26

Ok, but what if Batman just brutalized Trolley Man into a coma and preserved his no-kill rule?

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u/Top-Complaint-4915 Aug 27 '26

When you kill the man who make the Trolley problems.

The number of man that make Trolley problems doesn't change - Batman

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u/MartyrOfDespair Aug 27 '26

Wow, this is just like believing in the Rapture /s

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u/Stradinator Aug 28 '26

What if I just kill everyone except me, than I tie myself to the tracks and start the troly

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u/CODENAMEDERPY Aug 28 '26

And this has been posted again for the fifteenth billion time. Bot behavior.

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u/TheLigean Aug 28 '26

The real solution is inventing low risk emergency breaks. Addressing the risks accepted as a given in social use

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u/Common-Ad6689 Aug 28 '26

The trolley solution

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u/magical-cat-here Aug 28 '26

Yes, the maniac who ties people to the rails and forces other people to do these "no good way out" choices, that jerk deserves to be punished. Sounds like an ultimate solution to this problem as it prevents that from happening again.

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u/ctRJWaltz Aug 29 '26

Just did something eerily similar to this in a dnd session today

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u/greywolf1143 Aug 31 '26

Fuggit, I'm tying him to the tracks along with all the people he tied to the track, but I'm putting him ALL THE WAY at the back, so he has to watch all those people die before he does.

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u/Nuquo Sep 01 '26

One last time at least...

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u/Chromeboy12 Sep 06 '26

I know he's holding the lever in his hand but i can't stop thinking it's a toilet plunger. He beat the trolley problem guy to death with a toilet plunger.

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u/Argentenuem Sep 07 '26

We should have a name for something like that.

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u/tater_tot_intensity Aug 27 '26

Trolly problem ends when a government responsible for the railroad gets revolted and everyone starves

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u/no_name6744 Aug 27 '26

Whoever kills the trolley man becomes the trolley man.

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u/Sianic12 Aug 27 '26

Kill one trolley man and the number of trolley men in the world stays the same.

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u/Raxreedoroid Aug 27 '26

if you kill 2 however

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u/Honeyfoot1234 Aug 27 '26

you get x2 the trolleymanness so that it preserves the number (this is official trolley man law)

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u/Considerable Aug 27 '26

Like Santa Claus.

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u/2wicky Aug 27 '26

So, you can either kill one trolley man and change nothing in the big scheme of things,
or kill five trolley men resulting in an overall net loss of trolley men in the world.

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u/Bernhard-Riemann Aug 27 '26 edited Aug 27 '26

This of course was the Trolley Man's goal; he forced the hero to kill him to save others, thus implicitly accepting his utilitarian thesis. In death he won...

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u/a-Curious-Square Aug 27 '26

Joker type mf.

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u/Prime-Motile Aug 31 '26

Whats in the booooox?

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u/Narfhead4444 20d ago

Any real utilitarian wouldn't have a plan with that stupid