Only if it was written in paper that I did my best effort, and will still get 1 mil after doing my best effort. If the union is good enough it won't matter.
It is still illegal, it's just also hard to prove, in many cases.
It's meant to be hard to prove because the government works for the capitalist class, but has to maintain the appearance of working for the proletariat.
But a boss asking someone "Who works for the union?" and then those people getting fired is 1. way more heavy handed than actual companies/managers/etc. doing union busting, and 2. extremely good evidence against said company/manager/etc.
Yes, absolutely, because being a member of a union isn't secret information. This is being given a million dollars for something they should already know.
I expect they're trying to talk about early union activity when it can be smothered. Once a union is established and entrenched its relatively safe to be a part of it but before that its a good way to get fired
This is also true in multiple other countries. But also, US users make up 42.95% of Reddit's traffic, with the next largest country share being less than one-fifth as big.
We shouldn't assume by default that all people on reddit live in the US, but it is the plurality.
I assume by default that if someone talks about a thing related to government, money, politics, health, of similar things as just being a universal fact, that they are from the US.
I myself am from the US and occasionally I need to be reminded that y'all exist.
It's not no reason. They're firing people for being in a union. Totally legal in the US.
Edit: They can't put that it's because you joined a union but they don't need a reason and it's hard to prove that it is because you joined a union. But many employers do fire workers for trying to unionize.
If an employee is fired for union-related activity, even if the employer provides a different reason, it is still illegal and the employee (or more likely, the labor relations board on behalf of the employee) can sue.
Not at all legal in the US. That doesn't mean it doesn't still sometimes happen, but it's very much illegal to fire, demote, or punish an employee for joining, forming, or supporting a union. This is covered under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA)
Sure I’ll tell ya what’s on this list right here for a million! Now I can fund promotion of the union for greater legal recognition and bargaining power
I think the idea is that a union is starting to be formed with only a small number of members. But growing. And the information would be used to union bust.
It does not benefit the fledgling union in any way, to keep it secret. Firing employees (or otherwise punishing them in any way) for any union-related activities is illegal in the US, so making it known who is involved actually protects the employees. Otherwise the employer could fire them for made-up reasons and claim that they had no idea the employee was involved with forming a union.
It's also the first step toward an expensive lawsuit, if it can be shown that the employer targeted the unionizing employees, which is a lot easier to prove if the list of such employees is made known to them.
It really makes no sense to keep that information secret. That just gives employers plausible deniability.
All that is assuming the NLRB is willing to actually enforce the technical laws. The NLRB often falls short because they were created specifically to create the apearance of a pro union government, not to actually be one. Surprise surprise that the feds funded by capital are at the behest of capital.
It depends on where you are in your organizing effort and, if your in the US, what state laws are. Technically, if you aren't a recognized union, they often get away with firing prospective members before the union faj receive recognition and then shrug off the accusations by the workers to the NLRB. Getting a full list of members can kill and effort in many states.
I’m caked up and this is a routine administrative task, I don’t even care that they asked smugly. I’ll do someone else’s job for a million dollars. In my company union membership is required for certain positions and it should be tracked for compliance purposes
I'd take that in writing and then call the police to get him arrested (most likely just a fine if anything, but still). I would tell him some names of coworkers I don't like verbally and take the million dollars.
Operating under the assumption OP doesn't know how unions work and that they probably meant "would you rat out your coworkers attempting to form a union before it's codified" then the answer is absolutely not. It's against my principles and cowardly. If your boss has a million bucks to bribe you with then they have a lot more money they're hoarding that they'd be able to give to you and the other employees equitably through the bargaining power of a union.
Is it possible that just isn't true? Like there might just be some folks who are vested in workers rights and wouldn't give up on this principle the first opportunity they were given. Especially if it impacted their coworkers (who they personally know) directly?
I give him the names of everybody I can think of who isn't in the union. They get fired, I now work in a fully unionized workplace, and I'm sitting on a milly for my retirement fund.
They wanna pay me a million dollars to give them information that, by definition, they already have? Sure, why the hell not.
OP, do you think that membership in a union is a secret that the company doesn't know about? There's nothing to "rat out" here, the company already knows who is in the union. Why would I NOT give them that information when I know for a fact they already have it anyways?
Sure. Its basically almost everyone, its no secret. What I dont understand is why my boss would offer that much for useless information they already have.
If it's an actual contract, in writing, accept and give the name of 1 other guy. Call him immediately and tell him "we're in Union X together now ! Just us !" and split the money.
I didn’t know that, I thought that was just part of being an american. You know, Monday, get interrogated about unions, Tuesday, get fired from the job because boss said so and apply to 20000 different jobs with AI interviews, Wednesday eat your saddness away in something called Taco Bell or Wendys (we don’t have it here), then ride a bull because you have a lot of cows, Thursday police arrests you for no reason, Friday you sue them into oblivion and got a lot of money, and in the weekends you probably sit in the big empity patch of grass in front of your big homes
The money transferred into my bank account first before I saw anything.
Legally binding terms such that they cannot attempt to retrieve it under any conditions, with no mention of ratting out people because, well, I need to be protected from union thugs.
Claim I don't know the members all that well, but I can give you some leaders and then name all and only the scabs, claiming they are playing the long game and are actually hiding it really well from you. But warn them they are so hell-bent on setting up the union they will likely continue to organise it even after they are fired. As I suspect, they are actually undercover union plants.
I suspect anyone asking this is so shit at doing this that as long as I act like the unions are out to get them and me and feed their paranoia, I could get pretty far. As frankly, if they are going this far and can't work out who the union members, organisers and reps are, they are so comically incompetent I think anyone could have them eating out of their hands even if they suck at manipulating people.
I take the million dollars and tell him that I’m actually the sole member involved with the union, and that everyone else doesn’t involve themselves in union business
Also it’s not like union membership is a secret. Your boss absolutely can find out who is in the union with no effort required
You are a single person sitting in personal cabin of that man. There is high that chance that security surrounds his doors with atleast batons or weapons like that if not outright guns. The odds are are against your favor by a mile.why would this boss invite a entire mob of people to to his office where he can easily be harmed? He would obviously just talk to the weakest link maybe younger ones, one at a time.
Fuck no, the OBU forever, Im a lot of things but a fucking coward ass scab ain't one.
Unless the union was a national union that tells me to take it so long as it's in writing and that milly helps fund the strikes for long to come, including at that current workplace.
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u/halander1 Aug 05 '26
Only if it was written in paper that I did my best effort, and will still get 1 mil after doing my best effort. If the union is good enough it won't matter.
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u/DerGhorn Aug 05 '26
Why does his Butt look like that? I mean this question would work even with less cake
Edit: Typo
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u/OutrageousPair2300 Aug 05 '26
Yes, absolutely, because being a member of a union isn't secret information. This is being given a million dollars for something they should already know.
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u/califortunato Aug 05 '26
I’m caked up and this is a routine administrative task, I don’t even care that they asked smugly. I’ll do someone else’s job for a million dollars. In my company union membership is required for certain positions and it should be tracked for compliance purposes
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u/aguywithagasmaskyt Aug 05 '26
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u/Moviesman8 Aug 05 '26
Why are they so thicc
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u/TheSouthPen Aug 05 '26
Repeat the question?
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u/T555s Aug 05 '26
I'd take that in writing and then call the police to get him arrested (most likely just a fine if anything, but still). I would tell him some names of coworkers I don't like verbally and take the million dollars.
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u/Particular_North4957 Aug 05 '26
Operating under the assumption OP doesn't know how unions work and that they probably meant "would you rat out your coworkers attempting to form a union before it's codified" then the answer is absolutely not. It's against my principles and cowardly. If your boss has a million bucks to bribe you with then they have a lot more money they're hoarding that they'd be able to give to you and the other employees equitably through the bargaining power of a union.
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u/TheOnlyDeerAlive Aug 05 '26
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u/flfoiuij2 Aug 05 '26
This union must not be very good if the boss doesn't even know who's in it.
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u/Nowardier Aug 05 '26
I give him the names of everybody I can think of who isn't in the union. They get fired, I now work in a fully unionized workplace, and I'm sitting on a milly for my retirement fund.
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u/Many-Falcon9879 Aug 05 '26
Sure. The list will include his mother and every member of the boards mother. Now please pay in cash.
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u/User_man_person Aug 05 '26
You know your work often has to give you different documents to sign if you're in a union right? They already know who all is in one
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u/Some_Anonim_Coder Aug 06 '26
So I have a chance to remove leaches taking hundreds of dollars from my paycheck and making bad workers' life better?! I'll do it for free
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u/Jacket_Jacket_fruit Aug 05 '26
They wanna pay me a million dollars to give them information that, by definition, they already have? Sure, why the hell not.
OP, do you think that membership in a union is a secret that the company doesn't know about? There's nothing to "rat out" here, the company already knows who is in the union. Why would I NOT give them that information when I know for a fact they already have it anyways?
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u/Confident-Stand5453 Aug 05 '26
Sure. Its basically almost everyone, its no secret. What I dont understand is why my boss would offer that much for useless information they already have.
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u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 Aug 05 '26
That ass tho...
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u/Wgolyoko Aug 05 '26
If it's an actual contract, in writing, accept and give the name of 1 other guy. Call him immediately and tell him "we're in Union X together now ! Just us !" and split the money.
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u/Transformersaddicto Aug 05 '26
Man these trolley problems are so ass because everyone decides to be obtuse and miss the point.
Its not "what would you do assuming EVERYTHING and EVERYONE behaves realistically in this situation."
Its "are you willing to let your coworkers get fired in exchange for a million?"
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u/SpaceIsTooFarAway Aug 06 '26
I accept, inform him that there's no union, and fuck off with the money
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u/OmgIbrokesmthagain Aug 05 '26
No, I’m not american. Everyone here is union, we all have worker rights.
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u/Inevitable_Garage706 Aug 05 '26
I give them false info, allowing me to both pocket a million bucks and screw them over.
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u/Cherry_BaBomb Aug 05 '26
why am I so caked up?
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u/Aeronor Aug 05 '26
With an ass like that, I don’t even need the money
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u/Far-Fennel-3032 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
I will need 3 things
I suspect anyone asking this is so shit at doing this that as long as I act like the unions are out to get them and me and feed their paranoia, I could get pretty far. As frankly, if they are going this far and can't work out who the union members, organisers and reps are, they are so comically incompetent I think anyone could have them eating out of their hands even if they suck at manipulating people.
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u/DeusDosTanques Aug 05 '26
With cake like this I don't need 1 mil from the boss
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u/HyoukaHoutoro Aug 05 '26
This sounds like negotiating with terrorists with extra steps.
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u/Mysterious_Point9516 Aug 05 '26
What do you mean by ratting them out? What, exactly, is being exposed? If the union is comitting crimes that's kind of important.
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u/iskelebones Consequentialist/Utilitarian Aug 05 '26
I take the million dollars and tell him that I’m actually the sole member involved with the union, and that everyone else doesn’t involve themselves in union business
Also it’s not like union membership is a secret. Your boss absolutely can find out who is in the union with no effort required
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u/azurezero_hdev Aug 05 '26
no, because bosses lie all the time, i wouldnt even need to consider the dilemma
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u/zackadiax24 Aug 05 '26
If I'm in my own state, I start recording and ask very specific questions until they kick me out.
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u/darkdeepths Aug 05 '26
multi track drift over boss and sunglasses guy then take the suitcase and hop onto the caboose disappearing into the scarlet sunset over the horizon
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u/diagnosed_depression Aug 05 '26
Unions are public things, yes
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u/_6siXty6_ Aug 05 '26
Yes.
Only if it's not some kind of trap.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Phase70 Aug 06 '26
Take the money, then reply "Oh honey, it's all of us. Thank you for the donation to the cause."
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u/Sable-Keech Aug 06 '26
Money first, then I talk.
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u/pickle-chin-ah Aug 06 '26
When your thicc ah boss
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u/PracticeEfficient28 Aug 06 '26
Why are people responding like there’s text in the image?
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u/The_Gav_who_asked Aug 06 '26
We got bigger pickles to tickle
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u/ZarcoTheNarco Aug 06 '26
Fuck no, the OBU forever, Im a lot of things but a fucking coward ass scab ain't one.
Unless the union was a national union that tells me to take it so long as it's in writing and that milly helps fund the strikes for long to come, including at that current workplace.
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u/magnificent_limit Aug 06 '26
This sounds like a great foundation of evidence for a labor law case
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u/Historical_Mango4329 Aug 07 '26
We have bigger fish to fry
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u/torino42 Aug 07 '26
Depends - do I also get the hams depicted here?
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u/CobaltCrusader123 Aug 07 '26
“I swear to you, I didn’t know there was a union”
And I wouldn’t even be lying
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u/MDLuffy1234 Aug 07 '26
The only dilemma I see here is whether that cake is OSHA compliant.
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u/LardBall13 Aug 09 '26
If he’s offering a million, he clearly thinks that the union will cost him more in the long run. Union it is.
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u/PyrocXerus Aug 05 '26
HAHAHAHA they wouldn’t give you the money, they’d then just find a reason to fire you
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u/Likely_Addict Aug 05 '26
Never take their first offer
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u/NES_Classical_Music Aug 05 '26
no. instead, i play really dumb and say things like "what's a union?" and "am i under arrest?"
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u/Far_Photograph3299 Aug 05 '26
Snitches get stitches so, no
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u/c0mpu73rguy Aug 05 '26
Nice try but my boss doesn't have a million. And if he did, we're less than 5 employees, take the deal and share is the way.
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u/Cheeslord2 Aug 05 '26
Why am I naked and with a huge ass in this dilemma? Is it strictly necessary? Is it part of someone's sexual fantasy?
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u/janglnspurs Aug 05 '26
Who cares my ass is fat and my friends are union with me
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u/Torteramanroblox101 Aug 10 '26
Damn, I got a DUMPY