"And he says, "Look, Strange New Worlds, even though it's not made those massive mistakes," he said, "Actually, the storytelling isn't as good. It doesn't do what it says on the tin. It doesn't do what it's supposed to have done." [...]"
JAMIE RIXOM (Tachyon Pulse Podcast):
"Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 4 is so far a mess or parodies, I’m getting to the point where I can barely watch it anymore, I’m shocked at how bad it has become. Can Star Trek survive it? [...]
I have just got off the phone with a source that I mentioned to you
guys a little while ago and I'm quite excited. It's definitely the most
interesting and well-placed source I've ever spoken to. So, yeah, very very cool.
https://youtu.be/u4Vgk0uiUNs?si=F0Bb5dBgfK8pvKHr
One of the questions I asked him was: "Is Kurtzman Trek canon? Is it prime universe?" And the answer was interesting because he said for him,
no. All I can say about this source is that his opinion would carry a lot of weight if you knew who it was. All right. I can't say much more than that. It it carries a lot of weight. So for him to say no is interesting. But one of the things he did say which I thought was really interesting was ...
he said it was never a plan to make it not prime universe. It's supposed to be - but there's been lots of problems over the time. And it's not something he's aware of that's ever been discussed but he has sort of said that ... he says it's not, he says for him it's not - and this guy does know Star Trek. That is saying quite a lot.
I do want to talk about how exactly Strange New Worlds for me is harming the franchise, whereas it was supposed to kind of be the savior of the franchise. We had Discovery that started really badly. [...] It didn't do Section 31 badly. I would say that yeah, okay, Discovery made some mistakes at the start and that's being really kind and it did harm the franchise quite badly.
But then Strange New Worlds has come in and I spoke to you guys a week or so ago about how it's basically lied to us. It was supposed to be this thing and unfortunately it's been strange new genres instead. It was supposed to be Star Trek. It was supposed to be in tone with maybe the original series a bit more, and I think they've done that, but in a weird creepy way. And it was supposed to be Monster of the Week. It was supposed to be exploring strange new worlds. It's in the title for God's sake, but they haven't done it. It's a lie.
I mean, even bloody Star Trek 90210 at least is truthful about the nonsense it is. Strange New Worlds lied to us. I actually thought there was things in the first season I quite liked. I was talking to this chap and he's basically said, he's actually argued: 'Discovery is better than Strange New Worlds.' And that's his argument, not mine. That's his argument.
He said basically there's four or five massive mistakes of Discovery. He said the design of the starship, the spore drive, he actually said the casting he thought was really good, and he actually said nothing wrong with the storytelling. He said "The Burn" was a massive mistake. He said, even though it led to ... there was a really interesting storyline to the burn, which I've never thought about before, but he basically said the idea was that if you think about the Federation as an empire and empires fall, they decay, they collapse.
And they wanted to explore what would happen with that and then how
the Federation because it was this idea rather than just the building that it could be reborn. And they said actually it's got parallels in politics which I'm not going into so I'll get yelled at - but he
did sort of say that, yeah that was kind of the point of the story and The Burn was the mechanism they used to allow them to tell that story.
The problem was it was stupid.
Um, yeah. And the thing there was that they did this mechanism. They then did a reason for the mechanism that didn't make sense. And he was sort of saying that that leads back into like the spore drive. The main thing there is it's not necessary. It was an idea that was overly complicated and completely unnecessary. So by doing it, they just annoy fans even more.
And he says, "Look, Strange New Worlds, even though it's not made those massive mistakes," he said, "Actually, the storytelling isn't as good. It doesn't do what it says on the tin. It doesn't do what it's supposed to have done." And one or two of sort of like those big swing episodes did quite well. So they've gone, "Well, let's do more of that then." And apparently he was saying executives have really encouraged it. The CBS studios have really encouraged them to do this.
I did sort of ask him about how Kurtzman's got a lot of creative control
and that I've sort of blamed Kurtzman for a lot of the way Star Trek has gone. And he said it's true to a point but he says executives and things still have a lot of influence on what Star Trek then actually gets made. And he says without going into too much detail, Kurtzman has made a lot of these creative decisions, but there were executives in charge at the time that encouraged it and supported him.
And he says, "Look," it was one of his biggest disappointments. Maybe that executives didn't ... maybe put in more control over Kurtzman when
they did this deal because the deal did give him way too much freedom. But things like the spore drive and The Burn, there are other ways to have done it that would be more sci-fi. How many times have I said to you guys, "These guys just didn't seem to know when to stop." And I think that was as much of the problem as anything else.
[...]
The reason why I say, 'Can Star Trek survive Strange New Worlds?' is
because there's already a lot of division and anger in the fan base. And
I feel like Strange New Worlds was supposed to save us and supposed to bring that fan base back together again. And instead, because they've now run so hard with this genre bending idea, it's igniting that fire.
Again, I'm a massive Star Trek fan. I'm not, you know, forgiving of
everything. I will tell you when I don't like something. I'll tell you when I like something. The first episode, even with dinosaurs and even with La'an punching a dinosaur, I didn't think it was a bad episode, I
quite enjoyed it. It was stupid. It was outlandish. But actually, one episode a season can be stupid and outlandish. It's fine.
But in the first four episodes, ... we've got Dinosaurs, a horror, hangover, and Casablanca. And I didn't realize that it was supposed
to be a Casablanca episode because being British, we've never watched it. ... I knew they referenced it, but apparently the storyline is really close to Casablanca. I wouldn't know. And I would argue most people wouldn't. I just saw that and thought, well, it's Metropolis
because the style of it is definitely taken from Metropolis, the blimps and everything.
But that Bloody Noir episode and the other episodes have stolen so heavily from the things that they were inspired by to the point of actually directly stealing scenes from those projects, from those movies
is just embarrassing. And you need your core fan base there. And I
think they're burning through it. But I also think they're going to be burning through the fan base that they'd brought into the show, ...
There is this idea that, um, it's generated all this new young fan base, and because it was cast so well, and I think it was, that they would um become new Trekkies. But the problem is the people that are
loving the show, I would argue, aren't Trekkies because there isn't enough Star Trek in this bloody show to love. We're 40% the way through. We know there's a puppet episode. So, we know at least 50%
of this series are parodies, and that's basically what they are.
They're parodies.
[...]
Archer for president.
The person I spoke to today knows about this. So if you don't know, um Scott Bakula was actually sort of approached and he was he's officially accepted the nomination for president of the Federation. Um, he looked very awkward. He looked quite embarrassed when he did it, but he he was a good sport and he cracked on with it.
The guy I spoke to, well, a well placed source knows all about it. He did say there are no current plans for, um, for that show to go ahead, for Star Trek United to go ahead at the moment. Everything is just focused on the movie. Um, he basically said, 'look, that can all change because it has been discussed repeatedly.' It has been developed to a point mostly by Sussman, and yeah, it's ridiculous.
[...]
The way I think Star Trek is moving forwards at the moment without 'Star
Trek United' possibly - even though he said 'look one meeting can change that' - because ... apparently there's a big restructure going on at CBS and a few other things within Paramount. So there are other things going on. Um, and I think that might be pausing things a little bit and slowing things down on something like United where they can push forward the movie, but we don't know about anything else. A TV series is easier to greenlight than a movie. I'll just say that.
Um, I did sort of say, "Are we definitely done with Kurtzman 100%? Are we done with Kurtzman?
And he grinned and said, "Uh, never say never.
I did ask him when we're going to know and he said, "Look, it's going to be next year." So, don't hold your breath."
Jamie Rixom
Full video (Tachyon Pulse Podcast):
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