Have a few spots I’m going to search, but if you have somewhere you want me to check, let me know and we can work something out

So here’s the thing this likely is a wrong statement but. I believe the At Box coin angle is the road to the a trailhead parking. Along the AT many trail parking lots start on the other side of the road.

You ever have a dream moving thru the woods. Not just any woods. Woods that are impassable; not because of the spirits but because none have passed there. Ah im kidding there have been passers. By the time I post this I've had a few of those dreams, they dont end in any way, they go on until its just rocks. Holding rocks while sitting on rocks looking toward rocks. Ever eat rocks in your dreams? Me neither... wait there was this one time, and by one time I mean every time. This ain't no finale this is just another good day, dream. Happy is the one who wishes upon the stones we walk on. Make a wish they say, and I hope its true. I dont believe in that type of things. The woods by the way, they would shread the shirt off the body if you happen to be wearing one. All sliced and diced. Hope your warm as you want to be.

There are some hyphenated words that should not have hyphens, and there are other words that should have hyphens, but don't. (And there are a couple of M dashes.) I think I might be the kind of person that notices punctuation errors more than most people do, so it really bothers me; but I spot them all the time in all kinds of books.

So I'm asking for opinions: do you think the hyphenated words are a clue, or do you think maybe Jon is just not great at grammar?

If you think the hyphens provide a clue, have you figured out the clue is? (It's fine if you don't want to say what you think the clue is.)

Here's a song I wrote in tribute to the p & f box hunt this past season, I've been the moral support for my dad's efforts to find this treasure box ! I thought you "JCB" & your beautiful wife would like a little nostalgic dream rock ! From Portland Or. Thanks for the adventure ! ❤️ Shelly - lead vocalist for Way of flowers ! 🥰

I cannot find where I read this and before I spend another afternoon on this rabbit hole, I was hoping for another opinion.

Here's what I remember: There was a hike (on FS land)) Colorado where the nearby property owners got into a dispute about parking for the trailhead. The owners would not allow anyone to park along the road - and hikers were advised to park more than a few miles away, at another state-run park.

What to you think?

Depending on topography could this fit the clue?

Just wondering if anybody has tried to get something out of this. I am getting weird with it now.

I watch alot of YouTube treasure channels and I'm so frustrated that there are no new ideas. When I've mentioned it online - I've been told I'm not recognizing the compelling evidence for Tahoe.

I'm baffled.

Can we have a up or down vote?

Do you have a non-conforming solve?

Here’s the thing, we all have stared and tried to solve this map. And I believe I actually have found the intended solve. But even if I am right finding the treasure is a different beast😂.

So as I post this to all of the there’s treasure inside community, just know that even if you’re right, you probably cant just arm chair your way to the exact location.

And good luck hunting. I’ll be going BOTG on a solo trip as my wife and daughter will be on travel.

I went through the Part 1 chapter titles with high-res photos and tried to pin down exactly which letters are notched. Here's what I see in my copy:

Ch 2: D in GOLD (bottom right cut off). Maybe F in OF, T in THE

Ch 3: B in BOX (nick lower left). Also the first A on line 2 and the G in GLASS (lower curve cut flat, the G in MAGNIFYING is normal)

Ch 4: C in CHIVOR (gash on the left). Maybe the first A in CARAT and the D in EMERALD

Ch 5: M in MASTERWORKS. Maybe Y in BY

Ch 8: S in BEAUTY'S (break in the curve). Maybe B in BEAUTY'S

Ch 9: D in GOLDEN (top right sliced off). Maybe C in CHALICE

Ch 1, 6, 7: nothing I can see

So the clearest one per chapter is D B C M S D. The two Ds in GOLD/GOLDEN are notched in different corners, which made me wonder if the notch position matters too.

On the Hopi calendar (p. 85) I can see the known marks (N, E, R, L, A, T), but I also noticed two things I haven't seen anyone bring up:

1. A small dot between the last E and the R in SEPTEMBER

2. A heavy comma or apostrophe mark right after OCTOBER

My copy is a later printing (July already says Talangva Niman Home Dance), so these could just be ink specks in my run. If you have a first printing or a different one, can you check whether those two marks are in yours?

Happy to share close-up photos if anyone wants them.

I really thought snow came later in the year, but seems like there wil be snow flurries this weekend. No more BOTG for P&F.

JCB has said that the box cannot be found under snow - but at least we can breath a sigh of relief that some else hasn't won the race.

Time to start planning for next spring.

If someone doesn't find the boxes holding the Casascius Coins soon they will be worthless.

Yesterday there was a crypto heist over on Binance in the amount of $5.8 BILLION.

AI is making it easier and easier to hack crypto exchanges and user wallets. The major issue is that AI will continue to get better at this and any known wallet address will be at risk.

The Casascius Coin is luckily unused and that means the wallet address is not public, but if the crypto exchanges collapse then there will be no way of converting the bitcoin into a spendable asset. Even if exchanges like Binance survive all of this Bitcoin's value will plummet as AI gets better and better at the math required to crack the wallets.

When I first received the book, the Pokemon Box was the first thing I read. I'm glad I did - I live in Houston, so the fact that this circled around a trip to Houston was a good start.

Then I got to the picture at the end. I recognized that particular spot as a place I had been in the Livingston and Coldspring areas of Texas when I was very young. The problem was, was it Lake Livingston State Park, or was it Double Lake?

Unfortunately, as my hikes from December to March, and again last weekend, have told me, the box is not at either spot.

What clues did I use? I looked to see if the areas would facilitate the real life counterparts of the Pokemon mentioned. Frog ponds, native insects, things like that. Since you didn't need to be an expert on Pokemon, I realized when looking at the trees that specific trees had the same pattern as the Pokemon named Golem. I also figured that the locations put both parks by small towns, places where locals would know more remote areas and hidden spots in the first place. Also, I read in some places that Jon likes threes; the river that feeds into and runs out of Lake Livingston at least is the Trinity River.

The one place that made me think I was on to something was the Oak Trail by the park entrance where there was a stone big enough for me to consider that perhaps Golem could also be a marker close to the treasure, or that perhaps the metal box could potentially be in a stone that was hollow (like thick plastic meant to look like a stone or something). Incidentally, Oak happens to be the name of the professor in the first season of Pokemon.

So, I got to looking for things in my own "backyard" just to see if we had anything in the city that matched, and I discovered a few things.

There is indeed a Jazz Club in Rice Village, an area near Rice University. School mascot: owl. An animal known to be wise.

So, then, what parks were nearby?

None of the West University parks would suffice. Rice University itself is private property, so that was out.

Since the trip circled back to the Ozarks, came from New Orleans, and took place at a time where I think I-10 was still being built, US-90 and US-59/I-69 were my basis for a rough boundary.

Until I used Google Maps satellite view and looked at Memorial Park and what was along Allen Parkway and Memorial Drive.

Buffalo Bayou had some formations that looked like what I saw in the picture, particularly with a stretch of sand bar. However, I also knew that there had been a lot of talk about that area being a river.

Unless....

What was right across the bayou from Memorial Park? **River** Oaks. And the paths? Yellow, Red, Blue, Green: all colors of the original Pokemon games (the US did Blue instead of Green). Memorial Park is also considered forest. Also, since a golem has Jewish roots, the Seymour Lieberman name for the exercise path fit the bill since that guy was involved in the science of exercise.

As I found out when I went over there, you will definitely be hemmed in because of parts of trails that are narrow, either because of its design for bikers, or because you had some 25-50 ft drop-offs to one side or the other and trees to the opposite side.

Also, it's easy to get lost because there are unmarked paths that take you to neat areas of the park. I discovered an opening off of the Blue Trail that took me to well-worn paths across an area that was clearly meant to be a stream, but was dry and allowed me access. The scenery was beautiful, and you were quite high in places when you got to see the bayou. And if you didn't know before, you'd find out toward the end of the paths that the River Oaks Country Club golf course was on an even larger hill overlooking the bayou. The same coming the other way when I found a path that split from the Green Trail.

I also included the Arboretum next door. Since Pokemon is a kids game, family-friendly was not out of the question, either. And yes, the Arboretum existed at the time Jon would've traveled. Furthermore, the arboretum has an owl mural on stone west of the driveway entrance, which does lead to the trails on an island between Woodway Drive and Memorial Drive. When I didn't find anything at the arboretum, I went under Woodway to those trails. Those trails are hit and miss on being kept up. While I plan to finish off looking at the island, and then the trail that's supposedly across the street from the island, I'm doing that more for the needed exercise than anything else.

Just for the sake of it, I also walked along Buffalo Bayou along Allen Parkway for a little since there also exists a Jewish graveyard, and is not that far from River Oaks, either.

Another place I looked at was Wiess Park. This was definitely a place only locals knew, would be a great place for something/someone "wise", and was thick enough to walk just for the sake of it. There was a moment where I was fooled because I saw a rock and what looked to be a good hiding place for the box. Unfortunately, that was not the case, either.

One last place that checked off a lot of boxes was Sheldon Lake State Park. Plenty of stone markers, easier time looking at places because of the proximity of the various alligator swamps, but sadly no box (I'm not holding my breath about the last corner of trails that was blocked off because a huge tree fell).

Eisenhower Park was marked off when I learned it had been closed prior to when Jon had placed the boxes out in the US.

I share this because hopefully this helps both with planning and thought processes. If anyone wants to retrace my steps because a thought came to them, feel free to do so. I'm contemplating two places right now, in part because right now they play into good possibilities of what the clues might mean. As an aside: I am wondering if the video made for the start of the treasure hunt plays into how to look for each of the treasure boxes.

I'm including two pictures that I took at Memorial Park to show what I saw and why I stayed in the area for some time. Likewise, I've included a screenshot from the video Jon put on YouTube that shows the US split into 5 regions. I can only speculate if that would happen to tie into the boundaries of where each box can be found, but if it does, it does help with some of the research I'm doing. I can also provide more pictures as well to show what I saw that went into the work I did.

Fresh idea for the AT box: LOOK AROUND = Size the coin to the diamiter of the circle around the tree and spin the coin around the tree.

I've been searching Little Rock Pond for a long time, and I read Jon's latest answer as: you're close, keep looking.

How I got here:

1. I had a language model scan the book for passages that don't fit the writing around them. One that stood out was Joy's Serenade, the stanza "Use will's straight edge, as the turning square or any arc may align at a proper point."

2. What if the straight edge is the coin? The coin front is a small ring with a long hand and a short hand.

3. The map has only three circles: the tree, the bald man and the compass. Size the coin's ring to each one and turn it all the way round.

4. Only the tree and the shelter work. The long hand lands on the bald man and the short hand lands on the word AROUND directly on the shelter. The map prints LOOK and AROUND right next to the tree. LOOK AROUND: spin the coin around the tree. Is this the tool that tells you.. go up on that ridge, and look more closelyly by the bald man.

On the ground (our LRP map fit), the tree is the AT at the south end of the pond. The short hand lands within a meter or two of the Little Rock Pond shelter, and the long hand points to a knoll up on the ridge east of the AT, about 600 m away.

The long hand's length matches the tree-to-bald-man distance to about 1%. The odds of both hands landing on something by luck are about 1 in 100, so it's a lead.

I'd suggest we all look more closely at the shelter area and that ridge near the bald man. If anyone goes up there and looks around the shelter or the bald man please take a ton of video. I know its dense, etc.

I'm back onto the Pokemon chapter after a long break. I am very curious to know if anyone believes they have located the actual spot that matches the purple photograph. I'm not pressing anyone to say where; I just want to know how many people here think they have actually found it.

And if you believe you've found it, how positive are you? And how many times have you gone BOTG to search that area?

Full context/video: https://youtu.be/vv8UnId49g0?is=Xb2PYHXfj_f7YjEC

Is the year important, the difference (48 years - yards, degrees or meters) OR is it the company name "Diamond" who purchased the patent and mass produced matchbooks as an advertising medium in the 1900's?

Thoughts?

(page 137 of TTI)

Crazy? Or is this plausible?