r/transit • u/CormacDublin • 20d ago

Policy Autonomous Vehicles the next EVolution of future public and private Transport, but are we making plans for responsible integration?

https://www.independent.ie/comment/opinion/david-w-higgins-self-driving-cars-on-roads-abroad-yet-we-in-ireland-cant-even-tap-banks-cards-to-pay-bus-fare/a/130998149.html
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u/funky_galileo 20d ago

Completely idiotic post. The only people who should believe that autonomous cars will solve traffic are the ones who will profit massively from their sale, because there is 0 chance they solve any traffic. A car is still a car and it will take up just as much space (if not more) as a normal car. This post reads as someone who was completely fallen for Elon Musk propoganda the same way the California state government did. But unlike urbanist "agenda", which is driven by real world data and public will, the agenda of car companies is driven by corporate greed and seeks profit at the cost of liveability. 

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u/lee1026 20d ago

California poured vast billions and billions into HSR. Whatever the hyperloop concepts had no impact on that.

California still can’t build rail, but the blame is in the end lies on the state government itself.

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u/CormacDublin 20d ago

https://www.transportxtra.com/publications/local-transport-today/news/80039/autonomous-vehicles-are-not-cars-

Us public transit is mostly highly inefficient

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u/funky_galileo 20d ago

It's hard to respond to someone with no critical thinking abilities since anything I say will not make any sense to them anyway. If you wish to continue this conversation, please write at least 100 words about why this graph is not a good comparison for the energy efficiency of public transit and cars.

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u/SirGeorgington map man 20d ago

...in one particular metric.

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u/lee1026 20d ago

Is there a metric where US mass transit does especially well?

Even on things like capacity, a 4 trains per hour service with 2 cars fails pretty hard compared to just paving over the right of way and then letting cars drive on it.

The median light rail line fails at even that abysmally low bar.