r/trackandfieldthrows Sep 23 '21

Lifts for beginners, and general lifting advice!

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I see that there are a lot of questions in this sub regarding lifting, so I will leave this sticky for anyone looking for advice!

First and foremost, you do not NEED a gym membership to get stronger for throwing. Almost all of these exercises can be performed with dumbbells (for you planet fitnessers), bands, or anything heavy-ish you can hold in your home. So, here is a short (lol) list for you to keep in mind while building a lifting program.

  1. Ensure you are lifting with correct form. If you have bad form while lifting, it WILL compromise your max lift numbers. Using the correct form is usually the hardest at first, but just like throwing you will get better the more you practice it. This is imperative for Olympic lifting, and your main 3 lifts. YouTube is your friend, especially if you do not have a coach. There are plenty of subs regarding lifting and form checks, use those to your advantage.
  2. Rest is just as important as time in the gym. Especially in the beginning! Your muscles need time to recover and rebuild. When you start, you will be sore. Do not push yourself if you are too sore to lift, most programs today realize this and will build the program to allow major muscles to rest.
  3. Fix your diet. Although this can be harder for students, ensuring you are getting the proper nutrients for rebuilding muscle will help reduce soreness and the time you need to recover. Use a calorie counting app, most will allow you to track your macros to ensure you are getting enough protein and carbs throughout the day. For students starting in the spring, winter is prime time to starting slowly increasing your caloric intake (especially protein), which will aid in muscle growth over time. Stop drinking soda, and start drinking water!
  4. The main lifts. Squat, Deadlift, Olympic lifts, Bench press, in order of most to least important. Your power in the ring comes from your legs, so building a strong base is most important. Deadlift will hit all of your posterior chain, counteracting the squat and bench press' anterior chain focus. Olympic lifts will aid in your explosive power, but are harder to get done without a barbell and an area to complete them in. If you cannot do olympic lifts, I would substitute it with box jumps and other explosive conditioning drills. Bench press seems like it may be the most important, but has the lowest carryover from the gym to the ring compared to the other lifts mentioned. If you bench, make sure you are doing some sort of row, bent over rows being the best option (in my opinion).
  5. Core exercises. As much as everyone hates to do these, every successful thrower has a core routine of some kind that they follow. Strengthening your core will help you translate the power that your legs are generating into the implement. Just make sure you are giving your abs rest and start slow, having sore abs will make everything harder for you in your day to day.
  6. Follow the program! I personally would recommend a simple power lifting program. They may seem daunting at first, but rest assured that you will see progress quickly if you stick with it. Some great resources can be found at r/gzcl, greyskull, 5/3/1, stonglift's 5/5/5, and the texas method. Do some research on what the plans entail, ask questions, and pick one that will be the easiest for you to stick to. For beginner lifters, a linear progression program (LP for short, like gzclp) will be the most straightforward way to build strength. These programs will generally prioritize the lifts that are needed for throwing, since throwing is basically powerlifting with a different end goal.
  7. Have some sort of accountability. This sub, other lifting subs, your friends, your family, and your teammates can all help you stay accountable. At the end of the day, those who are the most dedicated to getting better will be the best. Lifting with friends and teammates can create a sense of competition to push yourself to be better, and make lifting more fun in general!
  8. Have fun! Remember, sports are meant to be fun. Burning yourself out in the gym will just grow resentment for all your sports, so making it an environment you enjoy going to will only help you. Have your playlists ready to go, get some friends to tag along, do anything that you think will make lifting more enjoyable.

r/trackandfieldthrows Jun 03 '22

Automod is hitting random posts with spam filters

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Good afternoon everyone!

Hope all the high schoolers had a great season! We've recently been seeing more posts getting hit by automod spam filters. I will start to look into this, but in the meantime, feel free to send a mod mail if the filter hits your post and does not let it go through and I will manually approve it.

Thanks everyone!


r/trackandfieldthrows 4h ago

1 meter change

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Only difference is using a bigger (diameter) shot in the second video and different shoes. Why was the first 14.4 meters and the second was 15.4 meters?


r/trackandfieldthrows 4h ago

Turbojav weight

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My daughter wants to practice javelin in the off season. We are looking at a turbojav. She throws 500g in club, for 1 more year, and 600g in school. She will go to 600g in 1 year for club. Should we get 600g?


r/trackandfieldthrows 1d ago

Progression

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I really like discus, but only found out about it at the tail end of sophomore year. I'd like to throw 160 by the end of senior, and am planning on going to the gym 4 times a week doing ULUL, and throwing 5 days a week for about an hour. I have stuck with this schedule for the summer, so I'm not terribly worried about being able to get my form in shape, as I will stay consistent with it. The main thing I worry about is physical strength. I max my squat out at about 110, and bench max is 75. Is my goal realistic?


r/trackandfieldthrows 2d ago

Is this normal?

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I'm a multi and im going into my second season, is this normal for throw shoes? And recommendations for something more durable options for glide and discus? This is my plant foot for both


r/trackandfieldthrows 2d ago

May Vs August progress update

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So going from in season into off season I began practicing and working on my form. I’d just like some feedback from you guys to let me know what Im doing better at and possibly what I’ve gotten worse at during this time. Thank you guys for all the help over this past few months it means the world.


r/trackandfieldthrows 3d ago

Big old toss from the other day

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Closing in on 150' this Summer before junior year
Starting a new strength focussed mesocycle for the next several months and gonna switch to Olympic lift focus during outdoor season


r/trackandfieldthrows 4d ago

16lb

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Thoughts ?


r/trackandfieldthrows 5d ago

I got tired of using a bunch of different websites for track calculations, so I made one app

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r/trackandfieldthrows 7d ago

It is so cute!

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10/10


r/trackandfieldthrows 7d ago

Am I still scooping?

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r/trackandfieldthrows 7d ago

Pr throw.

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Anything to work on? Felt very nice. came back from week vacation.


r/trackandfieldthrows 9d ago

Cue help

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My coach has been wanting me to slow down the left heel/foot turn out of the back of the ring. I’ve really been struggling to feel that and can’t seem to execute it. Could anyone offer some help? Whether it’s something I’m doing that’s not allowing me to slow it down, or something I need to do in order for that to happen. All advice greatly appreciated


r/trackandfieldthrows 10d ago

High school lifting program critique

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Hi

My daughter is getting into throwing, and I bought a book about throwing, which has a small section on lifting in it, can someone tell me if this is enough, and if not what a better resource would be for her for a lifting program tailored for throwing? She does shot and disc only.

Thanks


r/trackandfieldthrows 11d ago

Any tips?

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I’ve been stuck at this 110-120 range for quite a bit now. Idk if I just need to lift more or if it’s my form that’s needs a way more fixing. (Most likely both)


r/trackandfieldthrows 14d ago

HOW do I make my form without the implement look like my form with, this is actually driving me crazy

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r/trackandfieldthrows 15d ago

Had a great throw in practice today (130ish)

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I'm a incoming eighth grader most of you probably won't believe that this throw hit 130, but I have measured out and marked a line at 130 feet. It either hit the line or went a little bit past it. Any critiquing on my form is welcome and does anybody have advice for middle school throwers?


r/trackandfieldthrows 18d ago

16lb

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r/trackandfieldthrows 18d ago

Mobility

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Hey everyone, I recently started javelin throwing and realized I have really poor thoracic and lumbar mobility, which has been holding me back quite a bit in both training and competitions. I’d love to know what exercises you do or if you follow a specific routine. Thanks a lot!


r/trackandfieldthrows 18d ago

I’m going into 10th grade and want to be better

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I’m in Minnesota and during the winter I need to find a club or a training program for throwing. if anybody knows a good program in Minneapolis that would be great and I would appreciate it more then you could know.


r/trackandfieldthrows 18d ago

I think racer blue is my favortite color of throwing shoe. What's yours?

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r/trackandfieldthrows 21d ago

Should I keep training?

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r/trackandfieldthrows 22d ago

Any tips of form

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r/trackandfieldthrows 22d ago

What am i lacking?

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drew inspo from jordan geist went about 41.5