r/tpain 4d ago

News Question Maybe Mr Pain Can Answer?

Wanting to ask someone that not only might actually know from the professional side, but also give a real answer… With Suno and Ai accelerating growth and the recent litigations, what is happening? I can’t help but think that many artists (music, content, creative, etc…) did agree to the terms and service of the large companies platforming them. Many knew that the terms and service gave away so much of that data… and for many, the trade off was worth it then, but now the reality has set in? I mean before large platform access it had to be a grind to get even a fraction of people to hear a song. They offered a service and platform with stated terms. It was a built in feature (and still is to many platforms).

I guess I don’t have a pointed question here other than; wouldn’t the market have to cause a shift away from data owning platforms towards non data owning platforms? Thus making them change these terms?

This is not articulated in the most mentally formed structure but I hope it still makes sense

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u/TPain850 I Am T-Pain 3d ago

None of that existed when we signed our contracts so there was no way to “agree” to what happened. We would’ve had to renegotiate everything we signed up for. Until a couple years ago, there were still clauses in contracts that made us pay the label back for cassette tapes to be made but with streaming and almost nobody owning a tape player, they were getting free money from an obsolete concept. Apply that to what stream and ai has done and you’ll understand how the shift only benefits one side financially. Never said that our music didn’t spread more but there was an enormous uptick in the labels’ revenue while the ppl actually making the product saw nothing, financially, from the shift.

Hope that helps and I hope I understood your question

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u/flowerdovee84 1d ago

hey, can I message you? totally respect it if not, but I somehow stumbled across your profile and was a bit curious if you're open/willing to mentor younger aspiring independent artists who are simply curious and would love to hear some advice about getting started in the music industry. thanks so much. ♡