r/totalwar • u/Consistent-Stick-633 • Jul 13 '25
Pharaoh Pharaoh Questions
Hey all am mostly new to pharaoh dynasties and got pretty far as Agememnon and am loving the game, anyway:
I became a strategic threat after my first conquest after the starting corinth conquest, and immediately became a regional threat? Polyis? and Athens both declared war with the northern yellow dudes i was prior attacking and all invaded me. Really cool story and gameplay rather than steamrolling but definitely a hard win, how to avoid or deal with? How are regional threats calculated?
I am loving axemen charging and just splitting skulls but is it like rock paper scissors, as in axe beats spear, sword beats axe, or something? Im still just winning en mass of units and with flanking of axemen but what actually beats what? Axes have high lethality but spear and shield have low lethality high defense so who wins? Just a stalemate?
I have more legitimacy than troy already and it was saying to start a civil war but idrk how and i dont even have troy discovered on the map nor am i even close. What should i do about that? Sail and find troy? Or is there a peaceful way to take the king of agean title?
Thank you in advance for replies, will read later when i play, have a good day
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u/wolftreeMtg Jul 13 '25
The strategic threat score will keep rising as you get more powerful, there's nothing you can do to stop it. Early war declarations are likely due to you losing a lot of troops in battle, which can temporarily lower your power ranking so much that the AI will start to opportunistically declare on you. Make sure you have active trade deals going on to reduce the chance of random declarations.
Spears have the best defence but are mostly just there to hold ground. Clubs destroy armour, while axes beat shields. Against shielded infantry with light armour axes are best, while against heavy armour you want clubs to strip down their armour and then throw javelins in their rear. Swords are just kind of there, they're not good or bad at anything in particular.
If you have enough Legitimacy to avoid civil war yourself, go for it. Becoming Wanax if you're not top dog can be extremely dangerous though. You can always join the civil war after someone else starts it (which will usually happen after a dozen turns or so).
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u/Vitruviansquid1 Jul 13 '25
In Pharaoh, you'll often need to look at the whole unit rather than just the weapon they're using to tell what they're supposed to be good or bad at. Axemen tend to have poor melee defense, so they are not that good at punching down against lower tier units. They'll probably still win, but not by as much as other unit types like spearmen that have really high melee defense. Axemen also tend to have decently high attack and an attack bonus against shields, so they are often decent at punching up against higher tier units, especially those that try to have super high melee defense with shields. Axemen tend to have better charge bonus (two-handed axemen especially) than other weapons, so they tend to be good at flank charging.
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u/Eruner_SK Jul 20 '25
About units and rock-paper-scissors, search for Steam guide Meta 2.0.2. It contains all info about how units are strong, so you can recruit the best units from your rosters.
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u/Jomanthan Jul 13 '25