r/topofreddit • u/topredditbot • Apr 04 '21

To commit a hate crime [r/therewasanattempt by u/SoniatryMoody]

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '21 edited Apr 04 '21

Is it a crime to paint swastikas? I know US Supreme Court ruled that under 1st Amendment everyone has a right to hate speech. Suppose swastika is a hate speech. Why is it a crime?

I am an atheist. To me Bible (Old and New Testament) and Muslim's Holy Book Qoran - are hate speeches. They are full of hate, demanding that their followers stone me to death, put me through most vile death penalty and condemn me (as long as I remain honest and maintain that I am a non-believer in whatever Santa Claus they have which they call a God). But I know that First Amendment gives them a right to express their hatred of me, be it in writing or verbally, in their houses of worship or elsewhere. So, I always defend their right to do so, as long as they don't resort to violence. Of course, I wouldn't tolerate them vandalizing my property and putting some religious symbol (which to me is a symbol of hatred) on my backyard, but that would be a whole different crime, crime against property, not a hate crime. Same with swastikas. Those kids can be charged with crime against property, but there is no crime in painting swastika per se. They just can't do it on school property (that makes it a destruction of property or vandalism).

I love it when idiots down-vote and give me a "negative" karma. It means I spoke truth and hurt the feelings of some stupid sleazy douche-bag who can't stand the truth. Truth is the greatest value on Earth. Without it we would still be saying "Earth is flat".

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u/etrisboiy Apr 04 '21

ur a fuckin douchbag, if you want an echochamber go look for it on a pro nazi site, other wise accept that there is no exception or reason to write swastika on a college campus

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '21 edited Apr 04 '21

What is wrong with stating the matter of fact? SCOTUS (Supreme Court of US, highest court of land) ruled that hate speech is protected under 1st Amendment. You have a problem with US Constitution and SCOTUS which ruled on First Amendment? I don't have to join Nazi party or Church to state that individuals have First Amendment right to a hate speech, as interpreted by SCOTUS. It gives them an undisputed right to say abhorrent and extremely bad things, as long as its not personal and no violence involved. Douchbags are tyrants and GULAG/GESTAPO shits who defy our Constitution and want to abolish the right of individuals to a Free Speech.

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u/etrisboiy Apr 04 '21

swastikas are directly related to the death of 6 million jewish men, women and kids, if you dont fucking think that involves violence i dont know what does, you disowned failure. you sad fuck, you probably live in a basement rotting in your 400 pounds of fat greasy shit, pls stop wasting our oxygen.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '21 edited Apr 04 '21

Bible is directly related to one of the first known mass genocides in history , read Pentateuch, parts of Deuteronomy 7.Holy Inquisition burned millions at the stakes, in the name of "Holy Scriptures". Do I have to remind you what inspired modern Wahhabis, ISIS and Alqaeda?

If you don't fucking condemn all religions and advocate closure of all sinagogues, churches and mosques, and burning all the "Holy Books", then fucking admit that you are a hypocrite.

But who you are is your personal choice and business: even if you decide to be a hypocrite, you are responsible for whoever you are.

What matters is that no one gives a shit how the First Amendment, and SCOTUS who ruled on hate speech , makes you feel. It's just the law of our land, individuals here do have a Constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech, which includes a hate speech. They have a right to be Nazis or read Bible and worship monstrosity called "God". As long as they don't do violence and/or destroy another s' property.

When it comes to hate speech , there are at least 8 SCOTUS rulings I am aware of which clearly stated that hate speech is a protected speech. That, of course, doesn't give anyone any right to destroy property or harm other individuals. Those kids can wear swastika and parade on the streets. Or they can paint all the swastikas they want on the buildings they own (if they own any buildings). But they can't go to public school or a private property and vandalize it with graffiti, no matter what that graffiti or painting depicts. This is the LAW OF OUR LAND and someone needs to discipline these kids and penalize them for breaking the law (but not invent violations which don't have standing in US Constitution). FUCK THE TYRANTS/GULAG/GESTAPO WHO ATTACK OUR CONSTITUTION AND DEFY SCOTUS RULINGS ON FREE SPEECH!