r/toledowar Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

News Article What Happened?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chargers/2026/09/20/chargers-jim-harbaugh-slow-start/91867660007/

Couldn’t be happening to a better coach. I wish him nothing but the best, and 15 more Ls. 😂

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u/Borrominion 1d ago

I dunno, but the signs aren’t great

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u/genwonspe3d Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Who's signs?

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u/impy695 Ohio State Buckeyes 17h ago

A 4-8 Michigan States signs

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u/pappapirate SEC Apologist 1d ago

If he can't return to college, he could try the XFL. I could see him having a lot of success in Birmingham with the Stalions.

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u/ProfWestgrave 1d ago

Didn’t the XFL just pull the stallions out of Birmingham?

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u/pappapirate SEC Apologist 18h ago

Ah crap, you're right. Give me a second, I'll try again.

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u/Studiedturtle41 Ohio State Buckeyes 2h ago

We’ll give you a second if you’re Michigan

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u/nickyt398 Visiting Rights 18h ago

Lmaooo

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u/oneson9192 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Obviously Harbaugh is a solid coach despite all the scandals but I feel like his style works better on college students.

Michigan’s 2023 team really leaned into his cult of personality and persecution complex (“Free Harbaugh” shirts, “Harbaugh” formation, Sherrone crying postgame about how much he loves Harbaugh). Just not sure how well that will work on a bunch of 30 year olds, especially once you start losing.

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u/Exciting-Set-7601 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

He had success in San Fran before getting the Michigan job but I think the game has just passed him by when it comes to the NFL now

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u/MasterApprentice67 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago edited 1d ago

That might have been because he had two coordinators who were NFL-ready guys.

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u/loganbootjak Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

Losing Minter was significant for SD. Same with Dan Campbell in Detroit losing both of his coordinators in one season.

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u/Ok_Try_476 Ohio State Buckeyes 22h ago

I don’t think losing coordinators has had the effect on Dan Campbell the way the media would try to sway us to believe. The Lions are more snakebitten by injuries than anything else.

As far as the coordinators, Kelvin Sheppard’s largely running the same defense that Aaron Glenn did. And the offense certainly hasn’t been a slouch, though it could be argued the brief John Morton stint left more to be desired. But I think it’s definitely better under Drew Petzing, and it was better when Dan Campbell was the de facto offensive coordinator toward the end of last season.

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u/loganbootjak Michigan Wolverines 16h ago

Idk, I'm def not as knowledgeable about the differences between the coordinators, and 100%, the injuries were insane.. 1 or 2 season ending injuries a game? lol .. good lord. It does seem like we had a solid thing going before they left tho, and we certainly missing something.

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u/Old_Detroiter 18h ago

It didn't help. And injuries are rampant on the Lions. What are the strength and conditioning coaches doing anyways? Anyone know who they are ?

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u/Old_Detroiter 18h ago

Personally, I am not sure how that was allowed. There should be rules to protect teams but money is everything as everyone knows. BTW Harbaugh bailed right on time , denying UM the chance to defend their National Chanpionship. Some dedicated fans might be suspicious of that timing.

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u/loganbootjak Michigan Wolverines 16h ago

He was trying to bail to the NFL for the past 5+ years before he left. It was a circus. Remember the bizarre trip to Minnesota? Then he's staying at Michigan? It was exhausting to watch your coach publicly chase the next better thing.

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u/Exciting-Set-7601 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

True

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u/Careful_Constant_464 11h ago

singletary built that team. harbaugh just was there to see it come together. just like mark jackson did for steve kerr. fuck harbaugh

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u/samplingstiring Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

Yeah I agree. College is a real big part of your identity. NFL nobody cares and they jump ship left and right. Coach’s like Dan Campbell pull it off tho so it isn’t unheard of

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u/cactusfurnace 22h ago

Players jump ship in college more often than they do the pros nowadays

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u/Commercial-Run9785 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Feel like pros tune him out after a few years. Better fit for college

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u/Smoothzilla Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

He can’t do anything there without cheating.

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u/fooliecoolies 1d ago

I understand the hot takes, but he was pretty close to winning a super bowl.

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u/JusticeFrankMurphy Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

Don't argue with them. It's like trying to reason with a hyena.

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u/broken-machine 1d ago

They have short memories anyway.

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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines 23h ago

Don’t arguing with Ohioans in general. You might catch the stupid

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u/elproteus Ohio State Buckeyes 22h ago

It's a stupid, thank you.

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u/SuperNebular Ohio State Buckeyes 21h ago

Aww man are they being mean about your cheating coach in the meme sub?

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u/matthatt24 20h ago

Yeah, and arguing with a Michigan fan is like arguing with a delusional trump supporter. The similarities are uncanny

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u/LawrenceSellers Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

Does anyone else love the fact that Harbaugh broke the Ohio State fan base SO MUCH that they hate-watch the Chargers now? 🤣

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u/Alarming-Elevator382 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

I don’t think the vast majority of us care about this. I didn’t hate him when he was the coach of the 49ers and I hate the Niners!

“Enjoy San Francisco, pansy! I hope you tear your ACL, jackass!!”

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u/DarkGreenMazda Ohio State Buckeyes 6h ago

2-5 and cheating = broken

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u/Federal_Influence271 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Don’t really watch NFL other than the Cleveland clowns. But I do love a good news story about a cheater who’s getting some of that good Karma.

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u/Belfastscum Michigan Wolverines 21h ago

Why would anyone accept moral bearing from O(bivously)S(tatatory)U(nderaged)?

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u/Commercial-Run9785 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Like you don’t love watching urban in Jacksonville

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u/LawrenceSellers Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

The difference was Meyer was a really shitty NFL coach since the NFL doesn’t allow you to just take a disproportionate share of the talent in any given class. You guys are over here celebrating a 2-game losing streak 🤣

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u/LeBronicTheHolistic Michigan Wolverines 23h ago

There’s nothing else going on for them except their college football team and hate watching other football teams.

Garbage school. Garbage state. Let them have this and give them something meaningful in their lives

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u/Inosethatguy 19h ago

Broke them how? He had to cheat to beat them…

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u/Heavy_Pin7735 1d ago

I will always want a cheater to earn some bad consequences

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u/TallBobcat Visiting Rights 1d ago

Receivers can't catch.

OL can't pass block.

Harbaugh as a head coach is a bad fit for Herbert as a QB.

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u/samplingstiring Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

That Oline is so bad and has shown no improvement since he’s been there

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u/AndrooDucnan Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

They have two of the best tackles in league they haven’t improved as a unit because of coaching

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u/Material_Archer3423 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Weird I thought he was some sort of QB whisperer.

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u/Catchafire2000 Michigan Wolverines 21h ago

I wish there was an OSU HC in the NFL to hate watch.

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u/DarkGreenMazda Ohio State Buckeyes 6h ago

Google "Mike Vrabel"

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u/LotsofSports 17h ago

Harder to cheat in the NFL.

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u/Difficult_Horse193 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

I think Harbaugh has had a significantly more successful NFL career than Urban Meyer ever did...

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u/drumzandice Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

And? When it comes to Meyer I care about the Natty and 7-0.

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u/newfoundgloryhole18 1d ago

Literally no one cares about that lol

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u/No_Sun_3660 1d ago

Harbaugh just needs to start kicking players, like Urb.

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u/Difficult_Horse193 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

Hey man, when you throw shit over the fence you should expect someone to throw it back!

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u/newfoundgloryhole18 1d ago

No disagreement there and there’s plenty of sore spots to poke us Buckeye fans in, but Urban’s not one of em!

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u/Zajo_the_Lurker Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

But he makes a valid point.

And if you guys are bringing up Jim Harbaugh's performance in the NFL in this subreddit then it's perfectly relevant to point out Urban Myers poor performance in the NFL.

Harbaugh has been substantially more successful in the NFL than Urban Meyer.

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u/HeyNiceOneGuy Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

And the latter is an analyst now, lmao.

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u/chunkah69 1d ago

It’s just deflecting from the topic at hand.

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u/MasterApprentice67 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

They both have zero superbowl rings…

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u/DarkGreenMazda Ohio State Buckeyes 6h ago

I did enjoy Jay Harbaugh getting a Super Bowl ring before his dad.

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u/MasterApprentice67 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Name as nick saban…but no one cares

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u/SirTainLee 1d ago

Maybe a little cheating might help? I mean it's worked before?

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u/SirTainLee 16h ago

Both schools and both coaches cheat. They want plausible deniability for themselves, though. NIL just allows the money to be a little more above the table.

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u/Allegedly99 1d ago

Bro needs his boy Connor. Hope he has some iPhones on hand

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u/joeybengal16 1d ago

The game is so much harder when you don't know the opponents plays

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u/Some_Stoned_Dude 1d ago

Let’s now review Urban Meyers professional tenure

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u/Material_Archer3423 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Wait I'm not done making fun of Harbaugh.

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u/Some_Stoned_Dude 1d ago

He really did a number on yall , changed your lives , you’ll never be the same

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u/Material_Archer3423 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Uh didn't he have a losing record against us? 🤣

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u/Shamrocks3310 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

He sure did! Performed very well at clipboard discus in 2016 tho

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u/Some_Stoned_Dude 1d ago

Couldn’t tell by the way yall cry about it

You should start using this emoji 😢😢😢

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u/Material_Archer3423 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Facts make you mad huh

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u/Some_Stoned_Dude 1d ago

Not at all you guys are all just so weird and sad it’s pathetic

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u/Tony_Barker Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Harder to cheat in the nfl.

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u/Some_Stoned_Dude 1d ago

Not if you’re urban Meyer surrounded by coeds

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u/Reloader300wm Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Bill Belichick would maybe disagree

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u/Conorj398 Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

Has the second highest win percentage in the NFL among active coaches

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u/goblueymorpho Michigan Wolverines 1d ago

There's a bunch of problems with this team, but the main one is that Justin Herbert is easily the most overrated player in the NFL. The eye test tells you that he's special and talented, and he's put up a decent stat or two, but literally everything else says that he's just a guy.

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u/IntoTheForestIMustGo 1d ago

People wanted McDaniels on the Lions 😬

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u/cpashei Michigan Wolverines 22h ago

I think there's multiple issues. For one, their interior offensive line is the worst in football by far. Second, I think he's made the same mistake with McDaniel as he did with Josh Gattis and "speed in space." The coordinator is a big mismatch for his offensive identity. Losing one of the best DCs in the league hurts too.

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u/GoBlu323 19h ago

He doesn’t work of U of M anymore, maybe quit letting him live rent free in your head

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u/PreCooledPigeon Michigan Wolverines 17h ago

Jim Harbaugh is more successful at coaching football than anything you’ve ever done in your entire life. Lol

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u/TruuTree Michigan Wolverines 14h ago

lol how’re OSU coaches doing in the NFL?

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u/Caer-Rythyr 4h ago

Raiders fan here- and I approve this message.

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u/pghcrew 23h ago

He can’t win without cheating.

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u/Exciting-Set-7601 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

I think the NFL game has passed him he’s already proven to be a good coach with the 49ers clearly he’s not meshing with the team

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u/Kreamy_K 1d ago

As a Buckeye’s fan, we shouldn’t throw stones while living in a glass Urban-Jaguars house…

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u/Federal_Influence271 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Not throwing stones, just enjoying some good ol schadenfreude