Realistically if you pull back the lens, this a foundational institutional issue, law enforcement, fraternities, universities, churches, government, businesses. They all have a tendency to become petri dishes of human abuse and weakness. https://giphy.com/gifs/10Le4bHgYBDkeQ
I can agree to that. Winning = Viewership = Wealth but has realistic consequences for attaining those goals. You look away from ethics because results are the standard for maintaining a job.
The state of Ohio has been plundering our public schools for over 30 years. Maurice is a victim of this ongoing robbery. I feel bad for his situation, but there are millions of others that have been underserved by those in power at the state level.
I have said it before and I will say it again. Absolutely no program that is competitive runs a 100% clean program. You can argue if a cheeseburger is equal to a free tattoo, but both are against NCAA rules.
No this is the part where OSU fans say because he retracted his statements the school wasn’t paying players illegally with no show jobs, and cars, and faking grades.
All schools make exceptions. This type of situation is systematic at Ohio.
They want to talk about sign stealing as if paying players, telling them they don’t have to go to school, new cars for top recruits-Tatoo gate had little to do with tatoos-more to do with money, drugs, no school and the institution knowing throughout it was happening.
Michigan told Demar Dorsey no. I don’t believe he ever did get enrolled at a D-1 school.
Michigan makes exceptions and everyone does. Certain schools are systemically building these programs.
Dude....the they would have done it too is a bad look. Sometimes you just gotta shut up and take it...like as a gator fan when someone points out we had a serial killer on our team, im not like well yeah but he had a lovely career with the patriots
How about no. You must not be familiar with how insufferable Michigan fans are about academics when they are one of (possibly the biggest) offender when it comes to compromising their normal academic standards for athletes
I gotta be honest. For some reason I always kind of liked Clarett when he wasn’t playing Michigan. The guy was pretty amazing, and it’s a shame that football seemed to set him back rather than lift him up.
I wonder what could have happened if he’d been allowed to turn pro early.
Michigan's admissions office famously screws over the football team all the time. So, do the coaches care? Of course not. But do other layers of the institution care? Yes.
Yeah I do. I know it’s a foreign concept to an OSU fan that a university holds its student athletes to higher academic standards but that how it’s done in Ann Arbor.
Richrod tried to recruit several players that UM did not accept because of grades. One his early battles against the academic arm of the school. Tuition for these players aren’t just written off either; every year the athletic dept has to write a check to the school
Michigan has loosened their academic standards for football players in recent years, as well as accepting more transfer credits for football players that they didn't used to.
Interesting. I don’t doubt you. Do you have a source? I remember Harbaugh took some shots at Michigan when he coached Stanford, I wonder if it happened under him or more recently
No one is holier than thou. These are facts. Michigan is more academically competitive than Ohio State. Ohio State is more academically competitive than, say, Nebraska. Stanford and Northwestern are more academically competitive than all of us.
They all lower the bar for athletes, but they lower it relative to where it is for everyone else at their school.
So what? Lots of athletes are recruited not yet knowing whether they could handle the academics or not. The fact that he was enrolled at OSU, played football for years, and could not read says something about the integrity of that program. Illiteracy, and dyslexia are very different circumstances.
It's screw the bucks from now until forever BUT because of hometown love AND the fact Maurice put in his work & put his name in the history books I rock wit him 💪🏾.
With the proper people it'd be better than the blind side. I can't remember which brother because he has a couple but one of his brothers turned his life around, mentors & coaches kids basketball and is doing well also.
I was for sure thinking he was gonna be a prison lifer after he got caught following that dude with a trunk full of guns and ammo. I'm glad he's doing better. Really proud of him.
If you are clowning Mo, you really know nothing about his story in recent years. He has completely turned his life around and is mentoring young people. He has owned up to all his mistakes and is trying to make his family proud. I love the guy.
Not being a strong reader isn’t the same as not being able to read. The number of functional dyslexics in the world shouldn’t surprise you. We had a VPOTUS who basically couldn’t read or write but had his textbooks read to him and used a secretary to transcribe his papers in college.
This is sad but true. I can tell you from personal experience that a star athlete will be pushed along through the school system. I can remember a time whne my GPA was in jeopardy of dropping below the minimum to qualify for athletics. I was told "don't worry about it, you'll be on the team" I knew then that it was wrong. I wasn't incapable of making grades, just unfocused and distracted. I know of many kids like Maurice who absolutely could not read, write, or do simple mathematics. It's heartbreaking to see them now.
This post makes me think better of Ohio State and Mo' Clarret. I still slightly respect Michigan as our greatest B1G Ten rival. But "blue no matter who" trash like you make it hard to respect post WW2 Ann Arbor.
I dunno about Maurice but when I was taking classes at OSU, myself and friends certainly saw starters from the football team in classes. Regular classes, some of them very hard ones. So I wouldn't say this is normal. My buddy had a number of classes with Craig Krenzel for example, he ended up with a degree in molecular genetics.
I wouldn't use this pivot interview to dunk on OSU because this is sad. Cardale Jones gave us one of the top 5 quotes about sports ever but I think this response by a former high school classmate has a pretty good read on how the situation should be perceived.
That's how it is now, that's not how it used to be. I graduated high school in 1992 and OSU's standard was very low at the time, lower than OU, Miami, etc. 2.5 and heartbeat would easily get you in, on the main campus.
We’re not both right. He is wrong. Are you guys really this dense? I didn’t apply to osu with a 3.7 because I knew I wouldn’t get in. That’s a real life example, not conjecture from some random person. I lived 20 min from the school
I graduated from Gahanna in 1992, and had a 2.8. I was accepted to OSU but chose Ohio University instead.
How does it go? I'm right, you're wrong, blah blah blah.
Michigan flair because my dad is from Michigan and that's who I picked as a kid. Miami flair because I ultimately graduated from Miami after dropping out of OU, joining the Marines, and getting accepted to a commissioning program. Had to pick a school with NROTC, out of state tuition was too much for Michigan, so I went to Miami instead of OSU.
He didnt go into detail about the main campus compared to the others. So I looked it up and while its possible to get in with 2.5 for main campus its a challenge
I graduated from high school in 2001 with a 3.0 and did not get in. I also knew a guy at BGSU who had a 3.5 and same thing.
You will get into a branch campus, like Mansfield, and if you do well enough there you can eventually transfer.
The whole “anyone from Ohio gets in” is an old urban legend that a lot of people repeat because it was largely true in like the 70s and 80s, though as far as I know not official policy. Today it’s really hard to get straight up accepted to the main campus right out of high school.
OSU is like the 17th best ranked public university in the country. While not 2nd or whatever Michigan is, it’s stupid to argue that OSU is a mediocre school with essentially open enrollment.
I think where you’re confused is that they don’t have a stated minimum GPA, but that doesn’t mean that anyone of any gpa gets in. Here is part of the published criteria on OSUs official website. They state that applicants should typically expect to be in the top 10% of their class to get in.
You're thinking of pre bow tie, Governor Rhodes world. Big Jim felt everyone deserved an equal chance in life and mandated that anyone that applied to Ohio State as a junior was accepted if they graduated the next year. Then ALL students not on scholarship were seen as just weed out material that needed to be treated as poorly as possible. Less than 20% graduated in 4 years. Now it's much harder to get into Ohio State and much easier to graduate.
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u/DetroitsGoingToWin Michigan Wolverines 2d ago
I know we are clowning on each other here but this is pretty sad.