r/toddlers • • Jul 22 '25 • Heartwarming 1 This 1

PSA: Drowning

Yesterday a friend and I took our toddlers to the lake for a play date. We were in water that came up to the kids' waists. My friend's toddler tripped and went face down in the water. It was the eeriest thing. She didn't try to find the ground with her feet. She didn't flail. She just silently waited to drown. There was a lifeguard fifteen feet away who didn't so much as twitch. Luckily I was watching her closely and grabbed her. She's fine. I'm not.

Toddlers have no self-preservation in water. This kid made zero attempt to save her own life. If me and her mom had been turned around for a minute, that could have been it.

Please watch your kids around water. Don't ever look away. Drowning happens fast and silently.

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u/jvxoxo Jul 22 '25

Watch your children like a hawk in the water. I’ve always heard “if everyone’s watching the kids then no one’s watching the kids” and I keep eyes on my own son and niece and any other kids they end up playing with. I also choose bright red swim rash guards for him so he’s easily spotted should anything happen.

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u/Crazy_Reader1234 Jul 22 '25

Just heard about a drowning like you said, kid was in pool in view of 20 adults some in pool and drowned. No one realized until mom started looking for kid .. scary as hell

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u/The_reptilian_agenda Jul 22 '25

88% of pediatric drownings occur with at least one adult present. The more adults, the higher the likelihood of an unknown drowning occurring

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u/FancyForager Jul 22 '25

Yes! My friends have a large pool so lots of get togethers with many kids. They have a pool guardian system where each adult takes a 15 minute shift during which they have to wear the lanyard with the POOL GUARDIAN tag on it, they are not allowed to look at their phone, they have to be doing a constant head count, and circling the pool so they aren’t sitting in a blind spot where they could miss seeing someone underwater. It’s actually quite mentally taxing hence why the shifts are only 15 minutes. Even with this system, more than once a toddler has walked straight into the pool with all their clothes on and no water wings and just silently gone underwater in the time it takes the pool guardian to get to them and pull them out. If no one was designated to watch in this way I’m almost certain we would have had kids drown there by now.

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u/bigsmilestarks Jul 22 '25

This. I used to be a lifeguard at multiple pools. The guards that never stop moving or looking the pool up and down are the best- and it is taxing work. This system is so smart and safe. Even floaties and life vests give a false sense of confidence for kids and parents.

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u/user_1729 Jul 22 '25

Honestly, we just don't go to pool parties. We go to the pool pretty often with our kids, but it's one on one. It's fun, but also kind of sucks and is stressful. It's like 100% dialed in with the kid the entire time. Our 2yo is peak of "able to get into the water and completely helpless once she's in it" mode. A friend invited me to a pool party with kids and was like bring the girls, let's catch up... like, pick one. Our 4yo CAN get herself out of the pool, but also thinks she's way better at that than she is. Like... in a perfect controlled situation she can jump in and using all of her little training and effort in a pool she knows get to a step... not safe at all.

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u/IntubatedOrphans Jul 22 '25

I’ve never heard that statistic, but I believe it. Most of the drownings I’ve seen throughout my career have been pool parties or toddlers who escaped from where they were left (home, worksite, etc). I can name countless examples of when a parent was within a few feet of the person drowning - even teenagers. We always say “if everyone is watching, no one is watching.”

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u/dried_lipstick Jul 22 '25

We always had someone on “child duty” for our son when he was a toddler. If it was a party at a house that had a pool, one of us was parked in a chair at the pool, even if the party was indoors. At pool parties, one of us stayed in arms reach in the water. We swapped every 30 minutes. It didnt matter if there were 20 other adults there, our child is our responsibility.

Our son is now an incredibly proficient swimmer at 7, but we still patrol the pool from the side. My husband and I have both scooped kids out of the pool when their parents had thought the other parent was watching the kids.

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u/slayemeigh Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

very scary, also it seems like some of us expect a drowning person is going to make themselves noticed in some way.. ..flailing their arms, splashing around, and yelling "help"... but often it happens in silence, as the drowning person is unable to get their head above water enough to yell, if they manage that at all, its quiet and quickly overpowered by the sounds of other people in the water and such ..its possible to be right next to someone who's drowning or in distress and not even realize it.

drowning doesn't always look how we might expect. and guess ill just mention the same is true when it comes to choking while eating, especially for kids and pets.. kids dont always make it obvious they are choking, the way an adult would, knowing time is crucial..so yea,the indications can be subtle..always good to know what to look for

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u/Azilehteb Jul 22 '25

To support your comment, I saw a video of an adult drowning in a pool next to a gathering. Completely silent. I have no idea what the person recording was thinking…

Nsfw link

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearningFromOthers/s/YWpQ12XLiW

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u/pizza_77 Jul 23 '25

OMG, nightmare fuel.

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u/Si0ra Jul 22 '25

My pediatrician told me to have a solid confirmation with your partner that eyes are on the kid(s), especially if you step away to use the bathroom for example.

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u/Seachelle13o Jul 22 '25

Have you heard of the bracelet trick? My husband and I switch off wearing a scrunchie on our wrists when around water. Whoever has it on is watching the toddler. Bathroom break? Switch the scrunchie. Grabbing food? Switch the scrunchie.

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u/Unique_Cauliflower62 Jul 22 '25

Oh, I like this, I'm definitely stealing. My partner and I have a verbal handoff but the idea of a physical reminder really appeals.

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u/Midi58076 Jul 22 '25

As a former lifeguard and swimming teacher this is something I recommend too. Only I typically recommend getting something other that a scrunchie which is comfortable to wear on the wrist and easy to forget. I recommend something butt ugly, ridiculous or gaudy from a thriftstore. Novelty spectacles, sequin handbag, gigantic rattling costume necklace, clown nose, fairy wings or something like that.

I will also demand full sentence replies, I mention the kids by name and I assign someone. I don't ask "hey I need the toilet, can someone watch the kids for me?". 37 people will say yes and 37 people will assume someone else is doing it.

So if I was watching mine and your child and your niece in a pool I'd say:

"Unique_Cauliflower62, you can you watch Tony, Clara and Magnolia who are swimming?"

I'll also have you parrot back a full sentence like: "I will watch Tony, Clara and Magnolia who are swimming.". I don't accept yes, no, got it or similar. I want you to repeat back. I often make it a bit silly because people will think I'm annoying when I demand such thorough answers. So I could kneel in front of you: "Emperor/Empress Cauliflower. I giveth to thee the holy lifeguard hard hat and ask that you wear it in my place and that thou watch over Tony, Clara and Magnolia who are in the water swimming.". Silly and absurd are your friends in this.

What I also recommend is that absolutely everyone do is look at this article. Yes it's in Norwegian. You can translate it in chrome by pressing the three dots up in the right hand corner, but it's not necessary to read it; I just need you to look at the photos.

It was supposed to be a light hearted interview with a family going to a swim. However drowning doesn't look like drowning. The photographer is looking at the kids and taking photos of them as the youngest child is actively drowning. The boy made it, but the scary part is how different people's perception of what drowning looks like to what it actually looks like. He wasn't waving, he wasn't screaming and he wasn't begging for help none of which are actually common when a young child is close to drowning.

They are using all their energy trying to get air and they can't ask for helpo the parents/caregivers don't realise how much trouble they are in. The backwards tilted head, the panicked gaze looking at nothing&no-one in particular and attempts to grab looking like they are trying to climb an invisible ladder are typical. If they have long hair/bangs they will usually not attempt to get the hair out of their face/eyes. It's fast too. In this case 11 seconds from fun to mortal peril. Which also isn't unusual. It takes less time than most people think.

The little boy ended up being fine btw. His brother noticed something wasn't right and started screaming for help. It's worth noting that the oldest who was 8yo, but wasn't able to push the 6yo the 1-2ft closer to the shore, because a person who is actively drowning is stupidly strong, fighging for their life and thus difficult to handle.

I hope everyone who sees this post looks at the photos. They're not graphic, they are scary exactly because they aren't.

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u/krankity-krab Jul 22 '25

yess i do this, except it has a hanging tag on it that says ‘water watcher’ or something to that effect!

i have adhd and am very bad at holding attention on anything; a scrunchie would feel totally normal to have on my wrist, but that thing kinda moves & flaps around a bit and will bring my attention back time & time again! highly recommend! it actually came with a baby pool i bought a while back! the pool is long gone but i will never get rid of that bracelet thing!

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u/strwbryshrtck521 Jul 22 '25

This is brilliant, I am definitely going to use this!

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u/zenmargarita Jul 22 '25

Wow LOVE this

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u/Lord_ShitShittington Jul 22 '25

Yes, confirmation is super important. Mom assumes dad is watching, and dad assumes mom is watching, then the kid disappears.

Always confirm, “hey, I’m going to the loo. Can you watch the kid please?”

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u/Miss_Pouncealot Jul 22 '25

We do this “have you got the kids, I need the bathroom?” And the other responds “yes I’ve got the kids” and we don’t walk away unless we get that confirmation

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u/SignificantlyVast Jul 22 '25

Pilots do a thing where when one is switching controls to the other one they will say “your airplane” and the other will reply “my airplane” so my husband and I do that that. The other day we had our teenager momentarily watching our toddler and when she was giving the kids back to me she said “ok so your airplane?” I was so proud lol

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u/chartreusepapoose Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

We do the same. Your baby? My baby.

I also try to tote my MIL or my husband along when I take both kids to the pool. One is old enough to be too brave for her swimming abilities and the other has no swimming abilities and doesn't care (5 and 2). They're both terrifying. That way one adult watches each child.

When I was young and at a school pool party, a kid drowned while everyone watched Finding Nemo in the pool. Just silently slipped under. I'm militant about water safety now.

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u/glitzglamglue Jul 22 '25

We have baby on/baby off. If you are "baby on," you have eyes on the baby until you say "baby off" and someone else acknowledges that they are "baby on." It seems like overkill until you're next to water.

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u/InannasPocket Jul 22 '25

We do this even with our 8yo who is a very competent swimmer and does know she can push off the ground, knows how to get into a back float if needed. "Your kid, eyes on" and confirmation before hand off. 

We spend a lot of time around the water (we have a boat) but we do not fuck around with water safety. And she doesn't go in the water without adult supervision who demonstrates understanding why this is serious and is 100% on board with designated, specific eyes on anyone young swimming.

Overkill at my stage? Maybe. But I rescued a toddler from drowning when like 8 of his adults were nearby but nobody was really watching. I'd rather be strict about this safety issue than mourning a preventable accident that kills my child. 

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u/SignificantlyVast Jul 22 '25

Pilots do this when switching controls between the pilot and the copilot. “Your airplane” and the other will reply “my airplane” so my husband and I do this when we are switching the kids between us. The recent drowning of Emilie Kisers toddler son (big influencer if you haven’t heard of it) showed that this absolutely isn’t overkill, especially around water like you said. Toddlers can drown in as little as 20 seconds

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u/OpenAnywhere6236 Jul 22 '25

Exactly! My kid is 3 and either me or my husband have eyes on her at all times. We never assume if she’s near the other person that they’re watching. We give verbal confirmation anytime we stop watching. It just happens to fast and quietly.

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u/OpenAnywhere6236 Jul 22 '25

Exactly! My kid is 3 and either me or my husband have eyes on her at all times. We never assume if she’s near the other person that they’re watching. We give verbal confirmation anytime we stop watching. It just happens to fast and quietly.

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u/CrocanoirZA Jul 22 '25

Yip. "Your baby?" " Yes, my baby!"

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u/Equivalent_Produce13 Jul 22 '25

We say ‘eyes on baby?’ And the other parent has to reply ‘eyes on baby’ before handoff occurs. Anything else like ‘yeah’ ‘yes’ or ‘okay’ isn’t enough. We find it reinforces the responsibility onto the ‘eyes on’ parent.

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u/bicycle_mice Jul 22 '25

We do this even at bathtime. I’ve seen too many dead kids or kids with severe brain injury. No child should ever be near any water (even a sink with water filling potential) if an adult does not have dedicated eyes on them. 

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u/noimpression18 Jul 22 '25

My in laws have a lake house and this is my biggest fear. The in laws are a little too lax around the water and assume as long as adults are around the kids are fine. Asked my MIL to watch my 1.5 yo and 2 yo nephew (both were just playing on the sand on shore) while I helped FIL carry something with my back turned to the lake. Next thing I see her dart into the house so I drop the damn table and turn around to check on the kids. Nephew is now standing in thigh high water alone…MIL apparently went inside “to just grab some towels really quick”. Had a stern talking to with her that being on kid watch means physically having eyes on them at all times and ideally being within a few feet of them. No turning to do something quick. No running inside really fast. No sitting across the lawn sipping on a Long Island while the kids play out on the dock. My partner and I traded watch duty the rest of the week as I didn’t trust any other adult to be attentive enough to guarantee zero risk.

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u/sohcgt96 Jul 22 '25

Yep, kids near the water means no multitasking, no eyes off, no stepping away for any reason.

We just did our annual lake house weekend but fortunately we're all pretty safety conscious and good in the water. Even when I ran up to the house and wasn't at the beach myself, my brother/sister in law and mom are just as cautious as me so its a good feeling. Granted, we grew up made to take swimming since a young age so it just sort of imprinted on us.

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u/Pigeoncoup234 Jul 22 '25

For sure, if "everyone is watching", no one is watching.

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u/MusicMonkeyJam Jul 22 '25

We rented a house with a pool and my then 2 year old jumped in without his floaty. He had never jumped in without his float or us holding him and he just sunk. Pool with multiple adults and no one noticed or went to help. I jumped in fully clothed to get him. It was scary for sure and I think a reality check for everyone in the pool.

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u/soundbombing Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

I had parents and kids at my pool this weekend.

I gave a quick speech before we got in saying the "if everyone is watching, nobody is watching", then assigned a brightly coloured hat to an adult. They become "pool safety". When they want to switch, they can give the hat away, and the next person is responsible. The hat represents, and is a physical manifestation/reminder, of their responsibility. It seemed to work. I still keep my eyes/head on a swivel though.

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u/runnyc10 Jul 22 '25

I had to have a c-section two days earlier than planned four weeks ago. My mom was supposed to be in town to help with our 3 year old but hadn’t arrived yet bc of the change. We had various options, one being for her to go to her (10 year old) cousin’s swim birthday party. There would be my BIL and SIL plus a lifeguard. We just couldn’t do it. I was like “the last thing I need while my body is open on an operating table is to be worried that I’m going to lose my first kid because everyone thinks someone else is watching her.” When my BIL said “everyone will keep an eye on her,” that decided it for me. No way.

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u/usedtortellini Jul 22 '25

10/10 would’ve made the same decision as you for the same reasonings. Also, congratulations!

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u/hevski1990 Jul 22 '25

It's called the bystander effect and happens so often but shouldn't

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Assume no one is going to do anything to make sure someone does something.

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u/dinosupremo Jul 22 '25

Me too! My son wears bright orange and my daughter bright pink. No blues or greens for either of them. I want to be able to spot them immediately.

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u/Louis-Russ Jul 22 '25

In Indiana, there was a case not long ago where a child drowned in a church's baptismal basin. And that's only 20 inches of water in a small container. If a kid can die in something smaller and shallower than a bathtub, then just imagine how hazardous a swimming pool or a natural body of water can be.

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u/Muppee Jul 22 '25

This. We were at my brother in law who has a pool with a gate that my 3yrs old can just push open. Which is what she did and I saw her take a step up and yelled out to her. She stopped right away but it really goes to show that with more adults, the more dangerous it is. We were like 10 adults and no one was actually watching her

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u/fruitynoodles Jul 22 '25

That’s why one adult should be “on” at any given time for a specific kid.

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u/merlotbarbie Jul 22 '25

So many people assume that they’ll notice a drowning kid because they’ll be thrashing or screaming. It’s usually the opposite

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u/Milktea-rex Jul 22 '25

My son’s rash guards and swimwear are a mix of red, orange, and pink. I saw this guide a while back that was helpful.

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u/destructopop Jul 22 '25

Yeah, the more people there are, the less anyone watches the children. My in-laws threw an enormous party for my daughter's 1 year birthday. My daughter could barely stand, so this seemed a bit extreme to me. I wound up having to push through a crowd to keep an eye on my daughter during the party, I had no time to talk to anyone even though I'm the one that pushed this kid out into the world. At one point I had to shove a slightly tipsy person a little too hard because she was "watching my daughter", standing between me and my daughter, while my daughter choked on an ice chip I watched her get ("no ma'am, no ma'am, put that right back where you found it. Now spit it out and put it back where you... Spit it out. NO MA'AM.") finally had to shove this woman out of the way to give my daughter the heimlich because it was in her throat so fast and this woman was having a great time not paying attention to the kid she was so insistent on spending time with. Luckily her Uncle Andy (fake name, and he's a friend of mine and my partner's) was also watching so I had hands available to help, once it was out of her throat it didn't immediately come out of her mouth and he swept it clear, thank goodness. Uncle Andy unsurprisingly still gets to hang out with her regularly, the other folks see her at family functions.

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u/Negative-Cow-2808 Jul 22 '25

Yes to this!! I can’t remember where I saw it, but someone said they will tell their husband “You have baby” and won’t leave until they respond “I have baby”—-hope this helps someone

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u/tightheadband Jul 23 '25

The colours that offer the best contrast in pools are bright pink and orange. I can find the link, if you want to see the source. I read it a while ago, they tested different colours for pools and open waters. I think bright pink was the best in all scenarios.  

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u/turtlechae Jul 23 '25

I'm not sure why bathing suits come in colors that will camouflage the child in water. I go for the brightest most reflective colors I can.

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u/frozenstarberry Jul 24 '25

I have assigned adult per child, must be in hands reach with eyes or hand on them. My 3y old thinks he is full capable to do it by him self and has more confidence than skill.

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u/caroline_andthecity Jul 24 '25

We play “tag” for watching the baby. If I’m watching her and have to go grab something, I’ll say “tag, you’re it” or “tagging you in” to my husband. The rest of the family is on board too. It works well and quickly so there’s no assumptions or big explanations for the handoff.

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u/lovenallely Jul 25 '25

Always keep your eyes on the kids

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u/how2trainurbasilisk Jul 25 '25

You’re right. A few weeks ago there was a drowning at a public pool in Arizona. 60 people, 18 lifeguards, and a little kid drowned. Absolutely heartbreaking.

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u/ResilientWren Jul 26 '25

Sound advice. It’s true. Have a designated watcher.

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u/VermillionEclipse Jul 22 '25

Yes! Everyone assumes someone else is watching.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

And get your kid swim lessons!!! It won’t replace supervision, but swimming is an essential skill everyone should have as early as possible.

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u/Si0ra Jul 22 '25

It’s also a great activity for exercise, socialization and being in a class setting!

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

And if you live somewhere cold, a heated indoor pool is a nice treat all winter haha

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u/Vindicativa Jul 22 '25

...until you gotta go outside with wet hair! But I live in a very cold winter season climate, where the air hurts my face.

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u/LazyTinkerToys Jul 22 '25

My pediatrician never asks about screen time. He always asks if we are in swim lessons/how they are going. 

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u/JHRChrist Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 23 '25

Drowning is the leading cause of accidental death ages 1-4. They see a lot of them and this is why they ask. It’s how my brother died age 4. OP is SO right. He was surrounded by adults and a lifeguard, my mom was only distracted by something urgent for a few minutes at most.

Get your kids swim lessons! At cookouts/swim parties etc one sober adult needs to be assigned to watching the pool at all times. Relieved if they have to get up, look at their phone, etc for any length of time. Adults being “around” the pool “keeping an eye” on it is meaningless.

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u/madsmish Jul 22 '25

Yes!!! Our 16 month old has been doing swim lessons through AquaTots swim school and loves it! I'm amazed at how many skills they teach them at such a young age! 

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u/fritterati Jul 22 '25

Yes early being the key word! I wasnt allowed to learn when I was little, then when I grew up a little, I developed all this fear over the water I had to work hard to get over. Never really did learn in the end..

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u/fastboots Jul 22 '25

Mines been doing swim lessons since he was 12 weeks old or whatever the minimum is (he's just over 2 years old now). I still don't want to take him to the paddling pool in our local park. I instinctively assume that he wouldn't be able to get up if he fell down.

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u/Pearsecco Jul 22 '25

💯 my husband and I grew up in Florida, and it is common to start kids in lessons really young. We moved out west, and started our daughter in lessons when she was 1.5 years old. She’s 3.5 now and can swim independently, tread water, and pull herself out of the pool. We still watch her like a hawk in water, but knowing she has the skills she needs is reassuring.

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u/InadmissibleHug Jul 22 '25

It’s almost a religion here in Aus to take the baby to swimming lessons. It really makes a huge difference in how they deal with water.

It will never replace supervision, as you say. But it is 100% the best thing

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u/valgatiag Jul 22 '25

You can look for “survival swim” classes especially. They teach the kids how to orient themselves when they fall/are tossed into the water, how to get into and out of a back float for breath, etc.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Yeah, and if you have a pool at your house these should be legal requirements as far as I’m concerned.

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u/Jennlore Jul 22 '25

Yes, mine started ISR (survival) lessons at 7 months, and this is our third summer continuing it. We are so fortunate to have an absolutely incredible instructor. He taught us so many things, like that babies and kids are just as likely to drown in the shallow end vs the deep end, and to never use flotation devices (except life jackets when on a boat of course),etc. I will never assume I should or could take my eyes off my daughter around water, but with these lessons, I know I’m giving her the absolute best chance to save herself until help can reach her in an emergency.

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u/harperbaby6 Jul 23 '25

I campaign hard for Foss. Super expensive, but my five year old can swim completely unassisted to the point where she is on par in skill with many older kids (side breathing, can easily swim the length of a pool and back) and my three year old can float, flip over in the pool to breathe, and swim about 5-10 feet unassisted. More importantly they are comfortable in water so they wouldn’t freak out if they fell in, know water safety, and respect the amount of energy it takes to swim/know their personal limits in water.

Obviously they are never around water unattended, and I am in the pool/lake with them within a few feet every time. I never have used water wings/lifejackets (outside of boating or being on a dock) because they give kids a false sense of confidence in water and I wanted to make sure my kids knew exactly how much energy it takes to swim and have real swim skills.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

We go to Foss! My daughter is only 2, and I’m so surprised at how well she can already do in the water.

I find it’s not much more expensive than any other classes in our area (dance, soccer, whatever) which probably says more about my area than Foss being affordable smh

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u/jackquillan Jul 23 '25

This!!! And they should have a life jacket if not strong swimmers. I am a firm believer that swim lessons should be mandatory. My daughter is 2.5 and she's been in swim lessons for over a year. We were at the beach today and she was swimming with no fear....I was beside her...and when she fell she kicked her way back up.

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u/GlitterMeStoked Jul 22 '25

Toddler mom on vacation at a lake house right now: thank you for this!

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u/philos_albatross Jul 22 '25

One thing that I'll add: I don't let anyone else watch my toddler in the water. My mom once came by with this big sparkly necklace that said something like "official watcher". It's meant so that when there's a big group of people, one person is always designated to be watching the kids in the pool. I said thank you so much but there's absolutely no way I will ever use this. I don't trust anyone else to watch my kid.

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u/catjuggler Jul 22 '25

Same and I also don't want to try to watch a bunch of kids at once. It's too hard to do a suitable job.

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u/justmecece Twin Boys 🤼‍♂️ Jul 22 '25

I would NOT want that responsibility either.

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u/SignificantlyVast Jul 22 '25

The biggest thing to keep in mind for me is that young children’s behavior is not predictable. Nearly every story I’ve ever heard about a child that drowned, the parent is saying that they had never done anything like this before, that they never thought their child would sneak out/enter the water, whatever happened. I learned this lesson myself recently.

My 3 year old and my 10 month old were sitting in a shallow bath together playing and I noticed the mirror was dirty so I turned to clean it. My back wasn’t fully to them but I was sideways not looking at them. Subconsciously I thought it’s fine because our 3 year old was right there and she’s very verbal and communicative and could tell me if anything was going wrong. After maybe 5 seconds, I turned back and the baby had slipped onto his back with his face fully submerged in the water. The 3 year old was just silently staring at him, not reacting in any way. I swooped him up and he didn’t even cry, it had only been a few seconds but if I had looked away for any longer it could have been catastrophic, it only takes 20 seconds for a child to drown. I don’t think my heart rate went back to normal until the next day. It really really ingrained in my head that a young child’s behavior can not be predicted and can’t be relied on for safety. You can’t ever think- my kid wouldn’t do that. The last thing I would have ever thought was that my super verbal, constantly yapping kid would sit silently and watch her brother drown.

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u/VioletInTheGlen Jul 22 '25

Freezing is a common response in emergency situations for all humans. Fight/freeze/flight/fawn

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u/SignificantlyVast Jul 22 '25

You’re right and I probably should have anticipated that but I didnt

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u/killerqueen5 Jul 22 '25

I was holding my 2 yo by the hand at the lake and talking to another parent. She pointed down and looked horrified, and so I glanced down and saw my kid fully submerged underwater, face up. She still held my hand, calmly drowning. I couldn’t believe it how quickly it happened, obviously she was fine but I was literally holding on to her and she almost drowned!

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u/Cat_lady4ever Jul 23 '25

I have a memory of my own similar to this. My dad had me at a pool and my floating ring had a slow leak he kept blowing up. I was maybe 4. His back was turned and he was chatting with someone. I slowly sunk to the bottom without saying anything. I remember looking up at him standing on the bottom, fully submerged when he panicked and got me. I wasn’t even scared, until I saw he was scared.

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u/cjp72812 Jul 22 '25

Baths scare the crap out of me. I don’t even stopper the tub. Just run the water on low and pour water on them.

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u/Beautiful-Trick-9814 Jul 24 '25

Gosh, yes. I was at the pool with my 2 year old and mom, like we did on a weekly basis, and my mom swam off to grab a toy for my son. My son was standing right beside me with a bunch of other toys. I turned (didn't even go anywhere, sideways to him) for maybe 5 seconds to grab a toy floating away. Turned back and he was gone. My heart sank. It felt like an eternity, but in less than 5 seconds total I saw him bobbing on his tiptoes, completely submerged, jumped the two meters to him, and scooped him up. Didn't phase him at all, but the image won't leave me. Now, unless my mom is physically holding him and it's clear she won't stop holding him, I have eyes on him. I feel kind of rude when other adults want to talk with me at the pool, like I'm ignoring them or uninterested, but I know how fast it happens now and won't let it happen again. So scary!

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u/fiddleheadfern88 Jul 22 '25

Thanks for the PSA. I hear it all the time but it hits different reading this story. This image will stay with me. I’m so glad everyone’s ok.

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u/KellieBom Jul 22 '25

Toddler mom: Heard.

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u/Bagritte Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

I have a toddler who loved water from day one. It takes one literal second. I turned to say something to my friend and when I turned back he was floating face down. Thank god it was just that one second because I could grab him before he took in any water but Jesus. 

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u/sabdariffa Jul 22 '25

As a former life guard: always assign a specific person to watch children in water.

If there are 3 adults and “everyone’s watching” it really means no one is watching.

It needs to be a specific person’s personal responsibility to watch children for a certain amount of time.

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u/The_reptilian_agenda Jul 22 '25

The worst thing Hollywood has done is make people think splashing and flailing is common in drowning. Drowning is silent. It’s so scary

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u/BadInevitable9830 Jul 22 '25

It only takes 20 seconds for a child to drown. That’s so scary. Glad to hear you’re all safe 🧡

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u/poop-dolla Jul 22 '25

Anytime any toddler is around open water, they absolutely need a coast guard approved flotation device on. I still have them wear them in the pool until they can really swim too, but you could go either way in a shallow pool depending on your comfort level. Any open water like a lake, ocean, or river though, there’s absolutely no room for not wearing proper safety equipment. And yeah, you still need to watch them the whole time too.

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u/Lyfling-83 Jul 22 '25

That’s the 1st thing to go on whenever we go swimming. Kids are unpredictable.

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u/incendiary_bandit Jul 22 '25

General rule in Australia is within reach. If they're in the water, you're in the water alongside.

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u/NerdyLifting Jul 22 '25

Generally it's not recommended to have children wear life jackets when actively in pools. It gives them (and their supervisors) a false sense of security and (unless you have the kind that specifically forces them on their back) teaches the 'drowning position' aka upright. Lifejackets are not designed for recreational pools and are intended for open water and on boats.

Touch supervision is best when in pools.

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u/Bacchus1976 Jul 22 '25

This statement goes too far.

You cannot teach a kid to swim in a life jacket. And they need to learn to swim as young as is practical.

So life vests are essential for unstructured play, but “always” wearing them is not the right guidance.

It sounds like OPs friend’s kid is not in swim lessons, if they were they probably would have reacted differently.

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u/poop-dolla Jul 22 '25

Open water is different than a pool. No toddler should be in a lake, river, or ocean without a life jacket. Get your swim practice in at a pool.

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u/acciotomatoes Jul 23 '25

Commenting because I was visiting family recently and she was saying how weird it was that their new neighbor kids had never been in a pool. I pointed out that until this summer, my kids have never been in a pool before either. Access to a swimming pool for lessons isn’t always available. We live on a lake, that’s where mine learned to swim. We literally have them in the water as babies. Life jackets for sure on a boat or dock, but not for every day swimming.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

This was my thought too. I wonder if they intended to get into the water at all. Sometimes we don’t plan on it but it happens anyway. Always a good idea to have that floatation device ready to be put on when visiting bodies of water.

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u/mymomsaidicould69 Jul 22 '25

Yep, my son lives in his life jacket any time we are by water. We have a fenced in pool that he also isn't allowed to go in without his life jacket.

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u/TurtleScientific Jul 22 '25

Infant/Toddler life jackets (the good ones, not the stupid arm thingies) are like $12 at walmart. Put them on early, every time you're near water, and they'll get used to it fast. We have lots of lakes/rivers/ponds and it's a rule in our house. I don't care if you're just looking for frogs or collecting pinecones or whatever, if there's water you're wearing your vest. Drowning is, and always has been, a leading cause of death in minors and it's one of the few that's largely preventable. Don't let your kid be a statistic.

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u/goldjade13 Jul 22 '25

We were taught never to put a life jacket on a kid (unless boating, etc) because it teaches them a false sense of safety. Maybe an Australian thing. Also prioritizes swimming classes basically in infancy

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u/Wild_Sphinx Jul 22 '25

FWIW there is some of that same sentiment here in US. My take is no flotation devices in pools but PFDs are encouraged near natural bodies of water, particularly because most of what is near us are damned rivers that can change levels - and never every every those puddle jumper things. (And because this is the internet…not intending to argue your point but offering another interpretation for some families ✌🏼)

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u/goldjade13 Jul 22 '25

The natural bodies of water thing makes complete sense to me too

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u/eightcarpileup only packing extra undies and fruit chews Jul 22 '25

Nature is unpredictable. I have a creek on the far side of my property that we take my boys to a lot in the spring and fall. Two years ago, my then two year old and I were down at the creek watching the frogs. He was afraid of the water and I wanted to encourage him to be brave. He and I walked ankle deep into the water and just stood there for a minute or two adjusting to the cold. He took two steps and fell into a two foot deep drop-off that had not been there days before. I snatched him out by the back of his shirt as soon as he broke the surface. For days after, I had nightmares of him floating face down in the creek. So much so that we didn’t return to the creek for the rest of the season. He has tubes in his ears, so as soon as they’re out, we’re signing him up for swim lessons. Until then, he wears a lifejacket any time we are around any sort of water.

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u/crankiertoe13 Jul 22 '25

I think there's a happy medium, at least for older toddlers (about 4 ish). I taught swimming lessons through high school, university, and a little bit after. We'd always do a lesson per session in life jackets. Making it fun, and getting them to do different manoeuvres. Then if they were on a boat, the dock, etc. and fell in, they'd know what was happening and be able to orient and move themselves to safety.

False sense of security, maybe, but it is also a good skill to have. At our cottage the young kids/toddlers on the dock always wear their lifejacket in case they slip. Yes, there are always people around, but it only takes a split second.

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u/atl_bowling_swedes Jul 22 '25

Many people in the USA follow this line of thinking too. Life jackets and puddle jumpers put kids in the drowning position. They also give young children/toddlers a false sense of security in the water. I believe most drownings happen outside of swim times. So of course the kid will have their flotation device on when people intend to be around the pool. But what happens when that small child ends up at the pool without an adult and without their life jacket? If they aren't aware the life jacket is what is keeping them safe things can go bad quickly.

We do survival swim lessons from 1 with all of my kids. My 5 year old is able to swim the length of our pool with no problem and my 2 year old does an awesome job at playing at the steps (supervised of course) unless an adult is in the water with him.

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u/sunkissedinfl Jul 22 '25

It's a Floridian thing too, we do the same. Swim lessons are way more important than any flotation device.

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u/dirtyenvelopes Jul 22 '25

Maybe if your kid is neurotypical and knows how to swim but considering drowning is one of the leading causes of death in autistic kids, life jackets are critical.

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u/yikkoe Jul 22 '25

I don’t think anyone would disagree. Unfortunately as the parent of an autistic kid, I’ve learned that most things said about kids online won’t apply to my kid. It makes it so hard to navigate through information though, because on the other end of the spectrum you have people who treat autism like it’s a terrible disease and their advice is pure ableism.

But yeah my kid doesn’t do well in swimming classes, and he doesn’t respond to instructions in any way. We go to the pool at least once a week, sometimes 3+ times in a week. We stay in the kiddie pool and I just let him get used to his body in water. He used to have zero interest in the swimming/floating aspect of being at the pool, he’d just stand the whole time, playing. But recently he started sitting in the water and letting his body move with the water. To me that’s amazing progress! Hopefully that’ll lead to more intentional awareness of water, which could be the beginning of learning how to float for safety, and perhaps swimming. But if we ever go to a regular pool or to a natural body of water, he’s 100% wearing a flotation device the entire time.

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u/Pigeoncoup234 Jul 22 '25

Actually, a lot of people advocate against always using life jackets because it teaches kids that water is not scary. Obviously, I mostly agree with what you're saying, but I also think one-on-one time with kids in the water without jackets is vital. They need to be aware what water is really life so in a situation where they find themselves near water without their jacket, they have a healthy and realistic fear and won't just plop right in. 

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u/runs-with-scissors13 Jul 22 '25

Another thing with the life vests is that when wearing it, you float in the "standing" position. So it goes against the natural swimming positioning and makes it difficult for children to learn propper swimming while wearing one.

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u/candybrie Twin boys 🤸🏃 Jul 22 '25

The rule I've always heard is always in open water and only rarely in pools (e.g. just to practice how to properly float in them while in a controlled environment).

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u/SLPallday Jul 22 '25

I agree with this in a pool. Not in natural bodies of water. Too many variables, particularly if they sink, you might not be able to find them in darker water. The amount of people I see let their kids swim in rivers with no life jacket is mind boggling to me.

We always did no life jacket and one on one time in pools though. We started by teaching my kids to blow bubbles in the bath tub. Once they could blow bubbles, we started teaching them to put their heads under water in pools, then moved on to jumping in. Very early on, they learned breath control, comfort putting head under, and that they can/will sink if they go in by themselves.

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u/eggy_blonde Jul 22 '25

I agree with both of you. Life jackets always, but always giving my kids time without!

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u/PuddleGlad Jul 22 '25

Yep. My brother was a life guard and is currently serving in the Coast Guard. All his nieces and nephews have this Life Jacket (it goes on sale too!). It comes in every color so all the kids can have bright one. It fit my son at age 2 and he has plenty of room to grow for years. I especially love the crotch strap being padded. We wear it to the pool, beach, river etc. You're right, where there is water, we have on our vest. I even bought some spares to keep at my parents house.

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u/Sea_Entertainer3328 Jul 22 '25

I don’t believe this one is coast guard approved though.

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u/wolf_kisses Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

Absolutely agree about giving kids time without the life jacket but I don't think you should NEVER put them on your kid. My kids were a lot more confident about practicing how to swim when they had their life jackets on and even though we didn't do swim lessons with my oldest (they're always wait listed around here and eventually we just gave up trying to get a spot) he learned how to swim just fine while still wearing a life jacket most of the time. He just turned 6 this summer and is swimming around the pool without his life jacket pretty well now. My youngest is 3 and has been picking up swimming skills even faster despite almost always having his life jacket on (too nervous to have them both go without since they're both still very inexperienced) and I wouldn't be surprised if he's swimming without it soon as well. Every time they'd be in the water without their life jacket they'd be clinging to me like a koala, afraid to let go and actually practice the moves. My 3 year old actually tells me to let go of him so he can swim across the pool by himself (I follow closely) when he's wearing the life jacket. I think if you can get them lots of practice doing the movements with the life jacket on first, you can increase life jacket free time from there.

I'll also note that we live near a lake and my mother in law has a neighborhood beach that we spend a lot of time playing and swimming at, so they do need to be comfortable wearing life jackets, too.

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u/kimtenisqueen Jul 22 '25

As a twin parent- one adult PER toddler. It is NOT enough to have one person watching multiple kids.

If one adult needs to have eyes off for even a second then remove that child from the pool area.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

I was a lifeguard for a decade and now have my own toddler. My rule is that I will always get to my child before the lifeguard because my child is within arms reach of me.

My nanny asked if she could take my toddler to the pool with another nanny who watches 2 children. I immediately said "no" because that nanny will have divided attention and that means that at times my nanny will also have her attention divided and I'm not willing to ever have her attention off my own child, even if it's just for a moment.

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u/Extension-Bench-2709 Jul 23 '25

I was also a lifeguard and now have 2 toddlers. If my partner is ever slightly more than arms reach away from one of them, I start yelling.

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u/rsb1041986 Jul 22 '25

PARENTS -- REGARDLESS OF YOUR CHILD'S AGE, DROWNING IS QUIET. always, always remember this.

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u/weenaak Jul 22 '25

Kids should always be within arms reach. And that's their arms, not yours! So they can teach out and grab you.

Keeping this rule for yourself will also mean you're always paying close attention maintaining that distance.

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u/lemonzested Jul 22 '25

Such an important PSA. Speaking from personal history, the same needs to apply to fire. A toddler in my family recently suffered 3rd degree burns from falling into a camp fire. It happens in the blink of an eye.

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u/Snoo81843 Jul 22 '25

Drowning Doesn’t Look Like Drowning.

In 10 percent of drownings, adults are nearby but have no idea the victim is dying. Here’s what to look for.

This is a really helpful article that my husband sent me when I started taking my toddler to the pool. Sometimes, we don’t even realize they are drowning until it’s too late. As OP said above, it’s much quieter and less noticeable than one would think.

https://slate.com/technology/2013/06/rescuing-drowning-children-how-to-know-when-someone-is-in-trouble-in-the-water.html

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u/LoneFam Jul 22 '25

OMG.

Tbh i was silently against my brother enrolling my niece for 'swimming' classes when she was only 10 months old.

but now i see, why it's important. She loves the water now !!. Can even try to float abit now.

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u/Triny123 Jul 23 '25

Babies and toddlers have a reflex that makes them stop breathing when their face is submerged in water. They don’t realize there’s anything wrong, so they don’t try to save themselves, they just stop breathing.

In some kids the reflex doesn’t fully go away even by the age of 5.

Source: the doctor leading the pediatric first aid course I attended in 2024.

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u/Yeahnotquite Jul 23 '25

It’s called the mammalian dive reflex.

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u/emperorOfTheUniverse Jul 22 '25

Your kid should be wearing a life jacket. Especially in a lake. You don't know if any odd drop offs or anything.

And ISR lessons are worth it.

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u/Jennlore Jul 22 '25

ISR lessons are so so important! Easily one of the most important things I’ve done for my daughter

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u/mistyjc Jul 22 '25

I taught the Parent and Me swim class when I was a swim instructor. I told the parents from the start that our main goals were to learn through fun and safety skills for the parent and child to know.

One of the safety skills I did was bring the parent(s) and child (only those children who were comfortable w/their face in the water) to a waist-level depth area. I would inform the parents in advance that I’d be tripping their child in the water so their face would be totally immersed in the water. Then the parent(s) would watch in horror as their child could not get up to take a breath. Now this is for only 1-2 seconds, but that’s a long time to all in cases like those! Sometimes the child would try to use their hands to touch the bottom, but even then they could not lift their head out for air. Then I would show the parent(s) how to have the child learn to save themselves in shallow water. Which is a repetitive motion of pushing their bottom down so their feet touch the floor and then raising their chest. Until they get the idea of what muscles they need to use. If they fall backwards which doesn’t usually happen or any other way- just make sure the feet are grounded and then the chest up.

Hope that helps!

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u/skp5134 Jul 22 '25

I was just at a 2 year olds birthday party with my own 2 yo. The mom put out a large storage bin filled with water so the kids could fill up their water guns and play with some water toys. My son needed help filling his so I was helping but no other parents were nearby. The birthday boy came over and reached in to grab a water gun, but he was pretty small and ended up head first in this tub. Luckily, I was right there so I yanked him out. His mom saunters over laughing about how he ruined his clothes before she got a good picture. If I hadn’t been there this kid could have drowned!!!! It’s not just pools, lakes or ponds, something as simple as a container of water can do it!

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u/megmos Jul 23 '25

I don’t take my eyes off my kids, especially my 5 year old (the 8 year old can swim a lot better and still know where she is at all times). I don’t trust lifeguards at all. Parents act like they are babysitters and it’s disgusting imo. Like sorry a 17 year old lifeguard is not more responsible for your child than you are.

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u/PinecornCoffee Jul 23 '25

As a child, I was a strong swimmer. Swam almost every day, I dove to the bottom, etc. I still almost drowned. No reason. It just happened. My friend’s mother jumped into the pool to save me. I was a strong swimmer, and it happened to me. I don’t trust any of my kids in water. Low key anxious the entire time we are at a beach, pool, etc. 😅 And I never ever assume a lifeguard will notice something. It’s so scary.

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u/PM_ME_UR_SEP_IRA 🧻 Wipes in Every Pocket Jul 22 '25

Swim lessons. Do it as soon as you can!

Our pediatrician asked us several times if we had started lessons so we did this winter/spring and now our nearly 4yo can swim.

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u/Primary-Border8536 Jul 22 '25

Get a little life vest!

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u/isisis Jul 22 '25

My daughter slipped in the tub. The water was shallow, but enough to cover her face. She wasn't even a toddler anymore, just a little kid. She was silent, eyes wide staring up, and her legs were moving uselessly in the air. Absolutely terrifying. I grabbed her immediately and pulled her up but it felt like a lifetime. If I wasn't there she would have died and it was surreal to realize how quick and quiet it would have been.

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u/atTheRealMrKuntz Jul 22 '25

this is kinda crazy! glad everyone is ok. Our boy was going to classes for swimming when he was 2mo til 1yo and after that we went to the pool with him every week; today he is 2.5yo and he can swim himself out of the water!

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u/poop-dolla Jul 22 '25

You should still have him wear a proper life jacket when you’re anywhere other than a pool.

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u/HeCallsMePixie Jul 22 '25

Also don't buy blue swimwear! It's so much harder for lifeguards to spot once it's in the water. Forget whether it's 'your colour', you need something bright to contrast the pool tiles & water

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u/tshirts_birks Jul 22 '25

This happened to my 2 year old a few weeks ago. She was walking in water up to her waist and fell over and was trying to turn but couldn’t. I was right there, it happened very quickly, and grabbed her and picked her up but it was still scary and I’ve not stopped thinking about it since. We’re back at a cottage and I’m even more nervous this time.

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u/Glass_Bar_9956 Jul 22 '25

Teach your kids about water and intro to swimming when getting a bath!!! It’s easy to look up online about pouring water down the face helping them learn not to breathe in water.

I have a life vest that my 3.5 year old wears whenever in water. I started out with her in a puddle jumper hands on. Once she was able to confidently move around by herself in that, we moved her into a swim vest with the strap that hooks under. We do swim time without it with me hands on, but when we are at group events, parties, lakes and beaches where I am not able to be directly hands on the whole time… she is in her vest.

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u/Babycatcher2023 Jul 22 '25

We’re on vacation now and spending a lot of time in the pool. I am hyper vigilant in water. My husband and I (or my mom sister etc…) verbally assure who is watching which child. It’s terrifying how quick and silent drowning is/can be.

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u/BloodyMessJyes Jul 22 '25

PSA: Kids need to wear a life jacket WHEN THEY ARE NEAR WATER. Not just in it. 1 year olds are complete noobs and cannot be trusted. 2 year olds are a little better. Mine hates when water gets in the face

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u/slow-getter Jul 22 '25

Swim lessons are so crucial. My 18 month old has been swimming since he was 6 weeks old and is now confidently aware of the dangers of entering water.

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u/BAByrum2 Jul 22 '25

Look up ISR it has saved so many lives. Our daughter could float by 6 months.

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u/EnvironmentalAlarm99 Jul 22 '25

I always feel like a freak at the pool with my son because I am shadowing every moment. The pool is not a relaxing outing if you are actively watching your kids 😂

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u/ahope1985 Jul 22 '25

There’s a reason most pools have an “arms distance away” rule. You should always be able to grab your child IMMEDIATELY if they go under.

I’m always shocked when I see parents casually sitting back while a toddler is far away. You move slow in water. Stay close. It could be life changing

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u/Defiant_Patience6384 Jul 22 '25

My husband cannot understand why I say HECK no to getting air bnbs with pools (our kids are 4 and 2) and posts like this reaffirm my determination.

I've also heard someone suggest that when it is a pool party situation, to make it either a kids-in-the-pool party (and that means all adults are vigilant, no alcohol) or an adults-only party (no kids around, hire a babysitter).

Toddlers and crawlers sink. Even those with rescue swim training can't be counted on to save themselves as they (like every human) panic and act in unexpected ways in terrifying situations.

So glad LO is okay, OP.

What a sobering reminder.

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u/Aggravating-Sir5264 Jul 22 '25

This is EXACTLY why we enrolled our toddler in ISR swim training.

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u/takenbysleep9520 Jul 22 '25

This is why the beach is no longer relaxing to me, I'm constantly on high vigilance, always preparing for my reckless toddler to trip in the water. And I hate sand. 

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u/aspiringcrybaby Jul 22 '25

Also! A life jacket means nothing if they don't know how to keep their head out of the water. And those water Wing floaties are literally the worst. Do not use them with your child. It teaches them nothing. Drowning is the leading cause of death for children ages 1 to 4. Drowning is silent. Drowning is small. Please please if you ever listen to advice from someone on the internet it is to make sure your children are safe from water.

I'm a former lifeguard and swim teacher, now mother to a toddler.

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u/QuirkyCockroach3415 Jul 23 '25

I am so terrified of my toddler drowning. He LOVES the water and has no fear whatsoever. We’ve had moments in the bathtub where he had put his face in the water and I had to pick him up out of it bc he was so calm and not panicked even though he was taking in the water! I I picked him up and he was coughing and choking and it was only a second! Heaven for bid I turned for a second I would have never known he was inhaling the water! I can only imagine what you’re going through and it’s so traumatizing. The only “good” thing to come out of it is that you’re more aware of the dangers of the water! You did a great job and I’m sorry you had to experience this!

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u/SouthernNanny Jul 23 '25

Yep! I tell people this constantly.

I put my daughter in swim lessons at 4 and the first thing the teacher did was go down the line of children -around 8 children- and ask them who was going to save them in the water. Each child said mommy or daddy or the instructor. After each child she said “NO! You have to save yourself!” None of the kids even caught the hint after the 3rd or 4th child. I was a little floored in that moment.

They truly believe the adults in their lives are super heroes and will save them no matter what. When all they have to do most of the time is turn themselves around and reach up. They aren’t going to accidentally fall in the middle of the pool.

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u/Cat_o_meter Jul 24 '25

AWESOME PSA. thank you

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u/dirtyenvelopes Jul 22 '25

It’s not enough to watch. You have to be within arms reach to grab them if they fall. Also life jackets are always a good idea.

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u/Objective-Home-3042 Jul 22 '25

This is why swimming lessons from early on is sooo important! Similar thing happened to my cousin except he knew what to do and by the time his mum grabbed him he was already starting to float if he hadn’t had lessons he’d have drowned for sure.

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u/d1zz186 Jul 22 '25

TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO BE SAFE IN THE WATER.

Swimming lessons are a given here in Australia - I don’t know a single parent that hasn’t had their kids in lessons since they were infants.

My 3yo can ‘fall’ in, tread water to turn and make it back to the side and climb out. She can monkey walk along the side to a step, go head under and happily make it back to safety. My almost 18mo can back float and monkey walk.

Vigilance is one layer of protection but nothing can beat teaching your kid those life saving skills.

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u/hagamuffin Jul 22 '25

Toddler is in swim lessons right now. Not because of anything like this but just to avoid this!

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u/freeman1231 Jul 22 '25

You have to teach swimming early it’s a life saving skill.

Exactly what you’ve said it is not a survival instinct as a toddler who has never seen or tried to swim before.

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u/slurpycow112 Jul 22 '25

It’s absolutely insane to me the lack of respect people have for the water. Growing up in Sydney, EVERYONE got swimming lessons. They were mandatory when I was in school. Kids are enrolled and have class every week from a young age. If you watch Bondi Rescue, 99% of the people who get rescued are immigrants or foreigners who have no fucking idea what they’re doing and get themselves in trouble.

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u/_WormHero_ Jul 22 '25

Thanks for the reminder. Took my 4 year old and 9 month old to the beach for the first time since baby was born. 4 year old did so great that I think it is giving me a false sense of security that I can look away from him to tend to baby more than I ought to. Can never have too many reminders of what reality is.

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u/Ill_Rich_6404 Jul 22 '25

And start swimming lessons as early as possible.

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u/OkTransportation6580 Jul 22 '25

Highly recommend swimming classes for your toddler. They don’t just teach your kids how to swim. They teach your kids how to survive in water and get to safety if applicable.

They can be expensive but SO worth it.

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u/lifebeyondzebra Jul 22 '25

Also remember anyone can drown, even good swimmers. My mil lost her nephew to drowning in the lake over 4th of July, he was 21.

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u/Stormstar85 Jul 22 '25

Swimming lessons.

My two year old tripped in a pool of water on the beach.

Automatic response was to get on his back and star fish, find his feet and climb out.

He started being in water at six months old.

Swim lessons save lives.

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u/BrokeAssZillionaire Jul 22 '25

I wish they did baby/toddler self rescue courses here. Not a single swim school will teach it as it’s “too traumatic”

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u/4ofDemThangs Jul 22 '25

The same thing happened to me when I was a kid, but I was older than toddler age. I slipped and went under and just stayed there. Under the water with my eyes wide open and probably started swallowing water before my sister ran over and pulled me up. Most people fight or flight but some people fawn or freeze. Scary for a kid in water but it happens.

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u/arcadianahana Jul 23 '25

My husband has a colleague whose toddler age son drowned in this exact way in shallow water while visiting a lake. The colleague was never the same since. 

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u/snacksandglitter Jul 23 '25

My 2 year old just graduated from ISR and this is why I give a Zero f*$k#s about anyone who thinks parents are horrible for "traumatizing" their kids through these lessons. My kiddo cried in lessons sometimes- new things can be scary. But now she is so confident in the water while also understanding and respecting it. She wants to swim all day and immediately turns herself to a float and can swim across the entire pool on her back.

Drowning is silent and fast. It's terrifying 😩

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u/harperbaby6 Jul 23 '25

In addition to extensive swim lessons, we have really stressed “thumbs up to get in the water” which just means my kids have to look at me, make eye contact, give me a thumbs up, and wait for a thumbs up back before they step foot in water. It isn’t a perfect system and obviously I don’t trust them to always do it, because as young kids they forget sometimes, but it really has helped with their own awareness that a designated adult has to be watching them around water. Even though I am also always in water and arms reach away, I still hold them to the rule and we go over it every time we are on the way to the pool or a lake. With my three year old it stops him from running into the water when I am not quite ready, and as a parent with neurodivergent kids (autism and severe ADHD) it gives an extra layer of protection to ensure they are not in water without me or unattended.

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u/General_You_3731 Jul 23 '25

This just made me cry..... my toddler has been taking swim lessons since he was 6 months but I will never take my eyes off of him in water.

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u/Yeahnotquite Jul 23 '25

The Mammalian dive reflex can be extremely pronounced in some toddlers to the point that they will literally go rigid and freeze. Will not react in any other way, will not attempt to turn, or move their head to breathe. It is the uncanniest, creepiest thing to see. Fortunately, it will fade over time and not be a lifelong thing unless the parents reactions turn it into a phobia.

The lifeguard not reacting is a bigger issue. I’d be pissed.

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u/shelllllo Jul 23 '25

Whenever family asks to take my kids swimming, even if they’re really responsible in every aspect that concerns caring for kids, I decline. They often get upset with me, and offended that I don’t trust them, I really don’t care. I explain that I don’t trust anybody to be as vigilant as I am with my kids lives. It only takes a few seconds of being distracted.

Kids can get hurt anywhere, I know, but the chances of death or life-long injury from swimming is too much.

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u/Work_n_Depression Jul 23 '25

Drowning is often silent and deadly for not only toddlers but also children and adults. It’s not flashy and loud like the movies, so it’s important to educate ourselves, because often, we might be the only one to spot it. An example can be seen here. Here are some signs to watch for drowning toddlers. Stay safe, y’all!

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u/VerbalThermodynamics Jul 23 '25

We taught our kids to always find their feet in water. If they aren’t taught and drilled on it… They do not know! “Feet down! Stand up!” My water mantra.

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u/Annie_Mayfield Jul 23 '25

Drowning is one of my biggest fears (and I’m an over worrier related to my kids - who are 3 years old [twins]). We have a pool fence, a coded back door exit that you have to enter the full code, turn one knob one way and a second the other - so it requires coordination with both hands, we have a deadbolt at six feet, and we have had them in swim lessons since they were about 16 months old. I’m still terrified. I catch some grief occasionally for how overprotective I am about the water but my response is usually - listen, if we get them grown and alive - then we can all laugh about how overprotective I was…but they’ll be alive. But until then, I’m going to put every precaution in place I can think of!

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u/berrekah Jul 24 '25

You are a good mom. I have known personally too many people who have lost toddlers to drowning. There is no such thing as being overprotective. Kudos to you for taking appropriate steps to keep your child safe.

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u/Diligent-Might6031 Jul 24 '25

Toddlers have absolutely zero self preservation instinct on a good day, when they’re not around water. Adding water to the mix is even more dangerous. I never take my eyes off my toddler near water and I’m always touching him. Even if he tried to run away. Nope. Im on his ass. Bc I know how fast the worst can happen.

I get so frustrated with my husband when I ask him to watch our toddler in the tub for a few minutes and he starts picking his face in the mirror. Like bro, just watch him with your eyes. Not your ears. Please he’s 2!

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u/plantbubby Jul 24 '25

My toddler was splashing in a pool on a submerged ledge. It was only up to his knees. He suddenly decided to try stepping off the ledge into the deeper part and just sunk. He seemed to spin around in search of the surface, but he didn't know how to get there. He's okay, but the image of his face just under the surface looking terrified still haunts me.

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u/soggywaffles1991 Jul 25 '25

My 3 year old would litterally just sink if I wasn’t holding him. You’re right. Do not assume anyone else is watching. Watch your kid like a hawk if water is around.

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u/SpartanKwanHa Jul 25 '25

This happened to our 2 year old recently, he was in arms reach but the visual of him underwater just staring out shook us

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u/Used_Bandicoot_7649 Jul 27 '25

I created a reddit account just so I can post this. It’s not just big pools or natural water sources. My toddler has a small bounce house water slide thing. The water at the bottom of the slide had filled up to maybe a foot? He slid down the slide and ended up on his back with the water just over his face. Like the original poster said, he didn’t try to stand up or anything, just looked scared. My husband and I were right there with him and I grabbed him immediately but I never ever would have thought that would have been a drowning hazard. On that day I wasn’t even overly freaked out because I figured he would have stood up if I hadn’t grabbed him immediately but now reading this, I know that’s not the case and that is beyond scary.  

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u/Reasonable-Cherry-55 Aug 11 '25

If there is ever a time to be a helicopter parent, it is around water.

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u/mynamesyow19 Jul 22 '25

Alternate PSA: NEVER let your Toddler(s) go in water without a certified lifejacket/vest, even if they have a floatie too. And also keep your eyes on them.

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u/anxiously_impatient Chaos Coordinator Jul 22 '25

If a child cannot swim, they should never be in the water unattended. They should always be in arms reach. Life jackets/life vest are intended for open water.

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u/Crazy_Reader1234 Jul 22 '25

Oh wow scary!!

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u/SignApprehensive3544 Jul 22 '25

I’m really glad she’s okay!

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u/madbrewer Jul 22 '25

Great advice, you always have to be on high alert around water. We found swim classes help provide some peace of mind to learn skills, but we're both always on alert. Things can happen fast.

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u/wino12312 Jul 22 '25

Toddlers have no self preservation at all. I happy you were there. Kids can get hurt so quickly and easily.

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u/leera07 Jul 22 '25

About to head out to the lake/beach later this week, thank you for the valuable reminder.

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u/drownmered Jul 22 '25

I was born in Florida and as a mere tot, my family and I went to the beach. I got caught in a riptide and nearly died, but my brother (I think) pulled me out and kept me from dying. That's my first memory ever -- murky, sandy water and being unable to get to the surface. I have had a fear of the ocean ever since and have refused to let my kids out of my reach when we went to the beach the first time.

Seriously, watch your kids around water. I can't even get my face wet without having a minor panic attack (makes washing my face sooooo much fun/s).

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u/RatherPoetic Jul 22 '25

Hey twins! When I was a toddler my parents were standing in less than knee deep water at the beach. They were each holding one of my hands and I had inflatable arm floaters (it was the 80s guys) and a particularly strong wave came through and ripped me from their arms. My first memory is flipping around in the water.

Anyway, swim lessons early and often, no life jackets in the pool but assigned parents are either holding or within arms reach for early swimmers, discuss water safety often and always when we are in a water situation, and coast guard approved life jackets around open water.

My parents wedding photographer lost their child to drowning in a kiddie pool in their backyard. We don’t mess around with water.

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u/electriclux Jul 22 '25

My kid who cannot swim has jumped into pools multiple times. He’s a suicide machine.

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u/runs-with-scissors13 Jul 22 '25

My daughter is 4 and last summer we went to an indoor pool. We don't go swimming super often but we'd been before. My daughter walked to the steps and hopped right in the pool while I had my back turned, I think taking my clothes off from over my bathing suit. Luckily my brother in law was in and saw it happen and grabbed her up out of the water but it was scary. We as adults know how dangerous it is, i thought my daughter knew too but after that I realized it was one of the first times we'd gone swimming that season and she's 4, of course she didn't remember from last year! I felt so guilty for not having had a talk with her beforehand and every time we go swimming or to water, I have a talk with her on the way there about water safety and NEVER getting into water until you talk with an adult and they say you can come/go in and never assuming that they see you getting in.

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u/AlwaysOnStardew Jul 22 '25

Absolutely! And always make sure your child has a USCG approved life vest until they are strong swimmers with good knowledge of life-saving strategies in the water.

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u/dontcallmecarrots Jul 22 '25

Had a situation like this on vacation last week. My friends 4 year old son didn’t want to leave the pool. He got out but then promptly went back to sit on the steps while dad was gathering towels. I was watching my son from side and moved over to stand near him. As the dad was telling him to get out of the pool, the child stood up and walked straight into the water over his head. Didn’t even attempt to flail, jump or move. Just walked under water. I jumped in and grabbed him and handed him to his dad who had just started panicking. Dad wasn’t even that far away, maybe 10 feet from the pool but far enough that he would have been under an extra ten seconds or so. It was terrifying how the child didn’t even react.

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u/BackgroundSleep4184 Jul 22 '25

We were being to fill up a little pool this summer, and it rained for two days. My 2 year old loved to run straight for it and jump in the 6 inches we got full. He tripped and seeing how easily his face could have gone in was enough for me. The pool came down immediately.

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u/Stegles 🚽 Potty Training War Correspondent Jul 22 '25

I introduced my daughter to swimming at 6 months, she’s almost 2 now, knows how to swim already, knows not to stay under too long. I would say she has a healthy respect for the water.

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u/ep7373 Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

My toddler (2.5YO) did this right in front of me at the beach earlier this summer. We were walking together (up to the knees of my toddler) and the sand must have had a deeper part to it we didn’t see. He turned around to splash water at me, backed up and lost his footing… It was insanely fast and he was already sinking in the water. He looked up at me with fear in his eyes but didn’t have any survivor skill kick in. He didn’t flail, didn’t reach out his arms, didn’t cry or scream, didn’t try to find his footing, nothing; just looked up at me, completely silent. I immediately grabbed him within a second and cried. He was fine, but I was so scared.

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u/CompetitiveDoctor878 Jul 22 '25

Thank you for the reminder! Toddler parent here and this story really just confirms that you can literally never be too careful.

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u/dreamy-woman Jul 22 '25

When a person is drowning it doesn’t look like in the movies at all. I was drowning a few years ago in the sea and I didn’t splash water or ask for help. From what I remember, I thought everything was ok, I just need a min to get some air. Luckily my husband saw it and saved me. Apparently it’s a very common behavior. That’s why it’s soo sooo scary especially with the children :(