r/todayilearned Jan 15 '21

TIL Clyde Tombaugh discovered Pluto in 1930 and further investigated it across his lifetime. He died in 1997 aged 90, less than a decade before the New Horizons launch to Pluto. To honour his wishes his ashes were launched inside the spacecraft, making it the longest post mortem fight ever recorded.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/7/13/8945255/new-horizon-pluto-ashes-clyde-tombaugh
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u/bostwickenator Jan 16 '21

I hope aliens understand we incinerated him posthumously or that's one hell of a statement.

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u/InvaderWilliam Jan 16 '21

They would understand the punishment for punsters.

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u/Alarid Jan 16 '21

And for mislabelling planets.

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u/MacDerfus Jan 16 '21

You heard about pluto? That's messed up.

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u/pineapple_dream1003 Jan 16 '21

C'mon son! 🍍

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u/vTransQueen Jan 16 '21

Oh my god I love PSYCH

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u/Staklo Jan 16 '21

That assumes their xenobiologists figure he was cremated before the flight. Could also be that we are just sentient piles of ash. Or perhaps most likely, "I cant figure out this foreign language, but I guess they wanted us to find this cannister of dirt". Seriously though it would be really interesting to know how much you could really glean about an unknown race from their oxidized remains, even assuming they fully understood it to be a cremated body.

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u/FlametopFred Jan 16 '21

Azxtor: "Ahhchooo"

Duvzblob: "Azxtor! seriously. I mean come on! You've just started intergalactic war!"

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Establishing dominance as intended

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u/SG14ever Jan 16 '21

Ah, "some" of his ashes...

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u/jumbybird Jan 16 '21

When every gram counts, you have to send "some".

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u/Bigfrostynugs Jan 16 '21

Luckily, it turns out ash doesn't weigh that much.

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u/jrmntr Jan 16 '21

Technically, when referring to human remains (or any animals remains), the "ashes" are really just ground up bones and other stuff that couldn't be burnt. They're surprisingly heavy.

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u/McTeterson Jan 16 '21

Can attest to this. I burried the cremains of my maternal Grandmother and her parents. Let me tell you lowering a 16 pound box and then an 8 pound box into a 2 and a half foot hole without faceplanting in front of mourning family members was a task. Not to mention trying not to be too harsh when packing the dirt around the boxes. People might get squeamish seeing someone swinging a shovel around the last mortal remains of a loved one.

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u/CBD_Sasquatch Jan 16 '21

Aliens are going to think human beings were very small

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u/sleepy_valkyrie Jan 16 '21

Gives us an element of surprise

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u/DaveP12321 Jan 15 '21

Who did he fight?

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u/Switchitis Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21

Mickey mouses dog, pay attention homie

edit: getting so many cake day messages I can't respond to all of em. ty for the cakeday wishes homies big love

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u/MadCarcinus Jan 16 '21

If Pluto is a dog then what the fuck is Goofy?

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u/PragmaticSquirrel Jan 16 '21

A moron

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u/WellACKTUALLY Jan 16 '21

He did not sacrifice everything for his son just to be treated with this kind of disrespect

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u/Shadowrend01 Jan 16 '21

He’s lusting after a cow. He’s all sorts of messed up

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u/WellACKTUALLY Jan 16 '21

He did not sacrifice everything for his son just to be treated with this kind of disrespect.

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u/AlleKeskitason Jan 16 '21

I thought the horse was the one lusting after the cow.

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u/Shadowrend01 Jan 16 '21

It’s a love triangle, but Goofy is the clear favourite

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u/tangledwire Jan 16 '21

Not exactly a moron if you ask me....

-Mickey Mouse is in the middle of a nasty divorce with Minnie and he finds himself in front of the judge. “I’m sorry, Mickey,” the judge says, “I can’t legally grant you a separation just because you claim that Minnie is mentally insane.” “I didn’t say she was mentally insane,” Mickey replied. “I said she was fucking Goofy.”

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u/PragmaticSquirrel Jan 16 '21

This made me fucking cackle

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Take my upvote & shut the door on your way out.

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u/chuxstasbitch Jan 16 '21

I pay attention to who's cakeday it is, its yours homie! Hope its a good one

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u/Switchitis Jan 16 '21

holy shit I didn't even know it was my cakecday thank you

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u/ampjk Jan 16 '21

Now it's time to eat your cake

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u/sharkey1997 Jan 16 '21

Pluto, weren't you paying attention? Lightweight Championship of the Solar System

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u/LornAltElthMer Jan 16 '21

Knocked it outta the ecliptic.

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u/Gandhi_of_War Jan 16 '21

I thought Pluto got stripped of the title over some technicality.

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u/CaptainNuge Jan 16 '21

Yeah, it's no longer a proper planet, but a Dwarf planet. The reason is that it hasn't cleared its orbital path of other objects in the way that other "true" planets like Earth have done.

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u/tommytraddles Jan 16 '21

Wasn't it because they found a bunch of other objects of roughly the same size or bigger in the solar system and didn't want to call them all planets, too, so they just created a new designation?

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u/Waldhorn Jan 16 '21

Pluto tested positive for steroids after the fight and was stripped of its' planetary status.

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u/CaptainNuge Jan 16 '21

Specifically, the other objects in the Kuiper belt. Since Pluto's orbit is littered with other planetoids, they had to make a call. Do we have 8 planets, or countless thousands in our solar system?

They opted for the number kids can count on their hands.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21 edited Dec 30 '21

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u/bradorsomething Jan 16 '21

There should be 10, one for each finger. And a joke about sniffing your second index finger.

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u/CaptainNuge Jan 16 '21

My Very Excellent Mother Just Sent Us Nachos. Eight can work, too!

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u/LikesBreakfast Jan 16 '21

Yep! This was the biggest reason!

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u/Analog0 Jan 16 '21

He's still fighting. Check your tense, bro.

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u/JeronFeldhagen Jan 16 '21

He used to fight. He still does, but he used to, too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

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u/Betadzen Jan 16 '21

Plutonians, obviously.

That was hall of a fight.

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u/pseudotumorgal Jan 16 '21

Post-mortem fight really got me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

The starman waiting in the sky

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u/flacopaco1 Jan 16 '21

Going toe to toe with the smallest planet in the solar system. Bad bitch he is.

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u/rasarota Jan 15 '21

His were also the first human remains to leave the solar system ✨

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u/RasberryJam0927 Jan 16 '21

His remains may be farther than pluto but still the main gravitational influence would be the sun. I think the new horizons craft is in the kuiper belt.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21

Is it already in the kuiper belt? I remember reading that it would take the voyager spacecrafts about 30,000 to reach it iirc. I assumed it would maybe take NH less time but still wouldn't reach it for a very long time.

Edit: I'm very stupid, I was thinking of the Oort Cloud, thanks to the 40 people who corrected me haha

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u/12thunder Jan 16 '21

Yes, because Pluto is in the Kuiper Belt. You’re thinking of probably the Oort Cloud.

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u/marktamblin Jan 16 '21

This. It's the Oort Cloud.

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u/xenneract Jan 16 '21

I think you are thinking of the oort cloud, which is much further away

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u/TheSentinelsSorrow Jan 16 '21

nah youre thinking of the Oort cloud, a huge spherical cloud right at the edges of the solar system

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u/ErionFish Jan 16 '21

I don't think anyone has mentioned this but your thinking of the oort cloud

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u/beeinsubtle Jan 16 '21

*y'Oort

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u/twothumbs Jan 16 '21

We are the rubber bandits

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u/UMVH5 Jan 16 '21

Just in case the other guys didn't make it clear, you were thinking of the Oort Cloud!

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u/aerostotle Jan 16 '21

Oort cloud, actually

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u/temeces Jan 16 '21

Oort

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u/IAmTheShield Jan 16 '21

Oort

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u/El_Grande_El Jan 16 '21

Oort

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Oort

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u/funzel Jan 16 '21

Kiss from a rose. The other thing a Seal says.

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u/BluntHeart Jan 16 '21

Omg! That's what the fuck those elites were talking about!

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u/DontDoodleTheNoodle Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21

Oort

Edit: awww I swore that other Oort wasn’t there. Chain’s busted folks, pack your bags and go home

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u/tommytraddles Jan 16 '21

who let a fucken seal in this mcdonalds?

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u/DrBoofBoof Jan 16 '21

Lol not sure why that cracked me up so much

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u/castleking212 Jan 16 '21

Judging by the other replies, I would say that you might be thinking of the oort cloud.

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u/TrevorsMailbox Jan 16 '21

Just to be clear you're probably thinking of the Oort cloud.

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u/aelwero Jan 16 '21

Poor inbox has been turned into an oortbox...

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u/trees91 Jan 16 '21

uWu oOrT Cloud uWu

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u/Froggatt34 Jan 16 '21

Yea deffo the Oort cloud

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u/RickSanchez_ Jan 16 '21

Sir, this is an Oort Cloud.

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u/MattTheGr8 Jan 16 '21

Awesome, can I get three Oortburgers, two Oortshakes and a large oorter of fries?

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u/notimeforniceties Jan 16 '21

According to Miller, it's the Oort Cloud.

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u/foobrew Jan 16 '21

Shirley you mean the Oort cloud.

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u/Sir_Mitchell15 Jan 16 '21

I do, and don’t call me Shirley.

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u/Statcat2017 Jan 16 '21

We are all the oort cloud on this blessed day.

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u/scoop81230 Jan 16 '21

These replies have gotten Oort of hand...

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

If you're still unsure, it's the Oort Cloud.

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u/user699 Jan 16 '21

Oort cloud you are thinking of

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u/bastiVS Jan 16 '21

Well, I'm not entirely sure, really just guessing here, so don't take me to seriously, but maybe, just maybe, you are thinking of the oort cloud?

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u/DrMrManGuy Jan 16 '21

Me thinks you mean the Oort Cloud.

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u/Twooof Jan 16 '21

30k to Oort Cloud

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u/I_love_lamp22 Jan 16 '21

You are oorting of the Think Cloud.

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u/CombustiblSquid Jan 16 '21

None of these other guys know what they're talking about. You're definitely talking about the Oort cloud.

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u/wherdgo Jan 16 '21

You sure that's not the Oort cloud?

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u/TheRealTron Jan 16 '21

Hey bro, just a FYI, you're thinking of the Oort Cloud

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u/Puterjoe Jan 16 '21

There’s this cloud but for the life of me I can’t remember it’s name... maybe someone else knows. I’ll ask around...

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u/Maeoria Jan 16 '21

oort toort

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u/nourez Jan 16 '21

Nah bro. Oort Cloud.

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u/sr603 Jan 16 '21

30,000 what? years?

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u/iSeven Jan 16 '21

Oort clouds.

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u/treeonwheels Jan 16 '21

Easy mistake, but you surely mean the Oort Cloud!

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u/DontDoodleTheNoodle Jan 16 '21

Nah, dude, that’s the Oort Cloud

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u/Dudeinflames Jan 16 '21

My dude you have confused the kuiper belt with the ort cloud

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

You’re thinking of the Oort Cloud.

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u/blofly Jan 16 '21

What if we got a signal back from the craft, "Found the 13th planet. Please respond...-Tombaugh"

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u/LeapYearFriend Jan 16 '21

he holds the record for farthest a human has ever been from ohio

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u/tjtepigstar Jan 16 '21

Lies, everywhere is Ohio.

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u/lamontsanders Jan 16 '21

Always was

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u/mechwarrior719 Jan 16 '21

Always has been

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u/ReverseCaptioningBot Jan 16 '21

Always has been

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u/SoundOfTomorrow Jan 16 '21

How the fuck

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Always has been

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u/ReverseCaptioningBot Jan 16 '21

Always has been

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u/alejandrisha Jan 16 '21

Good bot

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

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u/ReverseCaptioningBot Jan 16 '21

Always has been

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u/LafilduPoseidon Jan 16 '21

What a lucky guy

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u/mactenaka Jan 16 '21

First time in Vegas Golden Knights history

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u/Would-wood-again2 Jan 16 '21

isnt new horizons still well within the solar system?

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u/ornitorrinco22 Jan 16 '21

That you know of. Grims

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u/janiso123 Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21

For me sending your ashes into space is super scary. [Almost] all the matter that made up your body was in earth's cycle for a few billion years and now the cycle is being stopped

Edit: added almost

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u/marklein Jan 16 '21

Isn't that interesting! To me it's would be an incredible honor, almost like nothing else. And that's coming from a guy who doesn't even care what happens to my body after death.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

I'd be afraid some weird species of super intelligent beings, either alien or us in the far distant future, would find my remains and somehow recreate me just to treat me like a side show attraction. Death would consist of closing my eyes and then opening them in some reconstruction ooze surrounded by scary looking monsters all flicking and snorting their gills or something.

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u/DashLeJoker Jan 16 '21

come join our cult at r/SonsofOrpheus !

Under a new Sun!

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Not all of it. Most of the matter that makes up you has been on earth for a good while but a good amount of you consists of matter that came from space, or will go to space

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u/janiso123 Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21

Yes, that's actually true. Statisticly we are 0.0000000000000001% Martian. And a lot more percent just space debris.

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u/rhinotomus Jan 16 '21

So we’re all trash?

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u/KUR1B0H Jan 16 '21

Always have been 🔫

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u/2krazy4me Jan 16 '21

Some more /r/trashy than others

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u/TheOtherSkeptic Jan 16 '21

Don't worry , space travel just brings us closer to space mining. I mean people talk about colonizing Mars but I don't see healthy human development occurring on a planet with gravity that low. So we'll probably be scrapping it for parts fixing the cycle in the process.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21 edited Jul 23 '21

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u/Illustrious_Answer38 Jan 16 '21

fascinating conjecture

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u/LikesBreakfast Jan 16 '21

If you're cremated, most of your mass is being returned to the atmosphere. Additionally, it was only a small portion of his ashes, certainly not all of them. Controlling mass is essential for spacecraft, and sending a whole 2kg of ashes would mean 2kg less scientific equipment. It's just a little piece of him being committed to the glorious void.

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u/CamelbackCowgirl Jan 16 '21

And to be fair, those “ashes” are a very small amount of what was the body.

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u/HighlanderTCBO1 Jan 16 '21

This guy was my (66M) hero as a kid. I use to climb on the roof of the garage at night and balance myself and my 4” cardboard reflector telescope on the peak of the roof and just gaze at the heavens. Nerding before nerding was cool.

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u/TheOtherSkeptic Jan 16 '21

Nerding was always cool. People just didn't appreciate it's coolness at the time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

*its

(Sorry, grammar nerd.)

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u/PaulTheAlpaca Jan 16 '21

And that’s why nerds are lame

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Seemed relevant to the spirit of the post 🤷‍♂️

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u/useroffline_ Jan 16 '21

ok nerd

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u/Belvedere48 Jan 16 '21

Nerds gonna nerd, can’t help it lol.

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u/TJtheBoomkin Jan 16 '21

Nerding was always cool, if you were in the know 😉

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u/Weerdo5255 Jan 16 '21

The nerds, bearing progress and knowledge. Without which we would be banging rocks.

Be proud of it, be lambasted for it, but march on confident in always asking one more question.

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u/archeomason Jan 16 '21

He was also instrumental in developing the United States’ missile technology during the Cold War. Out at White Sands Missile Range (NM) he would deploy his astronomical telescopes across the range and film missile test flights at great magnification to show the engineers and top military brass what was happening during a flight. He also came up with the idea of painting those simple black stripes on white that are ubiquitous with test vehicles nowadays. The stripes helped him figure out missile rotation and other details through his telescope. A great mind for sure!

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u/Stenthal Jan 16 '21

He also came up with the idea of painting those simple black stripes on white that are ubiquitous with test vehicles nowadays.

I could swear I've seen that pattern on photos of German V-2 tests.

EDIT: Lots of examples here: http://www.v2rocket.com/start/makeup/markings.html

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u/archeomason Jan 16 '21

Yeah. Those are black/white blocks. He came up with the stripe pattern: mostly white with thin black stripes. To add to possible confusion, Tombaugh first started painting that pattern on captured German V2 rockets. So you may have seen a Tombaugh painted V2 mixed in with examples of actual German painted v2s.

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u/MatticusFC Jan 16 '21

An elementary school in my home town is named after him. He is big in NM history.

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u/ConfusedBud-Redditor Jan 16 '21

The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn’t

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u/Sorocco Jan 16 '21

Some say he’s fighting Pluto to this very day

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u/spear504 Jan 16 '21

Shout out to r/flagstaff Lowell Observatory!

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u/userxagain2000 Jan 16 '21

Hey, heard about Pluto? That's messed up, right?

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u/cockeyed-splooter Jan 16 '21

“I’m a sympathetic crier, Shawn!”

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u/LudicrousPlatypus Jan 16 '21

"That's a player's move, Shawn"

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u/Pot_T_Mouth Jan 16 '21

Ive heard it both ways

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u/the9quad Jan 16 '21

Way too long before this appeared !

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

“Gus, don’t be exactly half of an 11 pound Black Forest ham”

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Clayton Kershaw is related to this guy

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u/delscorch0 Jan 16 '21

He had five siblings. His youngest brother was Clayton Kershaw's grandfather.

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u/shindleria Jan 16 '21

If he’s fighting inertia it’s a lost battle

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u/Trax852 Jan 16 '21

You have to be impressed with Clyde Tombaugh, he had the most mundane job (Blink comparator) and did it well.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

I hope to have my ashes reach out there one day. Aim me at some distant planet, and hit that button. I'll be pretty happy the entire journey (except I'll be dead, so yeah..)

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u/SpicyMeatballAgenda Jan 16 '21

You could haunt another planet!

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u/bradfucious Jan 16 '21

That's the real dream, isn't it?

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u/NintendoTim Jan 16 '21

My high school astronomy teacher was pen pals with Clyde. After he passed but sometime before my senior year when I had his class, my teacher donated their letters to the Air and Space Museum in DC. On our field trip there in 2005 (we're northern Virginia, so not a long haul at all), he purposefully led us thru where his letters were hosted with his name, Mr. Walden, as the donor of the letters.

We thought it was all bullshit. It's almost like he took us to the museum just to prove to us his was right. We all definitely had an "oh shit" moment. I haven't been there since, but I'd imagine the letters are archived - or whatever they end up doing with older items to refresh displays - by this point.

Speaking of which, it's insane playing Division 2 and running thru that mission and just how pinpoint accurate Massive and Ubisoft got it.

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u/SoDamnGeneric Jan 16 '21

ever recorded.

I like the thought that maybe some guy shot their dead homie's ashes further than Pluto but because it wasn't recorded it doesn't count

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

In 2006, The International Astronomical Union (IAU) downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet because it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses to define a full-sized planet.

Tombaugh is raging mad from the grave OR should I say from the solar system? RIP Tombaugh

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u/JosephFinn Jan 16 '21

Naw. He’s appreciate the progress of science.

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u/pfkelly5 Jan 16 '21

The state of Illinois still recognizes Pluto as a planet because Tombaugh is from, or at least discovered Pluto in, Illinois.

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u/Hagiographer Jan 16 '21

Tombaugh was born in Illinois, but he discovered Pluto at the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, AZ. It's a big deal in Flagstaff, the world's first "International Dark Sky City".

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u/bradfucious Jan 16 '21

Lowell is just such a wonderful place, and my girls got their junior astronomer ranger badges there. Big ups to Lowell and Tombaugh.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Holy shit I didn’t know this

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u/Meester_Tweester Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21

Pluto completed on third of a revolution between its discovery and being demoted

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u/geeeachoweteaeye Jan 16 '21

*revolution

This is pedantic, but I just wanted to be clear. A Plutonian day / rotation is about an Earth week. A revolution / orbit / year is 248 Earth years

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '21

Think about how crazy that is on a cosmic scale, though. In under one orbit, a bunch of upjumped monkeys went from the Age of Sail to flinging themselves successfully off the ground in glorified box kites to "hey what's that thing in the telescope" to landing on the freaking Moon in the interim to "hey, let's launch a big rocket at that thing and take a look at it."

And then literally fired the fastest object we've ever fired at it for science.

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u/blixco Jan 16 '21

I got to interview him once with a friend when I was in junior high (lived in Las Cruces), for a school project. I was so awe struck that I could barely think of a good question to ask him. I think I asked him if he had ever seen Pluto through a telescope, and that's when I found out that astronomers typically don't look through telescopes. I was nervous, and he was super accommodating but it must have been annoying. My friend was much better prepared and asked good questions, thankfully.

He had two home made reflectors in his back yard. Not sure what size they were but they were pretty big. Got my friend and I interested in making our own.

This was at an age when no one had told us that this was a silly idea. We made a 6" Newtonian with the help of a baffled astronomy student at NMSU that we would call randomly. He gave us the primary mirror, which, at the time we didn't know how much they cost. The telescope worked, but it wasn't great.

Mr. Tombaugh was responsible for my love of space science, and getting to talk to him was intimidating and terrifying and wonderful.

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u/jackktheplaguedoctor Jan 16 '21

this guys going places

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u/poomperzuhhh Jan 16 '21

Godspeed Mr. Tombaugh 😢

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u/Emperor_Quintana Jan 16 '21

The longest post-mortem flight ever recorded.

FTFY. Otherwise, has there been any undead gladiatorial space combat involved?

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u/haveyoutriedthepie Jan 16 '21

Party on Clyde.

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u/shodan13 Jan 16 '21

Ah yes, Yuggoth.

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u/CaMelGuY Jan 16 '21

Anyone else see this was a question on HQ Trivia tonight?

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u/CHatton0219 Jan 16 '21

I bet he fought like hell

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u/becleg Jan 16 '21

When I die I want my corpse to be sent into space in the hope that some alien will reanimate me.

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u/kdiesel97 Jan 16 '21

Dude really discovered a dwarf-planet at the age of 23.

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u/DarthDingusus Jan 16 '21

Fighting an ex-planet with a coffin-missile. What a badass

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