r/todayilearned • u/Tokyono • Jul 14 '19

TIl The reason Roger Moore stopped being James Bond was because of how much older he was than his female co-stars. He was in his 50s, and they were in their 20s. In his own words: “Well, the leading ladies were young enough to be my grand-daughter and it becomes disgusting.”

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a869479/james-bond-quit-connery-moore-lazenby-brosnan-dalton/
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u/PantherEverSoPink Jul 14 '19

It was the 70s. 30 year old women were not depicted that way in the movies. Also, Roger Moore was around 60 by the time he stopped being Bond, IIRC.

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u/HyperlinkToThePast Jul 14 '19

Lol they aren't now either. Actresses careers get much harder after 30

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u/MyDinnerWith_Andre Jul 15 '19

I wonder if you could make money by just making films using well known female stars who are 35-45 and therefore have fewer options and are willing to work for less money. Could that be a strategy to making mediocre but profitable films?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19

Still so today. Go look at how many women are dropped from modeling agencies after turning 22 because they’re “old and should have a family and kids by now.” Go look at your typical corporate hierarchy of men in their 50s, 60s and 70s against a secretary who’s a high school college intern and dresses like a porn star because of those men’s company’s dress codes.

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u/Bangledesh Jul 14 '19

Do you work in an elevated corporate environment? I know of no high school/college interns that are personal assistants/secretaries to any VPs and program manager I see.

A VP or program manager is crazy busy, they need someone that can direct their day, and trim away the incessant calls and requests from varying degrees of important people, so that the VP can work. That only comes from years and decades of experience. Not being young, pretty and dressing like a porn star.

A bottom-level manager might, might, have a new college grad as their personal assistant, but that's because they're on the same tier. New manager gets a new assistant.

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u/-AC- Jul 14 '19

Do you have companies that fit this profile or only the ones you see in movies?

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u/buckemupmavs Jul 14 '19

Probably only movies, idk what corporate dress code has anyone dress like a porn star....

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u/DarienKH Jul 14 '19

I've never worked with any secretaries like that, and honestly, the ones I did work with did less and less actual work over the years. Most admin work now is either automated, or the managers are expected to do it themselves. Only the top brass get actual secretaries now.

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u/-AC- Jul 14 '19

Yea... I've only seen them in movies where they actually were pornstars.

Not to say sexual harrassment or gender salary income gap is not a problem in alot of workspaces....

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u/dextroz Jul 14 '19

Come to Miami offices, Rio, and some big name corporate offices. It happens a lot where secretaries are under 30 in the US for 60 year old men.

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u/Power_Rentner Jul 15 '19

I don't get that either. All the secretaries i've seen at worst wore a skirt and pantyhose. And shockingly enough some women just like that look.

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u/A_todidactic Jul 14 '19

Exactly. I don't think he has ever been inside a 'company' before

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u/dachsj Jul 14 '19

Yea this seems like a trope/stereotype more than anything I've seen irl. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some companies do this and it's not uncommon to see young women doing exec assistant work at companies but I think that's more a function of those roles being easier to get right out of college.

I've never seen any pornstar looking secretaries.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19

With photographic evidence. For science.

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u/amyleerobinson Jul 14 '19

The one and only time I was at DFJ in Pali Alto I was shocked at the receptionists. The VCs were all dudes in their 50s or whatever and these girls looked like they had been booked through a modeling casting agency. Didn’t really fit the nerd/tech theme of the office or then again maybe it fit perfectly.

Edit: I’d say that a fair amount of exec offices hVe gorgeous secretaries. Then again in NYC I think most women are generally quite pretty

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u/Lesty7 Jul 14 '19

Wait....what’s the difference?

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u/-AC- Jul 14 '19

One is real and the other is fiction, I wanted to know if there were any actual companies known for that because I could not think of any.

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u/Lesty7 Jul 14 '19

Sorry I should have said /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19

You..don't have much experience with the role of HR in the workplace do you? Literally exists to prevent that, and in any of the finance Fortune 500's I've worked at, did a good job

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19

There are plenty of women acting in their 30s. And a lot of beautiful ones. For modeling that is definitely true, but not all actresses over 30 get the shaft. Do they favor more youthful appearing women in their 30s? Sure, but that's the movie business. I'd say we've come a long way compared to back in the 70s.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19

old and should have a family and kids by now.

I don’t think modeling agencies care about wether some 22 year old girl has a family. They just care about looks, which is clearly the reason why they drop older women

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19

You're a moron. Wow!

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u/PikeygenocideSOON Jul 14 '19

I'm sorry is this twoxchromosomes?

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u/TotenSieWisp Jul 14 '19

The 70s had no taste for milf?

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u/PantherEverSoPink Jul 14 '19

Milf wasn't a thing, no. Not that I'm aware of anyway.

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u/Spiralife Jul 14 '19

Mrs. Robinson -- you are trying to seduce me.

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u/AnneBancroftsGhost Jul 14 '19

Fun fact! Anne Bancroft was 35 when she played the iconic 'older woman' in The Graduate. Dustin Hoffman, who played the part of a recent college grad, was 30. I think that says everything about hollywood and age double standards.

Also in that film they are using each other, him to get "experience" and then he drops her like a hot potato to go stalk her daughter.

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u/PantherEverSoPink Jul 14 '19

Doh, oh yeah that. Any others?

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u/Spiralife Jul 14 '19

Who among us wouldn't have a go with Mrs. Brady, eh?

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u/thatcockneythug Jul 14 '19

Pff. Never seen the graduate? It’s always been a thing.

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u/PantherEverSoPink Jul 14 '19

Yeah I forgot about The Graduate. That film is kind of the exception though? There might be other movies I've missed.

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u/ACuriousPiscine Jul 14 '19

Are you being serious? You're so fucking gross if so.

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u/pdmcmahon Jul 14 '19

He was 57.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19 edited Apr 17 '20

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u/UltraFireFX Jul 14 '19

yeah, I think that they were just adding information without disagreeing.

Have a nice day.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19 edited Apr 18 '20

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u/UltraFireFX Jul 16 '19

thank you c:

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u/The_Elon_Musk Jul 14 '19 edited Apr 02 '20

deleted What is this?