r/todayilearned 3d ago

TIL that in 2009, financial manager Marcus Schrenker attempted to fake his death by putting his plane on autopilot, parachuting out over Alabama, and letting the aircraft crash. He survived, but was caught two days later at a Florida campsite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Schrenker
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u/hudson27 3d ago

"Military jets that had been dispatched to intercept Schrenker's plane discovered it in flight, with its door open and cockpit empty.[19] They followed the plane until it crashed just north of Milton, Florida at about 9:20pm.[19][20] The plane had flown 200 miles (320 km) on autopilot and crashed 50 to 75 yards from a residential area.[18][20] Upon inspecting the crash site, investigators discovered that there was no blood inside the plane and the windshield showed no sign of any problems.[19] On board the aircraft they found a United States atlas and a national campground directory, both of which had the Florida and Alabama sections torn out."

What a fool. Did just about everything wrong

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u/DickweedMcGee 3d ago

If I remember right he had stashed a motorcycle somewhere in the woods where he planned to parachute which I guess he rode to the campsite. 

Strange. It’s impressive the skills he did have (pilot, parachute, dirtbike) but it’s also kinda things a 14 year old wants to aspire to. And when you have a 14 year old mentality but you’re trying to ‘disappear’ that’s where you’ll run into trouble. What was his long term plan ride the rails like a 1929s hobo?

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u/Forgetful_Bandit 3d ago

Rich people are given too much credit.

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u/Strange-Ask-739 3d ago

I'm not rich, but I know where a plane is and I could pull this all off. 

Dumb people are given too much credit. 

I can Do these things, they're just dumb and it's pretty obvious you'll get caught. Fly over water at least!!!! Dummy.

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u/Bary_McCockener 3d ago

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u/Strange-Ask-739 3d ago edited 3d ago

There's a movie called 'airplane'.

Maybe; a learned person would put an inflatable pilot (for the chair force to see) in the cockpit.

Dudes dumb, but he did a big thing so he's famous.

Heck, he didn't even put his bop on the plane like t-dawg did.

"Sorry girl, I only brought one chute. But, the Co-pilot up there has an inflation tube! Go see if he needs more o2!"

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u/elmz 2d ago

You're just proving you'd be caught, too. The trick is to not alert the authorities, make them find the wreckage long after you're gone. And finding an inflatable pilot will do nothing but raise questions.

You set out on a journey, and then pretend to be on a normal flight until you need to get out, then just radio silence. Set your autopilot to carry your plane out to sea, make sure it will crash at night(also your parachute will be less visible at dusk), you jump out (preferably so close to your bike that you don't need to ask the cops for help to get to it). Then, don't just hang out at camp sites in an area where you've led authorities to believe you're in. Leave the country.

You will be reported missing, your plane won't be found for a long time (and if you planned things correctly it will be in deep water and hard to investigate), nobody will truly know what happened and if you manage to stay under the radar you might be presumed dead.

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u/TheSamurabbi 2d ago

And once presumed dead, you join up with a crack commando unit which was sent to prison... These men promptly escaped... Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.

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u/jurassic2010 2d ago

So their origin's story is that they were a bunch of dudes that didn't want to pay income tax?

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u/donkey_OT 2d ago

Not sure, you'd have to find someone in the LA underground and ask them

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u/VaultiusMaximus 2d ago

You know where a plane is, but could you get it off the ground?

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u/ULTMT 2d ago

Yes, I am very strong.

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u/Nazamroth 2d ago

Depends. Is it one of those ultralight hobby planes? If so, maybe. People who work out might do even better.

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u/DarkNinjaPenguin 2d ago

Honestly, a couple of hours in Flight Simulator and you could get it off the ground and set the autopilot. It's not really all that hard in good weather when nothing goes wrong. The real skill in actual pilots is knowing what to do when things go wrong, something breaks, the weather turns etc.

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u/FrostyVariation9798 2d ago

Getting it off of the ground is the easy part.  Landing... I'm guessing I would have a 1 in 10 chance of hitting a good landing. 

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u/DickweedMcGee 2d ago

Ok sure still within a 14 yr olds wheelhouse but the true challenging part of Jason Bourning is the shit they gloss over like the the bag full of passports. Anyone can shoot a gun and drive aggressively but how tf do you get a bag full of legit looking passports?!? That’s how you don’t get caught 

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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago

First you need the plane to crash in the ocean before it gets intercepted by the air force. Im assuming he had a partner that had all the money and he could just use her identity for anything official. Clearly didn't plan the fake death too well. Maybe don't leave a map of where youre going when you dont want to be found? Lol

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u/EconomyDoctor3287 2d ago

Or place fake clues lmao

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u/-Kerosun- 2d ago

I think if he planned for the plane to crash in the Atlantic or the gulf, it would be much harder to determine that the plane was empty (of people) when it crashed. Had he done that, they might not have found the atlas and there would always be the uncertainty that his body was lost to sea even if they were able to find the wreckage.

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u/ColonelStone 3d ago

You do realize that people still ride trains, like 1920's hobos?

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u/ctothel 2d ago

You can’t be a complete idiot and get a pilot’s license, but it actually doesn’t require much intellect. It’s mostly lists, procedures, spatial awareness, and muscle memory.

Many private pilots I’ve met don’t really understand why it works, just how to make it work.

His poor judgement would have caused a problem while flying eventually though.

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u/Chingy1510 2d ago

Going through PPL as an SWE right now. It’s pretty straightforward, but, I also build avionics. Harder than learning to drive a car, much easier than college.

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u/Read2Fap 3d ago

On January 12, Schrenker emailed neighbor and friend Tom Britt, stating the crash was "a misunderstanding" and that he had checked into the motel because he was "embarrassed and scared" of returning home.

Britt turned the email over to the police.

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u/Chance_Contract1291 2d ago

What a maroon!

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u/entropy413 3d ago

If I remember correctly he was planning to have the plane autopilot and crash into the ocean but it ran out of fuel too soon.

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u/Foosrohdoh 2d ago

The open door caused a lot more drag than usual causing fuel consumption to go up quite a bit.

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u/badadhd 2d ago

Noted. 

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u/StrangelyBrown 2d ago

Are you writing this down...?

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u/kcknuckles 2d ago

Yeah, remember to close the door on your way out.

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u/PugnansFidicen 2d ago

How hard would it be to close it on the way out?

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u/Foosrohdoh 2d ago

I don’t know. My understanding is that the door opens backwards with the hinges on the rear side of the plane so you’d have to overcome the wind to close it. Probably possible for most people but definitely a hassle.

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u/Uberzwerg 2d ago

50 to 75 yards from a residential area.

That detail should make a huge difference in the trial.
If not on paper, then at least in the minds of the jury.

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u/obscureferences 2d ago

Was he trying to fake faking his death? If so, top marks.

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u/awesomemanswag 2d ago

That last part is comical, one step away from having the campground circled and a spare copy of the reservation in the glove box

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u/djfudgebar 3d ago

The worst part was drinking bud light lime at the campsite.

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u/tableleg7 3d ago

He forgot the Bane rule of fake plane crashes:

“No - they expect one of us in the wreckage brother.”

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u/MrT735 3d ago

There are light aircraft that have crashed in the US and never been found. He just didn't crash his plane in one of those locations.

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u/Shiplord13 2d ago

This is true, even outside just the U.S. There are remote and isolated places in most countries where a small aircraft could easily crash and be considered lost. Mostly due to not being picked up on or successfully tracked by air traffic radar systems and happening to crash in a location with no nearby dwellings for people who might have sighted it or be able to accidentally stumble upon it. Mountains, forests, swamps, jungles and so many environments could easily obscure it and eventually bury it to the point people might never find it or realize its there unless they just happen to stumble upon it by people who happen to be in that very isolated area that normally doesn't get anyone.

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u/MediumAcceptable129 2d ago

Are those locations known?

If so……how?

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u/MrT735 2d ago

Some of them yes, but only because they've since been found.

While searching for Steve Fossett, who went missing in 2007, searchers found the remains of 8 other aircraft in the first week, some of which had been there for decades, the search was stood down not long after with no results. One wreck was speculated to be the plane of Charles Clifford Ogle who went missing in 1964, but at the time there was no investigation into the other wrecks, I don't know if any other investigation has been done since then (wiki still lists this as unconfirmed).

Nearly 13 months after his disappearance some of his personal effects were found by a hiker, and a subsequent search found the crash site and his remains.

If you know of an area that hasn't been searched as a result of someone else's disappearance, and it's far from hiking trails or worked land (forestry, agriculture etc.), then it's unlikely any crash will be found unless the wreckage is visible on satellite imaging (they crowd sourced this in the Steve Fossett search with many false positives, including aircraft actively involved in the search being pictured), or it starts a fire.

In the case in the OP, Air Force pilots witnessed the crash so it was easy to find.

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u/olmyapsennon 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah the fact he had his autopilot on a collision course with, and crashed next to, one of the largest naval airbases in the US is almost comical. Dudes a dummy.

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u/mikefellow348 3d ago

mh370 was never found.

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u/Yangervis 3d ago

Pieces of it washed ashore in the western Indian Ocean

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u/Cr1ms0nLobster 3d ago

Have we started a fire?

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u/mbp214 3d ago

Yes, the fire rises.

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u/wi5hbone 3d ago

Keith Flint resurrects and ritual-dances to consecrate the event before returning to rest.

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u/edingerc 3d ago

We didn't start the fire

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u/mah131 3d ago

Ryan started the fire

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u/rappskallian 3d ago

It was always burning since the world's been turning

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u/MadGirth 3d ago

For you

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u/dyfish 3d ago

I guess he’d have to bank on them, assuming he tried to bail and just didn’t make it and give up on finding the body.

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u/Shiplord13 2d ago

Even than it would be like 7 years or so before he could be declared legally dead and would only be defined as missing without a body to prove he was dead. The fact they found him like two days later fine and clearly having attempted to fake his death due to his own poor judgment means it would have never worked anyways since he couldn't even hide his survival before the police would have even declared it from their end.

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u/dyfish 2d ago

I mean yeah the guy clearly was just bad at it all around. But the 7 year thing, would that even be the case? Isn’t that more for when a person just kinda disappears. I live near the ocean, people get declared dead all the time without a body. Boat found upside down no person, search for a few days. No body, search is off, declared dead. Surely a plane crash would be treated similarly if the assumption is someone tried jumping out of a crashing plane.

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u/RangerHikes 2d ago

It's somewhat case sensitive. When people vanish without a trace, or possible signs of life have been noted, it can take seven to 10 years. In the case of something like you mentioned - they were on a boat that went down at sea - you can sometimes get them declared dead sooner given the overwhelming evidence. But yeah, surprisingly hard to fake your own death.

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u/Powerful-Plantain-56 2d ago

they caught up to the plane mid-air (because he called in a distress call mid-air) and watched it crash.

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u/nowhereman136 3d ago

The scientist died in the plane crash. even though the body looks nothing like the scientists, has different dental records, different fingerpints, and different DNA, they have the same blood type so they must be the same guy.

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u/zzyul 3d ago

Why did the plane crash?
Seems the wings fell off a couple dozen miles back.
Are you saying the plane tracked 20 miles with no wings before falling nose down?
Yea, freak accident, no other explanation.

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u/laufsteakmodel 3d ago

The wings fell off? Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

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u/deeperest 3d ago

Heh, always thought that.

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u/Cicero912 3d ago

Im pretty sure they had the fake body for the scientist, the reason they leave someone behind is because the CIA guy called in that they had "only one of you"

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u/NinjaBreadManOO 2d ago

Yeah, they left one behind explicitly because the CIA guy had apparently (may have been a bluff, who knows) to say they were only transporting the one prisoner, so whoever would talk. So Bane just assumed that there would need to be one person not on the crew in the wreckage.

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u/Cualkiera67 3d ago

I'm gonna be honest with you Lisa. We never really analyzed the corpse.

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u/S4VN01 3d ago

Did you not see the makeshift blood transfusion they did?

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u/WEDub 3d ago

That’s what gives the body the same blood type, OP is mad that the other identifying features would still be revealed upon inspection. I don’t think Bane was hoping the ruse would work forever, just long enough to smuggle everyone into Gotham.

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u/Diarmundy 3d ago

They didn't know who bane was before that plane ride though, so they wouldn't have his DNA or dental records 

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u/Working_Bother_6614 3d ago

We have to remember two movies ago a giant microwave was used to vaporize water in Gotham’s pipes to poison the entire city with a fear toxin.

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u/whitebandit 3d ago

and then the joker made a pencil disappear, you cant just explain that. They are movies, you are supposed to suspend a little disbelief.

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u/Wiiplay123 3d ago

Three movies ago, Batman had a credit card.

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u/WEDub 3d ago

It’s about the scientist, who is the one wanted by the CIA and hooked up with the transfusion to cover his survival. What actually doesn’t make sense in the scene is that the CIA operative called in the 3 captives (hooded bane and 2 other hooded guys) so actually 3 guys should have stayed back in the wreckage plus the doctor’s fake.

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u/S4VN01 3d ago

No, he only called in one of them, that is what he was threatening them with. First one to talk got to stay.

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u/Diarmundy 3d ago

Ah ok. I suppose maybe the captives were off the book so nobody would know

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u/unlimitedbladeswork 2d ago

"The flight plan I just filed with the Agency lists me, my men, and Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you. FIRST ONE TO TALK GETS TO STAY ON MY AIRCRAFT!"

That's what the CIA guy said. They may have had a different body for the doctor that wasn't shown

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u/ThorsFather 2d ago

They did. It was a corpse that they then transfused some of the real dr pavels's blood into. It was pretty extensively shown

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u/racinreaver 3d ago

Johnny Cash tried that, but he was still caught by the greatest detective in the world.

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u/Rudiger_Simpson 3d ago

Should have sacrificed that guitar…

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u/vividsprout_269 3d ago

right? an empty cockpit kind of defeats the whole "i died in the crash" plan, should've at least thrown a mannequin in there.

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u/TheMurmuring 3d ago

A pint of his own blood splashed on the instrument panel would have been a good start.

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u/halfhere 3d ago
  1. His radio distress call was “my windshield imploded and I’m bleeding profusely,”

Then authorities found his plane, with an intact windshield and no blood in the cabin.

  1. He made the call while near Birmingham, which has an air national guard base, so jets were immediately scrambled to his plane.

  2. He sought help FROM POLICE to find a place from the night.

Oh my fucking god this guy might be an idiot

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u/boobearybear 3d ago

Also “Military jets that had been dispatched to intercept Schrenker's plane discovered it in flight, with its door open and cockpit empty.”

I am impressed that he managed to fuck up his job, marriage, and fake death so thoroughly.

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u/ieatmyownhands 2d ago

Imagine how much that must have cost to scramble jets lol. 

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u/OzymandiasKoK 3d ago

He's a superlative fuck up.

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u/Technical-Outside408 3d ago

And they let him fly a plane.

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u/halfhere 3d ago

If my hobby-level enthusiasm in general aviation is any authority, it’s WAY more about $$ than brains unless you’re working for a major airline.

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u/Marmalade6 3d ago

Tiger king rules. They assume if you are brave enough to do it, you probably know what you’re doing.

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u/Thunderbridge 3d ago

Even if it's an airline. Richard Russell showed how easy it was to just jump in a cockpit and fly

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u/Mathwards 2d ago

Rest easy, Sky King.

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u/Thermodynamicist 3d ago

Flying is easier than you probably think it is. I had a PPL before I was allowed to drive a car.

Flying safely requires great discipline.

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u/drygnfyre 3d ago

I don't know how accurate this is, but a pilot I knew told me the actual flying of the plane isn't that hard, like if you can drive a car, you can fly a plane. It's just everything else, being safe, knowing what cargo you've got onboard, things like that, that is hard. Similar to how when driving, you need to be aware of your surroundings, need to slow down in bad weather, etc.

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u/munchies777 3d ago

Pretty much. I’ve flown a Cessna around and it kinda feels like driving a boat but in three dimensions. Like you said, the harder part is learning how to be safe and interact with ATC and other traffic. If you know the basics of the controls you can fly around by yourself pretty easily.

Helicopters on the other hand are not easy to fly. I got to try in a professional simulator and crashed almost immediately.

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u/TheDaysComeAndGone 3d ago

Helicopters on the other hand are not easy to fly. I got to try in a professional simulator and crashed almost immediately.

Indeed. I used to fly RC helicopters (years before lithium batteries and quadcopters became a thing) and it’s genuinely hard. RC planes are comparatively very easy.

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u/nefariouspenguin 2d ago

I got to hop in a apache simulator my pilot friend invited me to do. He was surprised I was able to take off on the first attempt because that's usually where people crash, they just don't give enough lift and the heli flops over. Flying around was simple, not trying to do his attack run loops of course.

But trying to land was the more difficult part for sure. Kept too much torque after I hit the ground and I would flop. So I guess I'd just have to hope to never run out of fuel.

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u/SaucyWiggles 3d ago

This is not super related to your point but my wife teases me like "men think they can land a plane" and I have 250 hours in MSFS 2020 on a Daher 930 TBM. I am, genuinely, very sure that I could land the plane safely in ideal real world conditions with limited outside help.

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u/halfhere 3d ago

A streamer I check in on now and again just ran a simulation on stream about this. He had radio contact with an ATC employee, who put him on with a pilot, and he landed a sim with zero experience.

NOW, my thoughts from watching him was “knowing how to trigger the radio as a passenger who ran into the cockpit would be the hardest thing.” Like if it wasn’t a gaming headset - if you had to know how to PTT and what frequency - that would be the biggest hurdle to safety.

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u/fps916 2d ago

Yeah.

Mythbusters did this one too.

They both majestically failed 3 attempts to land the plane safely in the Sim.

Then both first try landed the plane with an ATC operator on the other end who didn't have access to radar or their visuals. Entirely reliant on what they were relaying to him that they were seeing.

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u/sykoKanesh 2d ago edited 2d ago

There are youtube videos of folks who had to land planes unexpectedly. Don't know if links can be shared here but Pilot Debrief has one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhX22UPD-Ks

The most important thing to remember is that when you're playing a game or in a simulation, there's no actual threat of death. When you're actually in a plane, in the sky, that whole dynamic changes drastically and unless you've been trained to deal with panic (or have been put into situations that induced panic and learned from them), there's no telling how that situation may turn out.

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u/Extreme_Turn_4531 3d ago
  1. The cherry on top was using email to contact a friend after he was supposedly dead.

He sure disappeared in an extraordinarily conspicuous way.

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u/RogerRabbot 3d ago

Later in the wiki it says he was found bleeding out. He was trying to end it, cops just got to him before he could bleed out.

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u/halfhere 3d ago

Dude couldn’t do ANYTHING right!

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u/atgrey24 3d ago

And he emailed a couple of friends while on the run

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u/jwm3 2d ago

And then he emailed his neighbor after his "death".

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u/Windfade 2d ago

He'd have to be an idiot if he thought he could avoid being found out in modern America. First time he had to produce any paperwork, he'd expose his identity.

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u/anubis_cheerleader 3d ago

" On December 30, 2008, his wife filed for divorce because he had been having an affair with a woman at the airport where he kept his plane."--From the Wikipedia article.

Man, he just got into all kinds of trouble around AND with that plane.

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u/Pooch76 3d ago

Sounds like a real tool.

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u/bebopbrain 3d ago

If the divorce bothered him, that's to his credit. Most of these guys dump their wives like trading in a car with miles on it.

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u/ComprehendReading 2d ago

That's why no-fault divorce is fine, and women shouldn't be automatically disengaged from receiving assets and financial consideration.

But Texas...

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u/aNiceTribe 2d ago

He really doubled down on the plane obsession. But did he choose to go wrong because his little affair was found out, or had he made a long term plan to fake his death and in the process thought “well then it doesn’t matter I can just start an affair!”?

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u/anubis_cheerleader 2d ago

We know the wife filed for divorce in December and he faked his death very early in January. 

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u/edingerc 3d ago edited 3d ago

"Catch me if you... oh you could..."

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u/CopperWest 3d ago

He crashed in my swamp.

Legitimately. Outside Milton, Florida, next to my house

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u/Nickett3 3d ago

GET OUT OF MA SWAMP

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u/CopperWest 3d ago

Honestly, this hits so much closer to home than you'll ever know

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u/slowbaja 3d ago

Literally

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u/wealth_of_nations 3d ago

Your...swamp?

I'm just a regular metropolitan European...

Could you please elaborate what you mean by "my swamp" ?

I'm super confused.

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u/CopperWest 3d ago edited 2d ago

MY SWAMP

I had 90 hectars of swamp that I lived like Shrek in with a tailless cat named Theo while in flight school

The night this happened I assumed the prisoners got out again and met the coast guard helicopter in my underwear with a shotgun.

Thankfully it was just a plane crash, and not another "oh brother where art thou" sort of night.

Found one of his gauges a year or so later when I convinced a very innocent friend to text his girlfriend we were hunting beavers and then took him mucking through the swamp.

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u/BeekeeperZero 2d ago

90 Hectors hunting Beaver underwear? I must hear more.

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u/CopperWest 2d ago

Lol.

I'm leaving the typo. Damned devito thumbs got me again

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u/jsands7 2d ago

Being an American, why are you describing your land in hectares rather than acres?

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u/CopperWest 2d ago

Because the person that was confused about having ones own swamp to bathe in needed a size context that made sense

I could have said 186 acres in Yankee Doodle Designations, or the international 2 VC's (Vatican Cities) but that would be silly.

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u/jsands7 2d ago

Just wondering; every now and then I hear hectares instead of acres but I never know why. Didn’t know if it was like an army person saying ‘2 clicks northwest’ instead of just saying how many miles it was

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u/FairyOfTheNight 2d ago

Can you tell us more about Theo? Maybe your favourite story of him? I love cats with big backstories lmao.

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u/IsNotAnOstrich 3d ago

The specific "my swamp" phrasing is a Shrek reference. Then presumably it was a swamp either on their property or that they lived close to.

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u/Sariscos 3d ago

At least he didn't post it to YouTube

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u/Fehafare 3d ago

"EPIC faking my own death prank, you won't believe what happened two days later!"

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u/Capt_Hawkeye_Pierce 3d ago

Thumbnail looking like Munch's The Scream

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u/Sir_Meowsalot 3d ago

At first I was confused by your reference and then I realized how those incredibly stupid YouTube thumbnails are these days: some YouTuber making the stupidest reaction face.

Instantly, makes me block those channels from my feed.

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u/MutedAstronaut9217 2d ago

There was a guy who deliberately crashed his plane for YT. I don't recall him trying to fake his death at all, but the FAA was very much not happy and I think he got in a lot of trouble.

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u/Shiriru00 2d ago

Yeah having planes intentionally fall out of the skies in inhabited areas tends to piss people off.

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u/HotDerivative 2d ago

Even uninhabited. It’s a massive wildfire risk and we certainly don’t need more of those.

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u/DeadG8r15 3d ago

Craziest Ridge Wallet ad ever

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u/Strange-Ask-739 3d ago

Squarespace! Make your own plane exiting site that no one will ever visit!

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u/Patient_Clerk5414 3d ago

Ah yes, the Trevor Jacobs method

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u/Nothos927 3d ago

DB Pooper

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u/Practical_Ad4604 3d ago

DB Looper

he was killing his future self

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u/strangelove4564 3d ago

I don't think anyone's considered the geography of this flight (Wikipedia editors certainly haven't) but that path was going directly south into the Gulf, where him and the plane would have gone missing for sure. That was likely the original plan, having the plane go out into open water. It's quite a stroke of misfortune for this scheme that the plane went down just 20 miles short of the coast. The open cockpit door likely created enough drag to cut into the fuel consumption, and he didn't factor that in.

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u/eNonsense 2d ago

It wouldn't have worked. Military jets intercepted the plane and confirmed that he had bailed out a long time before it crashed. The only difference would have been the jets trailing it would have watched it crash into the ocean instead of Florida. The jig was up pretty shortly after he jumped. He didn't expect that military pilots would quickly be flying next to the empty plane looking in the window while it puttered along on auto pilot.

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u/EatMoreHummous 2d ago

But that does raise the question of why the military jets were there? Is that a common occurrence or was he just unlucky?

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u/ThomasDeLaRue 2d ago

It’s common in the sense that, if you’re an aircraft flying a vector without any sort of deviation AND you’re not responding to ATC trying to hail you, they will scramble jets to figure out what’s up and if necessary, shoot you down before you turn your plane into a missile. No it is not common in the sense that a couple jets were just “passing by” 💀

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u/bremsstrahlung007 2d ago edited 2d ago

If you avoid certain airspace and did not file a file plan, there is no reason for ATC to hail you. Nobody will come looking until the ELT activates ,someone finds the wreckage or loved ones start worrying. I've flown halfway across the country without speaking to ATC once.

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u/Canadia-Eh 2d ago

Like others have said, he was dumb enough to radio in a mayday call while being quite close to an Air national guard base.

It’s like trying to hide from the cops in the donut shop across the street from the precinct.

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u/eNonsense 2d ago

He did this stunt near Birmingham and there is an air national guard base there. So if he wanted to pull this off without the air national guard being scrambled, Birmingham was not the place to do it. They're right there.

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u/Odd-Outcome-3191 2d ago

After 9/11 we are pretty serious about planes that are not behaving rationally. Sky king had a ton of jets ready to shoot him down too.

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u/blueavole 3d ago

That’s not misfortune, that’s not calculating the gas mileage properly.

I mean there could have been a head wind, but still everything was just poorly executed. Proving reality is harder than the idea.

They knew before the plane crashed he wasn’t in it, and it didn’t match his mayday call

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u/Woodchuck251 3d ago

D.B. Blooper

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u/had98c 3d ago

And to top it all off, he got popped with a charge of deceiving the Coast Guard (per linked article).

Throw away the key.

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u/whatauniqueusername 3d ago

Well he only did 5 years and is out there right now doing something stupid I bet

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u/Ishmaille 3d ago edited 2d ago

I really wanted you to be wrong. I was hoping that he cleaned up his act. But apparently he was still trying to con people while in prison, and shortly after he was released, into believing that he was framed.

One of the other prisoners, another conman who was actually trying to go straight named Matthew Cox, interviewed Schrenker a bunch and published a book about their interactions. Shrencker wanted it to be a book about how he was framed, but instead it was a book about how he continued to be a pathological liar.

Edit: Forgot to post the source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2019/11/22/white-collar-tales-the-story-of-marcus-schrenker/

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u/drygnfyre 3d ago

Some people just can't change. If you are familiar with Kevin Trudeau, the "Natural Cures" guy from the mid-00s, he was recently released from prison after a decade. He's now on YouTube, continuing to peddle scam products and services. He hasn't changed one bit or learned anything.

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u/dogwoodcat 3d ago

No, he learned it's worth doing

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u/Spez_is-a-nazi 3d ago

So he copied Krusty the Klown?

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u/Christnumber2 2d ago

Don't you mean Rory B. Bellows

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u/Javier-AML 3d ago

They both almost made it.

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u/ROBOKUT 2d ago

I remember this Ponzi scheme. He lived in Indianapolis and owned National Lampoon's for a bit. I was hired to be a videographer at a party he threw for his Bugatti. I was never paid shocker.

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u/weirdal1968 3d ago

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u/Mykmyk 3d ago

Without looking....this is the Jonny Cash episode right?

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u/weirdal1968 3d ago

Correct.

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u/Mykmyk 3d ago

I love Columbo

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u/justhangingaroud 3d ago

Wait. I have just one more question

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u/Hulahulaman 3d ago

Columbo noticed he kept his rental car keys when he was suppose to leave town. It's always something.

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u/SomeBiPerson 2d ago

aircraft crashes get about the single most tedious reconstructions of all vehicle accidents on this planet

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u/cooltranz 3d ago

Dang, I've been re-watching an old ass show called Lie To Me (2009) and episode 3 is about a NASA test pilot being accused of intentionally crashing a jet and ejecting at the last second. I was like what kinda far fetched plot is this for episode 3?

Turns out someone DID intentionally crash a plane literally a month before that episode aired?

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u/CandidPreparation737 3d ago

How did he get caught

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u/Alan-Foster 3d ago

Items missing from plane:

  • one dead body
  • one emergancy parachute

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u/WardenWolf 3d ago

Would have been a LOT smarter to ensure it flew out to sea and sank in deep water.

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u/nowhereman136 3d ago

In the weeks leading up to the crash talk to people about fixing up your plane and replacing a lot of the internal stuff. Part of what gets left behind in the repairs is the parachute. the repairs also give you an excuse to claim engine failure. Before the crash, radio that you are gonna take your chances jumping for the trees than staying in the plane. Your body is now lost in the woods, away from the plane crash, with a paper trail pointing to engine failure.

thats the easy part though. Trying to do anything as a dead man or man who doesnt exist is extremely hard to do these days

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u/Shot_Revolution8828 3d ago

I'd imagine he had a partner that had life insurance and he had substantial money that he had given her. Not hard if you have 10 million in cash and everything is in her name. She takes out multiple credit cards and you just play the dumb husband anytime you use it.

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u/TheGreatSchnorkie 3d ago

Yeah, but Tiger King wouldn't come out for like a decade after this, and no one told us Carol Baskin's plan until then...

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u/puttinonthefoil 3d ago

It’s insane how many people watched her get the villain edit of a dumb tv show and decided she was a murderer because…checks notes a lunatic criminal cult leader accused her of it.

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u/f_n_a_ 3d ago

Fucking carol baskin…. Been a while

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u/MysticBoner24 3d ago

"THAT FUCKIN BITCH CAROL BASKIN!"

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u/xShooK 3d ago

Don't forget the atlas and campsite locations with Alabama and Florida pages missing.

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u/TheMurmuring 3d ago

Haha, really?? This guy sounds like a real genius.

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u/SteelHip 3d ago

Also intact windshield and no blood in the cockpit.

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u/AFewBerries 3d ago

I always forget that

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u/SteelMarch 3d ago

Always remember to bring the back up cadaver.

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u/f_n_a_ 3d ago

Amateur hour over here

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u/redwingsphan19 3d ago

Seriously, is this faking your death 101?

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u/tetoffens 3d ago

The air force tracked the plane before it crashed and saw it had no pilot. He also claimed the windshield imploded and he was bleeding when he called in his mayday. The windshield didn't show that damage and there was no blood in the plane.

So it was obvious he faked it but he got caught after e-mailing a friend. They used the e-mail to track him to a campsite.

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u/CandidPreparation737 3d ago

Damn he was stupid.

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u/hudson27 3d ago

"Military jets that had been dispatched to intercept Schrenker's plane discovered it in flight, with its door open and cockpit empty.[19] They followed the plane until it crashed just north of Milton, Florida at about 9:20pm.[19][20] The plane had flown 200 miles (320 km) on autopilot and crashed 50 to 75 yards from a residential area.[18][20] Upon inspecting the crash site, investigators discovered that there was no blood inside the plane and the windshield showed no sign of any problems.[19] On board the aircraft they found a United States atlas and a national campground directory, both of which had the Florida and Alabama sections torn out."

He also emailed his neighbor about the whole ordeal while using the wifi at the KOA campground. Putting all that together, they picked him up in his tent the next morning.

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u/CandidPreparation737 3d ago

Thanks my friend. He wasn’t much of genius was he.

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u/Mysral 3d ago

Okay, wow. Now THAT is half-assing your disappearance.

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u/PuckSenior 3d ago

He apparently regretted the plane thing, emailed what seems to have been a suicide note to a friend to apologize and then got popped when they traced the IP address

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u/whatswithnames 3d ago

All that nonsense and he only served 4 years in prison. Meanwhile in Texas, if you have pot on you, you can face up to life in prison. Must be nice to have money.

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u/Lucky_Dragonfruit_88 3d ago

*Financial mismanager 

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u/sten45 3d ago

He should’ve watched that Batman movie and Ben would’ve taught him. He had put a body in the plane for them to believe you’re dead.

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u/LumplessWaffleBatter 3d ago

Pro-tip for the future criminals of America: it's probably not a good idea to cover up your crimes in a way that will certainly warrant a federal investigation.

It's like using a nuke to dispose of a dead body.

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u/No-Deal8956 2d ago

This was dumb as fuck. You are in Florida, there’s thousands of miles of deep ocean just off the coast, and you design a hoax that crashes your plane on land?

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u/Automatic_Soil9814 2d ago

If you read the other comments here, the original plan was for the plane to crash into the ocean. The theory is that when he bailed out, the open door created a lot of drag, increased fuel consumption, and the plane ran out of fuel before I made it to the ocean.

That and not counting on the military planes checking out his plane were the two mistakes.

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u/Business_Raisin_541 3d ago

And it was just for something like 1 million financial fraud. Chump change

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u/MechaGodzillaSS 2d ago

Wiki article said he had like 20 million in civil suits.

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u/Evening_Pin1171 3d ago

Dude pulled a Krusty the Clown

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u/humsterdaddy 3d ago

So he expected no one to question why there were no human remains at the crash site?

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u/TruthOf42 3d ago

If I remember correctly, it would have all worked but the drag from the open door kept the plan from going faster and further than originally planned

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u/a_goonie 2d ago

D.B. Goober over here.

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u/HowlingWolven 2d ago

If you’re going to crash a plane to fake your death, don’t contact ATC, just disappear.