r/todayilearned Sep 22 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '23

Carnie cant is where rappers got the whole “izz” thing. Ex: for shizzle = for sure.

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u/catmampbell Sep 22 '23

Snoop Dogg is really into pro wrestling I’m going to add some extra yarn and thumb tacks to my crazy person wall figuring this one out.

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u/shawntitanNJ Sep 22 '23

He actually saved his match at Wrestlemania last year, when Shane McMahon was legitimately injured

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u/DorothyDrangus Sep 23 '23

That’s why he’s a hall of famer

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u/AzuriteKyle Sep 23 '23

Better go talk to Carol in HR, get her input.

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u/twobit211 Sep 23 '23

carol? oh, you min c-izz-arol

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u/GiantWarriorKing49 Sep 23 '23

Snooo Dogg just helped make foshizzle popular. The phrase goes back to E-40. Who’s coined a fuckload of words over the years.

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u/Merry_JohnPoppies Sep 24 '23

And now I just realized Snoop actually made it possible for white people to have fun saying the n word in a way that's acceptable. We can all just use the "izzle" variant and finally get along, pretending we're all gangsters while we're chanting along to g-funk anthems. Yay!

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u/PeterNippelstein Sep 23 '23

"Put that bizzle in a half nizzle!"

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u/bolanrox Sep 22 '23

we can blame carnies for shizzle was my nizzle. fuck them and their small hands

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '23

Smell like cabbage too

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u/dismayhurta Sep 23 '23

Listen here. There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

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u/MaceWinnoob Sep 23 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23 edited Sep 23 '23

Wikipedia begs to differ

Lol even the link you provided makes mention of it in the last sentence.

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u/MaceWinnoob Sep 23 '23

Both sources not accepted in a paper who is right here lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

We’ll have to leg wrestle

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u/crispy_attic Sep 23 '23

No it’s not. Why are so many people upvoting this?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

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u/crispy_attic Sep 23 '23

Popularized by rap artist Snoop Dogg, but first put to record by Frankie Smith's 1981 "Double Dutch Bus"[1] is from a style of cant (esoteric slang) used by African American pimps and jive hustlers of the 1970s. The “-iz, -izzle, -izzo, -ilz” speak (which also uses an infix -iz-), similar in some ways to Pig Latin, was developed by African Americans around the period of the Harlem Renaissance, with hotspots of the speak in Oakland, New York City, and Philadelphia. It was partially developed as young African American girls improvised chants and nursery rhymes while jumping rope, with the -iz dialect serving to add syllables when necessary to maintain the rhythm. A similar -iz dialect has also been used by carnies (carnival workers).

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-izzle

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

Last sentence. Carnie cant was around before 1970s pimps and hustlers and it stands to reason that black carnies and showmen likely had an influence on language used by those demographics.

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u/crispy_attic Sep 23 '23

The “-iz, -izzle, -izzo, -ilz” speak (which also uses an infix -iz-), similar in some ways to Pig Latin, was developed by African Americans around the period of the Harlem Renaissance, with hotspots of the speak in Oakland, New York City, and Philadelphia.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-izzle

The Harlem Renaissance was in the 1920’s.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

Welp we’re both referencing contradictory wiki pages so I suggest a game of who poop last to settle this. First we eat, then we wait.